New member - wager cancelled!

[theswami]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by sds:
I am afraid I haven't as much free time as guys like shivering clown rimmer so here is a summary of the answers..........
Ragu - sounds about right - I remember it being in the 1:30 neighbourhood.
As for EXACT TIMES as one person keeps stressing - how the hell can I know exacttimes when I cannot get into the account or see anything about the bet? The only way I was informed that the bet was after post was via telephone when I called them. When I told them what I thought - account suspended and therefore NO VIEWING!
As for "regular bets" etc - I stated from the outset that I am small time - I have put 40 or 50 bucks on a race but with a few options. This bet was for father-in-law and he'll drop $200 on a race easily. He asked me to put $50 on this race and I only had $44 in the account - so $40 it was!
IF I wanted to "Scam", believe me, my VISA would have got a sizzling workout BEFORE I bet and I would have loaded that puppy up with $5000 to make sure I made some real money.
This is not big money I am talking about here BUT to him, it is important. He is a pensioner who supplements with this game.
sds<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>

i assume that i'm that "one person" you refer to above....so

What happended to the rest of the money in your account since it is frozen? Have you asked for an email of the tickets?

like i said, you will NOT get any help from this site unless you provide information that will lead people to believe that you are credible. right now sds, you are running on empty.

keep fighting though...i love to see how inept people are at solving problems or how desperate people are to pull a scam whatever the case may be.

 

[sds]

Jabow - are you really that simple? Although I am not a bettor of any real ocnsequence, I DO know how to operate a computer. A rhesus monkey can navigate a site (you and clown are living proof) and the concept of the "trifecta", regardless of how complex you may want to believe it is, is really not.
HE is the gambler, I was the messenger - simple.
As for "not giving the General the info so I must be running on empty....blah blah"
Do you guys read past posts? You really canot be as dense as you are coming off. In fact, I feel that you have heard what I said but are trying to make this an amusing regression thread. You asked for the book - I posted. You asked for the race - I posted. You asked for times - I said that given the fact my account was frozen when I complained, I cannot access this info - can you really find this concept that taxing?
I came here to look for honest legalities and found a few babbling boobs who just like to hear themselves talk. To call someone who ran into a technological hitch whiletrying to bet at the track a washed up gambler is ridiculous - especially when I WOULD bet that he or I could buy or sell you. So lay off the useless posts and give some useful input.
thanks for your help General
sds

 

[Matt24]

I didnt read this whole thread, but I noticed something about refunds. So to answer your question, I ran a little test at Pinnacle. I left the page up where you can place your bet until it was after 3 MPT, then I made my bet on a huge longshot. $10 WPS, of course it lost and of course it was REFUNDED just like I figured.

 

[GreenDoberman]

reading this, i would say sorry bud you are out. in a court of law, you're shaky story does not hold up.
you will be lucky if they give you any money back.

 

[theswami]

sds-

you said your account is frozen due to the past post......

what happended to the funds in the account?

 

[cashingtheticket]

I got refunded on a 100.00 wager at Olympic that was a loser that I past posted on accident. The book goes in and inputs the time and the grading takes care of itself.

Chalk me up for a vote that you are a scammer. You probably call the cops when you hire a hooker if she steals the extra cash out of your wallet.

 

[GottaWinToday]

Sooooo much pissing and moaning about a PAST POST BET.......

You probably don't understand the word "NO" either......


GottaWinToday

 

[sds]

Swami- I was told that they were sending the cash balance of the account via mail.
As for "Cashingtheticket" - what exactly is the difference between YOU betting after time and ME betting after post - except I want clarification as to why the system can accept bets, make you think that you are "in" and then cancel said wager.
YOU do it and things are fine, I do it and scammer?
As for the hooker comment - I am sure that you have been in that position - sounded likethe voice of experience.
sds

 

[IDENTITY]

you're a scammer, son

 

[sds]

As usual - more justification for "Judges" having some form of "experience". I would truly hate to be on trial in this court of clowns.
Thankfully there are a few very decent, logical individuals present as well. Another reason why a strong sturcture dictates that there should be more chiefs than indians.

sds

 

[lander]

SDS Resume.

Experience
1983-1987 Scammer.
1987-1992 Thief.
1993-1994 Prision.
1994-1995 Crook.
1995-1998 Prision.
1998-2000 Hustler.
2000-2002 Swindler
2002-present Past-poster.

References
Sick Gambler
Crudebar
CT

Hobbies
Stealing from Salvation Army donation boxes, past-posting, compulsive lying.

 

[icedog]

As far as "Horse software" goes, there's nothing wrong for a book to set up betting to go a half hour after post to compensate for inquiries that can back up post times. All they have to do is when the off time is entered with the results it kicks out any past posts. Clear and simple so of course it would say "bet accepted" but that by no means is a binding legal contract. They also may have an automatic flag format set up for past posting accounts so that they can address the matter personally and decide if they want a past poster to continue as a customer.

 

[TomorrowsNewspaper+]

<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR> IF I was to "SCAM" by purposely betting after post, would you not think that the wager would have been MORE THAN $40!??? Where is the logic?
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At 80 to 1 you knew you would be caught if you bet any more than that. Too bad. You thought you had some easy money. I'm sure if this worked the next bet would have been for alot more. You could have at least boxed the trifecta to not make it look so bad. Oh, but then your $40 balance would not allow you to make $3200.

