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He served his time, so give him another chance, I am ok with that. But I don't believe for one second that this guy has changed a bit. Just like Pac-Man, he will fvck up again and end up out of the league for good. This guy has been in making bad decisions his entire life, it is a part of his DNA. Distributing marijuana, flicking off fans, Ron Mexico, dogfighting, water bottle incident in airport, ect, ect. Think about how heinous this whole dogfighting incident was. This guy is completely soulless. Again, I am not saying that he does not deserve another chance, he does. He has paid his debt (well, some of them, creditors are probably pretty happy about the signing). But getting an endorsement from Tony Dungy is not enough to convince me that this is a good guy. Congrats Philly, your locker room has officially turn into a media circus.


beat me too it, i agree... i cant stand the people who are trumping him as a changed man, there was a report out that when he was speaking to a youth group in atlanta about whatever they "paid" him to speak about he was basically mailing it in, just there because he had too, i dont for one minute believed he changed.
 

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lets give a guy a "2nd chance" who has flipped off his fans in atlanta, then gets caught running a dogfighting ring for 6 years killing dogs, then gets a positive drug test for marijuana while awaiting sentencing for the whole dogfighting thing...

So, what should he only be allowed to work at McDonald's?

Personally, I think there are a lot people who are simply jealous.
 

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beat me too it, i agree... i cant stand the people who are trumping him as a changed man, there was a report out that when he was speaking to a youth group in atlanta about whatever they "paid" him to speak about he was basically mailing it in, just there because he had too, i dont for one minute believed he changed.

I won't disagree with you on this point, but should that bar him from playing in the NFL?
 

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never said he should be barred from the NFL, just people who are embracing him as a changed person are a little full of it, i wouldve loved Denver to sign him as he can change the game, if he can still play that is, but hes just not a good character guy, and he goes to a organization who said they only want good character guys... and no he cant work at mcdonalds, they have a 1 vick policy and Marcus beat him to it.
 

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Sir, w/all due respect I have to disagree.

Not sure of your line of work but mine would never come CLOSE TO A RE-HIRE...

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i give props to Vick for not reading from a prepared statement. I hate it when athletes do that. Sounds to fake and like their agent wrote it.

He spoke and did pretty well.
 

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My favorite is "I showed a lack of judgement"
No, a lack of judgement is running a red light at 60 MPH, thinking you can beat the yellow, premeditated murder of dogs is so beyond "lack of judgement"

And can the Eagles be anymore hypocritical, they have a history of waiving players that were involved in animal violations.
 

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and where in America can you get convicted of a felony, serve 2 years in jail, come out and make 1.6MM for the rest of this year and possibly 5MM next year?? The NFL of course..The National Felons League And no you can not work at McDonalds with a felony!
 

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and where in America can you get convicted of a felony, serve 2 years in jail, come out and make 1.6MM for the rest of this year and possibly 5MM next year?? The NFL of course..The National Felons League And no you can not work at McDonalds with a felony!


Frank Abignail would like to have a word.
 

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He served his time, so give him another chance, I am ok with that. But I don't believe for one second that this guy has changed a bit. Just like Pac-Man, he will fvck up again and end up out of the league for good. This guy has been in making bad decisions his entire life, it is a part of his DNA. Distributing marijuana, flicking off fans, Ron Mexico, dogfighting, water bottle incident in airport, ect, ect. Think about how heinous this whole dogfighting incident was. This guy is completely soulless. Again, I am not saying that he does not deserve another chance, he does. He has paid his debt (well, some of them, creditors are probably pretty happy about the signing). But getting an endorsement from Tony Dungy is not enough to convince me that this is a good guy. Congrats Philly, your locker room has officially turn into a media circus.

Well written. His brother proved your DNA point. Philly has long been the the second place skull and crossbone Raiders of the east. Sunday morning they will embrace the NFL Dungee rehabilitation god message (folding in coach Reid's personal struggles) and then drunken Sunday afternoon will cheer the outlaw prison side of Vick's Oakland biker character. Listen closely to Vick's talking points in today's presser. Vick skated and couched everything in 'lessons' and 'culture' and spewed the expected line of a media money 'sorry I got caught' athlete. For me, the dog deal still matters. I don't want predators or sick sociopaths or butterfly wing-pullers around my family or my TV. I agree that Vick served his time and should have an opportunity to make a living. I think his opportunities should include flipping hamburgers and not million's in NFL contracts. To Vick I would say," break a leg slime- you know how its done."
 

