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Barman for Vitterd. Solid trade for the RX.

Only in here because the highly delusional and relentless troublemaker Vit is off site for a few days. When he returns to wage his 578th consecutive five page Trade of Insults with the same half dozen people he's been insulting for OVER SEVEN YEARS NOW, I will be long gone.

I still view the RxForum as a site friendly to non-arguing, non-insult driven sports&gambling fans and am confident there are still at least 50 or more gentlemen (and a few ladies) with who I enjoy web-based chat.

But the guy posting as Vitterd has singlehandedly made this RxForum virtually unreadable and I decided as far back as late 2012 that trying to navigate the site without stepping into one of his dozens (now literally Hundreds) of multi-page cyber shitfests is not worth the value of the aforementioned many friendly relationships I've developed here over past 14 years.

Best wishes to all RxForum true denizens.....when time is right, I hope to reengage with many of you, both here and in The Real Outside world, as I have so many times before.
 

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fair enough. For the record, I struggled to type 'he'll adapt'-- left side of my brain violently fired : 'complete nonsense!'.................proud to get it done, tho....


looks like healthcare is occupying his thoughts, fired this randomly 4 hrs ago....


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Obamacare continues to fail. Humana to pull out in 2018. Will repeal, replace & save healthcare for ALL Americans. https://origin-nyi.thehill.com/policy/healthcare/319538-humana-to-drop-out-of-obamacare-marketplace-at-end-of-2017 …
 

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Guesser lost Friends & Co-Workers at The World Trade Center on 9/11. He worked there at the time, may have been off that day or may have been scheduled to get in at 10? I think he had the day off IIRC.

He may have even been late though.

His first instinct was to hate Muslims but over time he concluded that this would only leave he himself damaged, by all-consuming hatred and also he concluded that all Muslims are not like those involved in terrorism, Brutality and Primitive Practices, Beliefs and the subjugation/abuse of Female Women and Children.

Plus Guesser lives in an area of NYC that is among the most racially diverse in USA, possibly in the whole world....per square foot.

So there are Muslims there and apparently they are nice.

Guesser will likely not approve of me telling his story but Background is important, the 911 stuff....suffering thru that....some guys don't know Guesser Backstory, I probably messed up exactness of it but Key is that he has arrived at Defense of Islam, Muslims via a Path that needs to be taken into consideration by people confused by his positions on stuff.

Cuz who knows where such a path takes a person? or would have led any of us to?


sounds like he's following in Jesus Christ's footsteps......that can't be bad

I think Mr Trump is against (as everyone is) Radical Islamic Terrorism, not Muslims per say. The % of Muslims that are consumed with it. I think he has made that clear.
 

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fair enough. For the record, I struggled to type 'he'll adapt'-- left side of my brain violently fired : 'complete nonsense!'.................proud to get it done, tho....


looks like healthcare is occupying his thoughts

Yes, it was......for the five minute window surrounding the cited tweet.

Then a fresh message was inserted into the FOXNews, CNN, MSNBC scrolling chryon and oh yeah, a squirrel ran by outside his window and The Beat Goes On
 

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Never fear...whatever admittedly tiny level of political activism I might wage in next four years will be saved for President Pence.

Oh that will be interesting being that Pence will be The Presidential Equivalent of a Nembutal/Soma/Ambien Cocktail. I guess you plan to accomplish this Activism while Sleeping. If not and you haven't planned that you'd better cuz Pence is straight up gonna be the Best Sleeping Pill this planet has ever been force-fed.

Especially after this Roller-Coaster on Fire Ride that we're on at present.
 

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Guesser lost Friends & Co-Workers at The World Trade Center on 9/11. He worked there at the time, may have been off that day or may have been scheduled to get in at 10? I think he had the day off IIRC.

He may have even been late though.

His first instinct was to hate Muslims but over time he concluded that this would only leave he himself damaged, by all-consuming hatred and also he concluded that all Muslims are not like those involved in terrorism, Brutality and Primitive Practices, Beliefs and the subjugation/abuse of Female Women and Children.

Plus Guesser lives in an area of NYC that is among the most racially diverse in USA, possibly in the whole world....per square foot.

So there are Muslims there and apparently they are nice.

Guesser will likely not approve of me telling his story but Background is important, the 911 stuff....suffering thru that....some guys don't know Guesser Backstory, I probably messed up exactness of it but Key is that he has arrived at Defense of Islam, Muslims via a Path that needs to be taken into consideration by people confused by his positions on stuff.

