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Since more than one of you have directed comments specifically at me, I'll address them all

I came here last night to read up on some NFL playoffs. I got home from work after dealing with the single biggest piece of shit who happens to be a semi reg at my room. A GR 1 fuckhead.

Then I come here and read I'm a "tout" and a "douchebag". That's before I said a single word. So I go from being annoyed from the shithead at my job, to a couple guys throwing words my way. Its almost 4am.

Do you guys know what a "tout" is?? It isn't simply someone offering a picks service. This is the definition.............."attempt to sell (something), typically by pestering people in an aggressive or bold manner."

@Bruins4Life have I ever pestered you in an aggressive or bold manner?? No I haven't.

@MagiCap I'm not pushing anything. I'm stating facts to people claiming I lose.

I have been on this Forum for 12+ years. I have contributed as much positive and quality picks and analysis as anybody. There are several others that have and many still post today. @G-Man! is very good.

This forum has been overrun by people that just want to run their mouth. The comments directed at me in this thread is just another example. I don't need to come here and be called a douchebag. It doesn't hurt my feelings at all, its just shows me the type of people that dominate this forum.

I started a Telegram Channel because it allowed me to control who exactly was in my chat room. It was open to the public until people started acting like they do here, so I charged a small fee.

Most people stayed and paid the small fee. You think I'm getting rich off of this?? Its to keep out the idiots, which my channel appreciates since they don't care for the nonsense either.

Miikey joined my service several years ago. I only know him through a few phone calls and texting. It is his main source of income, and I'll never tell a man how to make his money..............and the same should go for all of you. I have zero beef with him. We text occasionally and offer opinions on games.

Its really simple. If you don't want to subscribe to a service, then don't. But many of you want to flap your jaws and talk your shit.

There are financial advisors that lose people money. Should we shut down that line of business?? Are those people douchebags too??

This is what people who actually know me, and are on my channel say:

Honest, transparent, good guy. Can be a bit high strung. Works hard.

I'll take that over any insults people here, that don't know me, want to throw my way.

Go on Twitter if you want to see what a tout looks like. 10U bangers, live bets, every fucking emoji plastered all over their posts. Its a cesspool of scumbags and blowhards.

If my entire channel went away it wouldn't change my life at all.

Take away the discords and all the other avenues that pick sellers have, and it would impact them IMMENSELY.

Most are nothing but full time marketers. Very few keep an up to date record. Many charge 10X what I do. Gambling Twitter is the most nauseating place on earth.

I still come here and post, because its what I love to do. Handicap sports. I'm pretty good. Many here are really good people, some are absolute disgraces and shitheads.

yes @Loves2kickass most touts don't bet their own plays, they make too much money selling. I bet every play I put out, and if I didn't bet my NFL I would be a special kind of stupid.

@Bruins4Life I have no beef with you. You caught me in a foul mood and I responded.

@phdinsports scumbag douche?? You're out of line with that

Enjoy the games, hope you guys win some money
Hey I did correct myself with the very next post saying "I jumped the gun a little," 'cause I don't know how much per unit B4L was betting! If he's a nickel or dime player than no biggie, everyone goes through slumps. But if he only bets 100 per unit and you losing 60 units in a couple of months, well then that changes things don't ya think?
 
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Since more than one of you have directed comments specifically at me, I'll address them all

I came here last night to read up on some NFL playoffs. I got home from work after dealing with the single biggest piece of shit who happens to be a semi reg at my room. A GR 1 fuckhead.

Then I come here and read I'm a "tout" and a "douchebag". That's before I said a single word. So I go from being annoyed from the shithead at my job, to a couple guys throwing words my way. Its almost 4am.

Do you guys know what a "tout" is?? It isn't simply someone offering a picks service. This is the definition.............."attempt to sell (something), typically by pestering people in an aggressive or bold manner."

@Bruins4Life have I ever pestered you in an aggressive or bold manner?? No I haven't.

@MagiCap I'm not pushing anything. I'm stating facts to people claiming I lose.

I have been on this Forum for 12+ years. I have contributed as much positive and quality picks and analysis as anybody. There are several others that have and many still post today. @G-Man! is very good.

This forum has been overrun by people that just want to run their mouth. The comments directed at me in this thread is just another example. I don't need to come here and be called a douchebag. It doesn't hurt my feelings at all, its just shows me the type of people that dominate this forum.

I started a Telegram Channel because it allowed me to control who exactly was in my chat room. It was open to the public until people started acting like they do here, so I charged a small fee.

Most people stayed and paid the small fee. You think I'm getting rich off of this?? Its to keep out the idiots, which my channel appreciates since they don't care for the nonsense either.

Miikey joined my service several years ago. I only know him through a few phone calls and texting. It is his main source of income, and I'll never tell a man how to make his money..............and the same should go for all of you. I have zero beef with him. We text occasionally and offer opinions on games.

Its really simple. If you don't want to subscribe to a service, then don't. But many of you want to flap your jaws and talk your shit.

There are financial advisors that lose people money. Should we shut down that line of business?? Are those people douchebags too??

This is what people who actually know me, and are on my channel say:

Honest, transparent, good guy. Can be a bit high strung. Works hard.

I'll take that over any insults people here, that don't know me, want to throw my way.

