I just wanted to mention that for a while now people have been under this delusion people leave for trolling but it really is not true. People don't really have the problem with trolling they have a problem with disagreement or valid criticism. Some moron in a thread bashing someone for losing or non-valid criticism is something to laugh at. How you could you be triggered enough to leave is silly. It is because that is not why they leave. Pretty much all if it is going tout or not liking valid criticism. Who cares when some moron says something not true or about a loss? We all lose. It is when the truth hurts that gets to people.
That may be but isn't it odd and yet sophmoric to you that the loudest idiots in here who criticize others are those who DON'T POST their own plays? (just read the childish poster above who criticized @jkennington1966 but doesnt have guts to say anything before the game or post his own plays, childish and no guts).
It's one thing to give criticism but those who aren't contributing at all have no leg to stand on at all. Afterall, very few of us put ourselves out with picks and stand by the picks while the few morons who dont have the guts chime in with nonsense. @XENO said it as well as many others, those who dont' post picks should be banned for doing this crap. IMHO (and many other's)
It is definitely one thing to have valid criticism and another to obsess but I think some people like to absorb info and then something just pops int their head along with their own capping. I mean I would rather someone do the best to be honest and lose than post things that make no sense. Bashing people for losing is a completely different animal because it has no value. Also info is just as in fnot more important. Many time I have seen a few comments on a game in your thread about a specific game that were a million times more useful than just the play. Embid being hobbled in his last game and maybe not playing vs Jazz a perfect example
%I gotta disagree with you brother. IMO those that call out crazy lines and inaccurate records ARE contributing to the forum by keeping posters accountable. Without these posters, everyone would have winning percentages of 80%! Now of course there's a fine line between what constitutes an inaccurate line. For example I do recall you did have an idiot calling you out for posting favourable moneylines. I remember that I accidently bet on a game (which of course lost) and posted the screenshot of the bet, to prove to the idiot that your lines were off to your detriment too! This is where you get the trolling. Guys with nothing else to do but harp on a few moneyline discrepancies, especially with a poster like you that posts so many plays! Now if all your lines were off in your favour, which is no where near the case, then there is an issue. But like I said before you posted both favourable and non-favourable moneylines, which means the idiot was just being an idiot!
yeah i hear ya, in my case for some reason, the trolling is stupid and ridiculous and they are usually dead wrong as you called out eloquently with a good example (unfortunately, more trolls have appeared doing the same). I get the accountability part, it just needs to be done in a different form/tact without the incessant trolling and nonsense and one guy (Dime) cluttering my threads and others who do it to a few posters. that just gets old especially for me as a new idiots keep popping up and cluttering threads.
But I understand your points and well taken and for some it may be a good thing, just needs to be approached in a decent manner without vitriol, sometimes people make an honest mistake.
The main thing is for it not to be 1 poster badgering the same person on an issue. I think if as a group it would make more of an impact to have a valid criticism not just two people fighting about it. But just as big of a problem as people who obsess or bash are d suckers who defend anything. Something is either right, wrong, makes sense or doesn't no matter who posts it. Don't defend people based on whether you like them or feel they benefit you. Try and be nice about your criticisms if they are valid.
Free speech is free speech you don’t like it don’t listen. No different than people who were offended by Rush or Howard Stern or anyone. I realize this is the internet but seriously when it’s completely gone we will miss it. This is what makes us different than any other nation out there whether you like it or not. I like having civil liberties ignore the haters and agree to disagree. thicker Skin is needed
This dude Micky is not all that good. his plays were posted on my twitter group acct the last few years and we made tons of money by fading him. If you pay $500 for plays than YOU BETTER STOP BETTING is all I can say, cause you'll be broke as a JOKE
Ive been here since the beginning of this website and know who all the GOOD cappers are and WHO are NOT. MICKYMILLIONS is NOT!!!
Ive been here since the beginning of this website and know who all the GOOD cappers are and WHO are NOT. MICKYMILLIONS is NOT!!!
AGREE, he also SCAMMED many people esp a few years ago. There was a YOUTUBE video of several people who shared what Miikeymillions did by deleting his losses, and was always up but he was really down. He was begging them for more money and they made a video. He admitted to me on telegram he had to pay a bunch of money to have it deleted. You can also find some posts on google and reddit just under his name and the stories of how he scammed others.
One former customer who used to post on here even posted his actual records, and showed his deletions of games in the actionAPP, which miikey admitted to me also you can delete records/games after saying here you couldn't. Further, he also admitted to me that NONE of those slips he posts are real and that he doesn't bet any of his games or posted picks (just fun parlays every now and then).
He was trying to convince me to join "the dark side" and be a tout.....as he said he DOESN'T bet any of the games he posts because as he said "when you make so much money touting, why bet?"
He's always promoting and trying to sell his package, running sales every day with 10 spots left, now 8, now 6, like he's selling a limited quality like Milk and bread before an ice storm (he then offers the same deal a day or two later, with LIMITED Quantities of spots, obvious clue that business is BAD!)). I've spent 20+ years in sales at companies like IBM/Oracle, etc, and he makes most sales people look bad with these tactics. Snake oil sales at it's finest.
People leave for many reasons.
Some people get tired of the idiotic comments from people that couldn't pick the winner of a 1 horse race.
Some get tired of people bloating their records with ridiculous 5-10 unit plays
Some get tired of people posting threads without accounting for any juice
Some get tired of a forum where the mods let the idiots run wild.
I posted regularly for 10 years, posted tons of winners. I got tired of the constant negativity, trolls, and other worthless bullshit that is on this site daily.
I started a Telegram channel that costs peanuts to join. It allows me to control who is on the channel. Fortunately, many sharp and intelligent people are drawn to it. I have a chat channel that is fun, conversational, and respectful....qualities that this site sorely lacks.
I cover every sport, some are highly profitable, some aren't. Overall we win and have a lot of fun.
People from all walks of life have joined. Business professionals, financial people, professional tennis coaches, business owners, and everyone in between. We discuss, laugh, joke, entertain, inform, and have a blast every day talking about sports and everything other than sports.
If someone is out of line, I have the ability to temper it down.
Sports should be fun. This forum sucks the life out of it. My Telegram Channel and YouTube channel more than make up for not being here.
This site is a far cry from what it used to be.
Yeah I was cool with him until I found out about his constant lies and how he scammed some folks on here that I know …the biggest thing for me is being ethical. None of those slips or game tickets were his . He also never bet his games or picks but acts like he was big on a certain game (many others can attest to this as some of his clients found out). If you’re not betting the game u send out especially those that people pay for, means you have no skin in the game and not to mention the deceit ..
Then he was called out and busted for deleting many of his losses . You can find the results on a google search as well as his former clients who spotted it. He set up a telegram channel for us all to talk but it was just a ploy to spam a bunch of folks with his promo channel. Very sleazy
Just Google Mikey Ventura aka milkey millions scamming and you will see some of it from others . It’s why he admitted to me he had to keep changing his name