Cuz who knows where such a path takes a person? or would have led any of us to?
Always in favor of the truth, so don't mind at all. I'll clarify the things you got wrong. I was not off, but due in about 9:45, so I never left my house. Was never "consumed with hate", like you sickos. In my darkest hour, that will never happen. I was angry that I lost people I knew, and for a very short period, was looking for someone, anyone to blame, as we all were. Quickly came to my senses, and realized no Religion was to blame, when I went to the Muslim owned Candy store across the street, and they were as upset and shocked as everyone else. Only sick people consumed with hatred, like many of you RX Stormfronters, blame a Religion for some sickos within it, that bastardize it for their own evil purposes.
 

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Guesser lost Friends & Co-Workers at The World Trade Center on 9/11. He worked there at the time, may have been off that day or may have been scheduled to get in at 10? I think he had the day off IIRC.

He may have even been late though.

His first instinct was to hate Muslims but over time he concluded that this would only leave he himself damaged, by all-consuming hatred and also he concluded that all Muslims are not like those involved in terrorism, Brutality and Primitive Practices, Beliefs and the subjugation/abuse of Female Women and Children.

Plus Guesser lives in an area of NYC that is among the most racially diverse in USA, possibly in the whole world....per square foot.

So there are Muslims there and apparently they are nice.

Guesser will likely not approve of me telling his story but Background is important, the 911 stuff....suffering thru that....some guys don't know Guesser Backstory, I probably messed up exactness of it but Key is that he has arrived at Defense of Islam, Muslims via a Path that needs to be taken into consideration by people confused by his positions on stuff.

Cuz who knows where such a path takes a person? or would have led any of us to?


If he lost friends on 911....I hate that for him or anyone else that went through that. I will say its amazing that its that easy to forgive and forget. I personally have not problem with immigrants, as long as they come in the right way. We have no obligation to take anyone from anywhere that doesnt go through the correct procedures and vetting. I love this country too much to see it become another European country like Germany.
 

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What the hell is wrong with you? Once again......who is paying for all these people and what assets do they bring? Why do you hate America so much? Have some pride....you may wake up and think...damn I need to quit being such a vagina.
It is YOU who hate America, and willingly voted for, and Support a Wannabe Fascist Dictator, and Russian Sympathizer, at best, spy at worse. Most of these refugees are coming for Humanitarian reasons, to escape Terrorism and war. That is who we are as a Country, or at least were before the Fascist took over. Stop being so afraid, Pussy. Your snowflake little ass won't be harmed by the big bad Mooslems.
 

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If he lost friends on 911....I hate that for him or anyone else that went through that. I will say its amazing that its that easy to forgive and forget. I personally have not problem with immigrants, as long as they come in the right way. We have no obligation to take anyone from anywhere that doesnt go through the correct procedures and vetting. I love this country too much to see it become another European country like Germany.
You would have fit in great with the America that turned away Jews trying to escape the Germany that was taken over by a Fascist in the late 30's. Sometimes we're above "what will they do, and who is paying for them". http://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2017/1/27/14412082/refugees-history-holocaust
 

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If he lost friends on 911....I hate that for him or anyone else that went through that. I will say its amazing that its that easy to forgive and forget. I personally have not problem with immigrants, as long as they come in the right way. We have no obligation to take anyone from anywhere that doesnt go through the correct procedures and vetting. I love this country too much to see it become another European country like Germany.
I NEVER Forget, nor do my people. That's why most of us are so sympathetic when another Religion is being treated in a similar way mine was, and is throughout history.
 

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Yeah, same happened to me when I read that, what you wrote about him "adapting".

The Man ain't gonna adapt to sh!t.

I sense that he does not like to "study". Does not like reading stuff, prefers someone else read and say to him Bullet Points which he resents having to listen to. I believe that he likes to "Wing It."

If so this approach may not work well with China and Xi Boi as Opponent in Communist Ping Pong

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Thump First Serve no go too well, smashback.

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Thump Clumple. :(
 

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If he lost friends on 911....I hate that for him or anyone else that went through that. I will say its amazing that its that easy to forgive and forget. I personally have not problem with immigrants, as long as they come in the right way. We have no obligation to take anyone from anywhere that doesnt go through the correct procedures and vetting. I love this country too much to see it become another European country like Germany.



N America is nothing without immigration. Nothing. Everyone's ancestors came from somewhere, be it sweden ,ireland, russia, england, italy, brasil..etc. Vetting process , sadly, is especially important now, as is common sense.



what has helped America to be so great is its attraction of other countries best, brightest minds . This Should be nurtured not detoured. Care so as to not create an image of America as a unfriendly, dangerous place for minorities. It all comes from the top. The image projected, the words chosen.