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Well written. His brother proved your DNA point. Philly has long been the the second place skull and crossbone Raiders of the east. Sunday morning they will embrace the NFL Dungee rehabilitation god message (folding in coach Reid's personal struggles) and then drunken Sunday afternoon will cheer the outlaw prison side of Vick's Oakland biker character. Listen closely to Vick's talking points in today's presser. Vick skated and couched everything in 'lessons' and 'culture' and spewed the expected line of a media money 'sorry I got caught' athlete. For me, the dog deal still matters. I don't want predators or sick sociopaths or butterfly wing-pullers around my family or my TV. I agree that Vick served his time and should have an opportunity to make a living. I think his opportunities should include flipping hamburgers and not million's in NFL contracts. To Vick I would say," break a leg slime- you know how its done."


Turnoff the TV.

Have you ever watched the rapist Jeramy Stevens play?

I love how everyone wants to be the morality police. Instead bitching and complaining. Speak up with your wallets. Don't watch NFL games, don't buy products from people that buy ad spots on during NFL games.
 

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Speaking of which, how much you want to bet the number 1 selling jersey come December will be a black (no racism implied here, so don't jump ugly on me) Vick jersey.(not green)
Because everyone knows black jerseys sell, why do you think the Mets went to black as a third uni?
 

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Turnoff the TV.

Have you ever watched the rapist Jeramy Stevens play?

I love how everyone wants to be the morality police. Instead bitching and complaining. Speak up with your wallets. Don't watch NFL games, don't buy products from people that buy ad spots on during NFL games.

Fortunately our country is governed by laws and morals not by TV ratings or stadium turnstiles. If a killer was roaming my neighborhood, should I turn off my TV because the killer was getting good ratings? Are you nuts?
 

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I'd say that analogy is pretty nuts.

Is a killer actually roaming your neighborhood and "getting good television ratings"?
 

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So, what should he only be allowed to work at McDonald's?

Personally, I think there are a lot people who are simply jealous.

Exactly. I've seen a few comments along the lines of "I've been unemployed for months. I'm begging for a job that pays $30k. Yet Vick is allowed to make millions?"

That's quite a leap. Projecting their personal struggles upon Vick.
 

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We live once,people do change.I myself am an example of that.If you think you cant take many different turns in life then you havent lived.I havent folewed Vick in his so I cant tell you if hes truelly changed.Im a Carolina fan and Vick has always been one of my top adversities.I will tell you that people can take many paths and its true.
Ive been down many different ones and if Im lucky will go down many more.Life is about difference so dont be isolated to your birthlife.Experience ,learn, respect, enjoy.
 

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Someone posted earlier in euphemistic fashion that "Vick can do what 99% of us cannot."

I understand his reference, but it's actually much longer odds than that.

He's able to do what less than 75 men in the entire North American continent can do.

To be fair, there's less than 40 million men in North America between the ages of 20 and 40. So it's about one in a half million who can qualify for the job for which Vick was hired
 

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Turnoff the TV.

Have you ever watched the rapist Jeramy Stevens play?

I love how everyone wants to be the morality police. Instead bitching and complaining. Speak up with your wallets. Don't watch NFL games, don't buy products from people that buy ad spots on during NFL games.

It would be good to get your facts straight. Jerramy Stevens was questioned in an ALLEGED rape that took place in 2000 and was never charged. You guys humor me sometimes with the accusations you throw around backed by zero fact.
 

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Well written. His brother proved your DNA point. Philly has long been the the second place skull and crossbone Raiders of the east. Sunday morning they will embrace the NFL Dungee rehabilitation god message (folding in coach Reid's personal struggles) and then drunken Sunday afternoon will cheer the outlaw prison side of Vick's Oakland biker character. Listen closely to Vick's talking points in today's presser. Vick skated and couched everything in 'lessons' and 'culture' and spewed the expected line of a media money 'sorry I got caught' athlete. For me, the dog deal still matters. I don't want predators or sick sociopaths or butterfly wing-pullers around my family or my TV. I agree that Vick served his time and should have an opportunity to make a living. I think his opportunities should include flipping hamburgers and not million's in NFL contracts. To Vick I would say," break a leg slime- you know how its done."

If an accountant making 100K a year gets a DUI should he also have to flip burgers?
 

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It would be good to get your facts straight. Jerramy Stevens was questioned in an ALLEGED rape that took place in 2000 and was never charged. You guys humor me sometimes with the accusations you throw around backed by zero fact.

EnFuego,

I know you always have intelligent posts, but just because he wasn't charged doesn't mean he didn't do it.

I will save you the rebuttal, I also know it doesn't mean he did it, but based on his track record and not having all the facts of the case avaiable, at this point I tend to believe the victim.
 

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