Manny Ramirez Tests Positive for performace enhancing drug gone 50 games

[Coaster]

That's fine. I'm not saying Barry never used. I'm saying nobody is innocent.

If every player that cheated should be thrown in the fire, then there would be no players left.

And beyond that, 37 Year old steroid Barry still hit more home runs than every other younger steroid using 3rd and 4th hitter in the line ups -- which, according to Conseco, was 90% of major league baseball. I think he still deserves some props for his achievements.

I appreciate your opinion just disagree.

Tell that last paragraph to your kid or nephew/neice.......see if it still sounds good!
"Johny if you take drugs, be better than the other boys and you will get props from Dad"
These are heros to children, get paid tons of dough.
When they phuck up throw 'em in the fire.
Then tell your children why!

 

[ChrisParadise]

I appreciate your opinion just disagree.

Tell that last paragraph to your kid or nephew/neice.......see if it still sounds good!
"Johny if you take drugs, be better than the other boys and you will get props from Dad"
These are heros to children, get paid tons of dough.
When they phuck up throw 'em in the fire.
Then tell your children why!

it aint about the kids at all.

its just haters that want to make an issue out of it because thier life sucks they cant stand the players making millions so they want to them them knocked down a few notches.

its not healthy for an attorney,banker,etc to sleep 3 hrs a day and works 80 hrs a week. but you can bet his father is proud of that "ambitious,dedicated hardworking son".

nearly every profession has unhealthy/advantage giving practices. how about the millions of office workers who stay geeked on coffee 5 days a week..that aint healthy either

 

[festeringZit]

Manny is lying.

He got caught taking a women's fertility drug, HCG.

The only reason he would be taking this, is to restart
his own testosterone after coming off a steroid cycle.

The bullshit about his doctor prescribing it for a personal
issue is a total lie.

Bye bye Hall of Fame Manny.

 

[Bennyshoe]

From ESPN.com

The Los Angeles Dodgers star said he did not take steroids and was prescribed medication by a doctor that contained a banned substance. The commissioner's office didn't announce the specific violation by the 36-year-old outfielder, who apologized to the Dodgers and fans for "this whole situation."

However, two sources told ESPN's T.J. Quinn and Mark Fainaru-Wada that the drug used by Ramirez is hCG -- human chorionic gonadotropin. HCG is a women's fertility drug typically used by steroid users to restart their body's natural testosterone production as they come off a steroid cycle. It is similar to Clomid, the drug Bonds, Giambi and others used as clients of BALCO.

A source with intimate knowledge of steroids told ESPN that a male athlete usually uses HCG after a cycle of steroids because steroids often shut down the testosterone-making ability of the testicles. HCG restores their capacity to make testosterone. The source said that some males may use HCG in lieu of steroids also. HCG by itself can provide a substantial boost in the bodies own testosterone, and this may provide some performance-enhancement benefits.

 

[ToddInVegas]

FZ is exactly right. Now you have to wonder how long he's been using PEDs. Is his whole career tainted, or just the last half? Its not like he's gone through a huge body change in the past couple of years. Gotta think its been something he's been doing for some period of time. Looks like Canseco, as crazy as he has become, is right on most of these guys.

 

[Bjizzle06]

festeringZit you love throwing the stones don't you? You throw the stones so fast, at such a high velocity, I think you should be tested for AAS.

Cyber roid-rage at it's best!

 

[Samhain]

Manny is lying.

He got caught taking a women's fertility drug, HCG.

The only reason he would be taking this, is to restart
his own testosterone after coming off a steroid cycle.

You are correct sir. Take this along with Clomid and Novadex to bring your Test levels back to normal.

 

[silver7]

Funny How The "Chickens Come Home To Roost"

This CS was a disgrace to the game, the way he dogged it in Boston. Could not be happier to see this ignorant asshole go down. As one ESPN guy said "Manny may be a lot of things, but smart ain't one of em"!!

 

[Bjizzle06]

I appreciate your opinion just disagree.

Tell that last paragraph to your kid or nephew/neice.......see if it still sounds good!
"Johny if you take drugs, be better than the other boys and you will get props from Dad"
These are heros to children, get paid tons of dough.
When they phuck up throw 'em in the fire.
Then tell your children why!

I appreciate the way you've conducted yourself in this discussion. As I'm sure you know, most people here with a negative opinion of a person have to be a douche bag about it, but you don't seem to fit into that category.

I'll agree to disagree with you. But I'd have to say that I think my child will grow up and realize that sometimes you have to risk bending/breaking the rules to get to the top. Virtually every successful person in this country has done it.