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Trump travel ban has Iranian scientists looking for new places to do research


In a bio-technology lab at Harvard University's medical school an international group of highly skilled scientists are dreaming up new ways to engineer artificial human tissue with 3-D printers. Some of their brainpower these days, though, isn't focused on the science but instead on U.S. president Donald Trump's immigration ban and what it means to them and to their work.
"Half of the discussions in the lab these days are about this topic and not about science," said Saghi Saghazadeh, a 30-year-old Iranian who has been living and studying in Boston for two years, on a single-entry J1 visa


She's one of 20 Iranians, with varying passports and visas, working in this one lab of 100 people at Harvard. It draws doctoral students and instructors from all over the world.
But their expertise doesn't exempt them from the travel ban enacted more than a week ago.
Iran is top of the U.S. State Department's list of state sponsors of terror and one of the seven countries whose citizens the U.S. has put under a 90-day immigration freeze in the name of — as the executive order is titled — "Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States."


Choosing between education or feeling safe

Saghazadeh, who was top of her class in Polymer Engineering at Tehran Polytechnic and won several scholarships to study in France and Belgium and eventually at Harvard, wonders if the U.S. is still the place for her.
"Do I want to be at a kick-ass scientific place but not feel welcome in the country, or do I want to be with family and feel safe? That's the question I am asking myself," she said.
Her parents in Iran are unable to visit her under the ban and she is unable to visit them — for now. And her dream of eventually applying for a green card is on hold. She's reconsidering.


Though the ban is temporary — she's not convinced things will improve for people from the countries on the list. And even with a Seattle judge overturning the ban late Friday, the White House has vowed to fight back.
"I am considering going somewhere else. At some point, we want to feel welcome at the place where we are living and working," she said.
Saghazadeh, who is working on smart bandages in the lab (these are bandages which sense things and then deliver therapies) said she's thinking about Europe, Canada and Australia, even though she recognizes that "the best scientists in the world, in my field, are here," she said, referring to Harvard.
Cutting off international expertise

"It is sad for science. A lot of professors who are advanced in their fields are internationals. They are all here trying to get new things done and there is a strength from the diversity of all these scientists. We will probably lose that and that is sad."
Iranians value science and many go on to excel in their fields, which explains their presence in the Harvard lab.


For Canadian-Iranian instructor Ali Tamayol, 34, it's all bad news. He's also on a J1 visa, which means he had questions about whether he could travel for work or even get together with old friends from Toronto on a Mexican holiday this winter.
His lawyer told him it was probably best not to travel during the 90-day freeze period. Harvard representatives suggested the same, he said.
Harvard is trying to support its students and faculty affected by the ban. Both the president of the university and the dean of the medical school issued strong statements against the ban and the university joined seven other higher education institutions, on Friday, in filing a brief to support efforts to challenge Trump's executive order.
"It is essential that our commitments to national security not unduly stifle the free flow of ideas and people that are critical to progress in a democratic society," the brief reads.
'It's going to create a lot of chaos'

Tamayol says he was "shocked" at hearing of the executive order.
"It's going to create a lot of chaos. The nature of the work we do requires a lot of travel to share findings and learn from each other. It is cutting us off from the rest of the world," he said.

Lab director Ali Khademhosseini is a world renowned scientist who has a U.S. passport and Canadian citizenship, so he believes his own travel may not be affected. But he worries about the disruption for all the Iranians in his lab, plus the 25 foreigners from various countries who are in the pipeline to come to work here. Some of them have already bought tickets to fly to Boston, but it's unclear if they have had their visas revoked or not.


"I totally understand the perspective of needing to ensure the security of Americans," said Khademhosseini. "I just don't think this is the way to do it. None of the countries [on the list] have been the culprits of the terror attacks in the U.S."
So he's added his name among the thousands of American professors and scientists who oppose the ban. He protested in Boston's Copley Square and plans to attend the Science March on Washington on April 22.
Immigrants important to science

"Making people realize the importance of immigrants in the science and innovation engine of the U.S. is very important," he said.
"We've had Iranian-Americans who were major inventors of laser-eye surgery or have been major players in the development of companies like Google, DropBox and Oracle."
Khademhosseini speculates about whether it will be a boon for Canada.
 

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It is YOU who hate America, and willingly voted for, and Support a Wannabe Fascist Dictator, and Russian Sympathizer, at best, spy at worse. Most of these refugees are coming for Humanitarian reasons, to escape Terrorism and war. That is who we are as a Country, or at least were before the Fascist took over. Stop being so afraid, Pussy. Your snowflake little ass won't be harmed by the big bad Mooslems.