Give it up. You are busted. Be glad you are getting the $44 back. If it were me, I would hand deliver it since you tried to steal my $3200.

 

[jls626]

All books will credit your account with a cancelled wager within 3 minutes to post, most will do it within 5 minutes to post! You only bet 40$ to not make it obvious! Anything above that would've raised red flags anyhow! I bet with alt of shops who have a race up when its over! Try to past post them more than once and don't be surprized if you get canned from them , then you'll be crying here ,oh just got booted for no reason! Bottom line is people get hurt trying to past post a book! Do it to your local guy and see what happens!

 

[jls626]

I new 2 guys who made a living past posting a local guy for a while! At the Port Authority in NYC bout 25 years ago! They had 5 phones right outside OTB on the second floor! One guy called his book to bet some games and horses and his partner was inside OTB raising the # of the winner of a race that just finished and as soon as he saw the # while he was on the phone with the book he would give him the bet of a winner of a race that has just ran! Can't do it everytime but when you hit a cold streak it's nice to have a guaranteed winner to ease the loses! They beat this guy out of Thousands! Back then the races weren't televised and there were windows there so the guy on the phone could see the guy raising his fingers for the horse that won, ran second and third! Diferent version of the movie, THE STING,lol! All of a sudden this guy inside of OTB couldn't find his partner anymore, well he wound up floating on shore off the Hudson River 2 months later! Never found out who killed him! Bottom line is DON'T PASTT POST BOOKS, can only hurt you in the long run!

 

[sds]

So then using your logic, I should have made a $100 Traictor box bet. Then THAT would have been "ok" and you would have "believed it" . LMFAO
I think that you answered the point yourself - IF I was looking to "create" a legitimate "scam", I would have "spent more" (ie: boxed several horses) AND BET MORE (to get the same benefit in profit)
The fact of the matter is that this was not a well orchestrated "scam" as you put it. It was a phone call followed by a simple bet.
The more that I listen to some of the input, the more that I realize that many of you are using the money from your newspaper routes to bet with. Many of you guys are VERY small potatoes on a big farm. I have personally watched my father-in-law drop $200 on a race, and back when he was in Toronto I witnessed one bet he made for $7500.
I'd like to know how many of the big talkers here aren't shaking their bunny banks for many of their "bets". I cannot believe how the word "thousand" referring to "win" makes everyone lose it. If I wasn't winning several THOUSAND a month doing this, then I could hardly consider myself a good gambler... is it possible that guys who are good gamblers avopid these boards and the "wannabees" hit them hard and slam people for fun here?
sds

~~and for "JLS" - my wager was cancelled 30 MINUTES after the race! You said 3 mins from post would be the cancellation correct? So what would be the problem there?

 

[jls626]

I SAID YOUR WAGER WOULD BE CANCELLED IF YOU PLACED IT 3-5 MINUTES PRIOR TO A RACE UNLESS YOU BET WITH TVG. OF COURSE IF IT WAS BET AFTER A START OF A RACE , OBVIOUSLY IT WAS AFTER THE 3-5 MINUTE CAPSULE, IT WOULD BE VOID!aLOT OF BOOKS HAVE A RACE STILL UP AFTER IT RAN! ALOT OF BOOKS SAY ACCEPTED BUT IT TAKES 30 MINUTES TO GRADE A RACE! ONCE THEY SEE THE TIME IT WAS TAKEN TO THE TIME THE RACE WAS OVER THEY ADJUST EVERYTHING, THUS A VOID ON THE BET! mOST BOOKS HAVE ONLY A COUPLE GUYS IN THERE HORSE DEPARTMENT ESPECIALLY THE SMALLER BOOKS! tHATS WHY THERE ARE SOME MISTAKES! iF YOU WERE CREDITED WITH A WIN, AND I'M SURE THAT WILL NEVER HAPPEN WOULD YOU'VE ACCEPTED IT IN GOOD FAITH??BOOKS WON'T TAKE ACTION ON HORSES 3-5 MINUTES BEFORE AND ESPECIALY AFTER A RACE RUNS,LOL!

 

[jls626]

Hey SDS,
Maybe you should keep your bullshit remarks to yourself! I think you are a wannabe myself! Saw my father bet 200 on a race, big deal! I wipe my ass with 200$ bets on horses,lol! If he was at the track and asked you to bet he must be a loser or else he would,ve had te cash to bet the horse himself you past post loser!

 

[sds]

First, gets the "cap locks" off before you post.
Second , your second last post hurt my brain trying to read that crap you call "english" - take a course on writing if you wish to post to me
Third, yer an ass. I am betting that you don't actually wipe your OWN ass. I still laugh at the density ...... if I wanted to scam then why put in a $40 bet with a straight tri.? Why not a $200 bet and pick 4 or 5 horses for it? Believe me son, if I was trying to sacm I would have done that PLUS I would have picked a triactor that paid some BIG dividends!!!! Ever seen a $300 tri? $500 tri? $1500 tri ??? Sure have! Regularly. So why then if this well orchestrated plan was in place, did I not take advantage of it? Your idea is laughable.
sds

 

[jls626]

What is a triactor, talk bout my english,lol! Obviously I don't know what kind of bettor you are, but if you aren't a big bettor and placed a large amount on that bet then red flags would've been raised! You figured I'll bet a lousey 40$, maybe they won't catch it,lol! You tried to past post and got busted! You should be3 black balled from the gambling Industry! ere no caps , are your eyes focusing better now! AND I'M not your son,lol thank god!