Go on Twitter if you want to see what a tout looks like. 10U bangers, live bets, every fucking emoji plastered all over their posts. Its a cesspool of scumbags and blowhards.

If my entire channel went away it wouldn't change my life at all.

Take away the discords and all the other avenues that pick sellers have, and it would impact them IMMENSELY.

Most are nothing but full time marketers. Very few keep an up to date record. Many charge 10X what I do. Gambling Twitter is the most nauseating place on earth.

I still come here and post, because its what I love to do. Handicap sports. I'm pretty good. Many here are really good people, some are absolute disgraces and shitheads.

yes @Loves2kickass most touts don't bet their own plays, they make too much money selling. I bet every play I put out, and if I didn't bet my NFL I would be a special kind of stupid.

@Bruins4Life I have no beef with you. You caught me in a foul mood and I responded.

@phdinsports scumbag douche?? You're out of line with that

Enjoy the games, hope you guys win some money
People are jealous of others' success. The Political Forum is FILLED with losers like that.
 

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Hey I did correct myself with the very next post saying "I jumped the gun a little," 'cause I don't know how much per unit B4L was betting! If he's a nickel or dime player than no biggie, everyone goes through slumps. But if he only bets 100 per unit and you losing 60 units in a couple of months, well then that changes things don't ya think?
I didn't lose 60 units in a couple months.
Just give it a rest already
 

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"There are financial advisors that lose people money. Should we shut down that line of business?? Are those people douchebags too??"

ABSOFUCKINLUTELY!! :ROFLMAO: :ROFLMAO:

carry on:popcorn:
 

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Not blaming you for anything BIZ.
Simply sharing my experience.
Gave you credit for your NFL picks. Especially first half unders.

6k loss over 2 or 3 months. Not life changing for me.
Live and learn.

If you don't mind me asking how much were you betting per unit, or better yet how many units did he lose in those 2-3 months?
 
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I would hate to be the beggar/liar who didn't realize the hurricane heading their way. Might be time to batten down the hatches.
 

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The problem is the forum needs to hold people who sell picks to a higher standard because its a bad look if they happen to scam people in some way out of money.
I got no opinion on his business sports service since I never have and never will buy so it is not fair for me to speculate what he does. Just consider that though. Fair for anyone to give their experience positive or negative. Keep in mind they may be true or they may not be true as goes with people selling picks it is possible they are honest but most are not.
 

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A Person starting a Service HAS to come on sites like these in order to gain customers -there is no other way! Word of mouth only gets a few. Thats why they take Chances, knowing it violates the Rules -they dont care -why should they -they never lose -its a no lose scenario. Hacheman did his job no matter how you cut it!
 

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A Person starting a Service HAS to come on sites like these in order to gain customers -there is no other way! Word of mouth only gets a few. Thats why they take Chances, knowing it violates the Rules -they dont care -why should they -they never lose -its a no lose scenario. Hacheman did his job no matter how you cut it!
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You're so full of shit. You were BMM's little sheep dog. Every time he posted anything you were right there sucking up. Same with BR's thread, always interjecting with all your knowledge about everything. If so and so tout played this game, just bet against them.....Play any teasers lately? Now you're even playing both sides of a gamer in a teaser....
 

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You're so full of shit. You were BMM's little sheep dog. Every time he posted anything you were right there sucking up. Same with BR's thread, always interjecting with all your knowledge about everything. If so and so tout played this game, just bet against them.....Play any teasers lately? Now you're even playing both sides of a gamer in a teaser....
Xeno wins consistently, and he is fair and honest about things… back off
 

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You're so full of shit. You were BMM's little sheep dog. Every time he posted anything you were right there sucking up. Same with BR's thread, always interjecting with all your knowledge about everything. If so and so tout played this game, just bet against them.....Play any teasers lately? Now you're even playing both sides of a gamer in a teaser....
Hold on there -i didnt Know he was servicing -i thought personally he was ok and had a good streak there for a while -but he was Wrong for trying to garner others on here -when i heard about what hacheman showed and others i went against that -i dont follow all the drama - even pirate alew was thinking he was ok and others thought same
 

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You're so full of shit. You were BMM's little sheep dog. Every time he posted anything you were right there sucking up. Same with BR's thread, always interjecting with all your knowledge about everything. If so and so tout played this game, just bet against them.....Play any teasers lately? Now you're even playing both sides of a gamer in a teaser....
Who the hell are you anyway -hmm i think i know lol i pkay teasers as many else do so what -you have a problem -do you Post plays? Idiot
 

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I have no problem with BIZ. My experience was at least a year ago. I paid, followed by choice, and moved on.
He's a very good NFL capper. Especially divison first half unders.
I also have no problem with BMM. I don't believe he ever lied to ME or tried to deceive ME.

If you follow a service, or tout, or a guy who posts here, you do so at your own volition. I press the "SEND BET" button. Nobody else.
 
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A Person starting a Service HAS to come on sites like these in order to gain customers -there is no other way! Word of mouth only gets a few. Thats why they take Chances, knowing it violates the Rules -they dont care -why should they -they never lose -its a no lose scenario. Hacheman did his job no matter how you cut it!
And the RX has the right to charge anyone advertising on their platforms. That's how it works. Ask Google. The whole internet is based on advertising.
 

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Agree ^^^^ guys lets just move on.
 

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