Who pays for these people? What assets do they bring? Is it not the same people that recently invaded Germany, and now the Globalist hack Merkel is trying to bribe them out.
 

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MD, why do the Chinese dominate ping pong? I don't get it.
 

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Who pays for these people? What assets do they bring? Is it not the same people that recently invaded Germany, and now the Globalist hack Merkel is trying to bribe them out.
Germany, and some European Nations did not Vet properly, and took in too many people for their Infrastructure to Support. That was NOT a problem for America, as we have extremely rigorous Vetting in effect, and took in a very small amount of Humanitarian Refugees, which our infrastructure can easily handle.
 

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N America is nothing without immigration. Nothing. Everyone's ancestors came from somewhere, be it sweden ,ireland, russia, england, italy, brasil..etc. Vetting process , sadly, is especially important now, as is common sense.



what has helped America to be so great is its attraction of other countries best, brightest minds . This Should be nurtured not detoured. Care so as to not create an image of America as a unfriendly, dangerous place for minorities. It all comes from the top. The image projected, the words chosen.

......................


Trump travel ban has Iranian scientists looking for new places to do research


In a bio-technology lab at Harvard University's medical school an international group of highly skilled scientists are dreaming up new ways to engineer artificial human tissue with 3-D printers. Some of their brainpower these days, though, isn't focused on the science but instead on U.S. president Donald Trump's immigration ban and what it means to them and to their work.
"Half of the discussions in the lab these days are about this topic and not about science," said Saghi Saghazadeh, a 30-year-old Iranian who has been living and studying in Boston for two years, on a single-entry J1 visa


She's one of 20 Iranians, with varying passports and visas, working in this one lab of 100 people at Harvard. It draws doctoral students and instructors from all over the world.
But their expertise doesn't exempt them from the travel ban enacted more than a week ago.
Iran is top of the U.S. State Department's list of state sponsors of terror and one of the seven countries whose citizens the U.S. has put under a 90-day immigration freeze in the name of — as the executive order is titled — "Protecting the Nation from Foreign Terrorist Entry Into the United States."


Choosing between education or feeling safe

Saghazadeh, who was top of her class in Polymer Engineering at Tehran Polytechnic and won several scholarships to study in France and Belgium and eventually at Harvard, wonders if the U.S. is still the place for her.
"Do I want to be at a kick-ass scientific place but not feel welcome in the country, or do I want to be with family and feel safe? That's the question I am asking myself," she said.
Her parents in Iran are unable to visit her under the ban and she is unable to visit them — for now. And her dream of eventually applying for a green card is on hold. She's reconsidering.


Though the ban is temporary — she's not convinced things will improve for people from the countries on the list. And even with a Seattle judge overturning the ban late Friday, the White House has vowed to fight back.
"I am considering going somewhere else. At some point, we want to feel welcome at the place where we are living and working," she said.
Saghazadeh, who is working on smart bandages in the lab (these are bandages which sense things and then deliver therapies) said she's thinking about Europe, Canada and Australia, even though she recognizes that "the best scientists in the world, in my field, are here," she said, referring to Harvard.
Cutting off international expertise

"It is sad for science. A lot of professors who are advanced in their fields are internationals. They are all here trying to get new things done and there is a strength from the diversity of all these scientists. We will probably lose that and that is sad."
Iranians value science and many go on to excel in their fields, which explains their presence in the Harvard lab.


For Canadian-Iranian instructor Ali Tamayol, 34, it's all bad news. He's also on a J1 visa, which means he had questions about whether he could travel for work or even get together with old friends from Toronto on a Mexican holiday this winter.
His lawyer told him it was probably best not to travel during the 90-day freeze period. Harvard representatives suggested the same, he said.
Harvard is trying to support its students and faculty affected by the ban. Both the president of the university and the dean of the medical school issued strong statements against the ban and the university joined seven other higher education institutions, on Friday, in filing a brief to support efforts to challenge Trump's executive order.
"It is essential that our commitments to national security not unduly stifle the free flow of ideas and people that are critical to progress in a democratic society," the brief reads.
'It's going to create a lot of chaos'

Tamayol says he was "shocked" at hearing of the executive order.
"It's going to create a lot of chaos. The nature of the work we do requires a lot of travel to share findings and learn from each other. It is cutting us off from the rest of the world," he said.

Lab director Ali Khademhosseini is a world renowned scientist who has a U.S. passport and Canadian citizenship, so he believes his own travel may not be affected. But he worries about the disruption for all the Iranians in his lab, plus the 25 foreigners from various countries who are in the pipeline to come to work here. Some of them have already bought tickets to fly to Boston, but it's unclear if they have had their visas revoked or not.


"I totally understand the perspective of needing to ensure the security of Americans," said Khademhosseini. "I just don't think this is the way to do it. None of the countries [on the list] have been the culprits of the terror attacks in the U.S."
So he's added his name among the thousands of American professors and scientists who oppose the ban. He protested in Boston's Copley Square and plans to attend the Science March on Washington on April 22.
Immigrants important to science

"Making people realize the importance of immigrants in the science and innovation engine of the U.S. is very important," he said.
"We've had Iranian-Americans who were major inventors of laser-eye surgery or have been major players in the development of companies like Google, DropBox and Oracle."
Khademhosseini speculates about whether it will be a boon for Canada.


Your sharp, but does America taking refugees fulfill its "obligation" as a nation? What is the percentage of these people that are doctors?
 

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Germany, and some European Nations did not Vet properly, and took in too many people for their Infrastructure to Support. That was NOT a problem for America, as we have extremely rigorous Vetting in effect, and took in a very small amount of Humanitarian Refugees, which our infrastructure can easily handle.


As long as these people come over that can support themselves, go through the proper process via visa or green cards, I never have had a problem. If they are coming over and government has to support them, they would be better off going to Germany. There is law in place to come in the country legally. Most of America on both sides could care less as long as its the right way and they are coming that can support themselves.
 

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Immigration was ok when the country was almost empty 200 years ago. Now we have to many people here... How many people are to many ?
 

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no one is obligated to do anything.


I think the delivery of the ban was poorly vetted, hasty . Done with , move forward.



as for existing refuges, those on American soil-- what is your opinion ? get them on a plane and send them to Syria/middle east? Ask Mexico or Canada to take them?
 

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Always in favor of the truth, so don't mind at all. I'll clarify the things you got wrong. I was not off, but due in about 9:45, so I never left my house. Was never "consumed with hate", like you sickos. In my darkest hour, that will never happen. I was angry that I lost people I knew, and for a very short period, was looking for someone, anyone to blame, as we all were. Quickly came to my senses, and realized no Religion was to blame, when I went to the Muslim owned Candy store across the street, and they were as upset and shocked as everyone else. Only sick people consumed with hatred, like many of you RX Stormfronters, blame a Religion for some sickos within it, that bastardize it for their own evil purposes.

The Ideology ("religion") does, at it's Core, contain Barbaric Edicts that yes all who call themselves "Muslim" do not observe, incorporate into their lives. I do feel like the level of Challenge that we have with Islamic Ideology will lessen greatly in generations to come, no way I can see the coming Generations of Young People submitting willfully to continued subservience to such obvious myth and blueprint for Ongoing Warfare to continue Partying like its 666 A.D.

with the Western World looming. Calling out to them

Islamists know this. Part of why they fight The West. Today. They know their ways will die, in time.

I do wish more than ANYTHING that the Fanatics were the ones "bastardizing" the Ideology but it is in fact as its always been those who do not follow the Savage Edicts that are "misusing" the Holy Texts. I appreciate that it is easier to pretend that Islam is not Terminally Flawed and that if not Revised there will be Hundreds of Thousands of Fleeing refugees every year for as long as it is not revised, in addition to thousands of murders and massive numbers of sexually abused people but this is reality.

Fine that you know people who choose to call themselves Muslim and not practice certain parts of The Q'uran or adhere to instructions of Imam but they fully know they exist in Disobedience and they live with Risk.

Islamic Ideology gets Revised, the Primitive Barbaric stuff eliminated or the world remains where it is now and your Muslim associates have to keep on pretending that there is no Problem within Islam itself.

I'd like to think that they would prefer to not live a Lie. That they'd prefer to live in Honesty. And Peace.

If their position is that Islamic Doctrine is fine as it is then they do not mind living in Lie and they do not care whether peace is found.

No un-biased Religious Scholar would even attempt to make an argument that Islamic Doctrine on the whole seeks Peace.

A few Verses nearer the front of The Q'uran yeah, when Mohammed was trying to work the "getting Jewish People to Worship Him by copying their own teachings" angle, after that its Barbaric Crap and the book says if a later verse contradicts an earlier verse you have to observe and follow the later verse.

Book says you can't pick and choose, either. What you follow (observe)and do not. To do so is to greatly disrespect God & The Prophet.

No Clue what those you know who claim to be faithful to Islam are actually Following....what Religion it is that they think that they are but they are not "Muslim" and in many countries they'd be made very very aware of this truth.
 

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