Tiger Woods got eye surgery and has perfect 20/15 eyesight.
Concert musicians take beta-blockers to take away nervousnes.
Cops take steroids.
Soldiers take speed to stay alert.
Men take sexual enhancements stay fuck like pornstars.
Truck drivers take speed to stay alert.
The bulk of people working long hours in the middle class take some variant of speed to stay alert.

and beyond all of that, atheletes under the gun to perform at a premium level at all times, or else lose their spot on the team, take performance enhancers too. It's just something I am comfortable accepting.

 

[ToddInVegas]

Bjizzle, should a player be allowed to cork his bat because he no longer has the home run power, or should a pitcher be allowed to put vaseline on a ball because he no longer has the velocity?

It could be argued that they should be allowed because "atheletes under the gun to perform at a premium level at all times, or else lose their spot on the team"

Of course nobody would support corked bats, or vaseline for pitchers. So why are some forms of cheating acceptable and others are not?

 

[romecloneout]

haha who cares if these guys cheat....would rather watch players hitting long home runs then singles

 

[ToddInVegas]

haha who cares if these guys cheat....would rather watch players hitting long home runs then singles

Ok, lets give them aluminium bats and watch 700 foot home runs.

PING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

[Bjizzle06]

Bjizzle, should a player be allowed to cork his bat because he no longer has the home run power, or should a pitcher be allowed to put vaseline on a ball because he no longer has the velocity?

It could be argued that they should be allowed because "atheletes under the gun to perform at a premium level at all times, or else lose their spot on the team"

Of course nobody would support corked bats, or vaseline for pitchers. So why are some forms of cheating acceptable and others are not?

If 90% of players are corking their bats, the officials are apparently turning a blind eye to it, and I'm at risk for losing my $$$ and spot on the roster if I don't get with the program, I'm going to act like the Romans when in Rome. So would you -- that is if you are man enough to do what it takes to take care of yourself and your family.

Obviously rules are in place, and they should not be broken. But I'm realistic enough to know that sometimes people do the wrong thing for the right reasons.

 

[billhill999]

This just goes to show you how good Barry Bonds was. No one can touch what he did 2001-2004. If he was on steroids his whole career, like A-Rod, he would of hit 1000 homers.

Bonds was on 'roids most of his career if not his entire career.
He was juicing like a mad man from 2001-2004, and the man who can tell you all about it won't because he's been paid millions by Barry to clam up.

 

[billhill999]

So I guess they were more than rumors about Manny juicing during his Fenway days.

 

[Bjizzle06]

Bonds was on 'roids most of his career if not his entire career.
He was juicing like a mad man from 2001-2004, and the man who can tell you all about it won't because he's been paid millions by Barry to clam up.

You know this as an absolute fact? So basically you're claiming to be God.

How much D-bol did he use a month? How many milligrams of Deca? Oh wait, you have no idea. Get real dude. Obviously Bonds juiced, just like the other vast majority of players in that era, and to what extent he juiced is purely a wild guess -- throwing darts at a dartboard with a blindfold.

 

[billhill999]

KIMBERLY BELL, BARRY BOND'S FORMER MISTRESS: What I'm familiar with is all of the changes that occurred in his body over the course of those years as a result of the intimate relationship that we did have.

RIVERA: Describe that would you Kimberly?

BELL: Some of the changes included everything from acne on his back to a great deal of bloating that he was very concerned about that other people would notice.

RIVERA: What do you mean concerned about? Did he mention to you he was afraid the fans or his teammates might notice a change in his body?

BELL: Absolutely, yes. And he wanted to know if I thought it was obvious. And that if I thought that other people would be aware of it.

RIVERA: And what did you answer?

BELL: I smiled politely and said no, everything was fine.

RIVERA: Did you ever experience any of what they call roid rage with Barry?

BELL: I have some experiences with that, yes. For example, if he was angry with something I would say or upset, he would be very quick to draw his hand back as if to hit me just to see me flinch so that he could laugh about it.

APHRODITE JONES, AUTHOR: What is interesting about that is that Barry Bonds changed his behavior with Kimberly Bell. She is with him from 1994 through 2003. And it wasn't until he allegedly admitted to her that he used steroids that his behavior started to change. And he became much more aggressive, much more controlling and became somewhat physical toward her in a way that was frightening to her and threatening to her.

 

[Bjizzle06]

LOL Ex-girlfriends would obviously never lie about you to throw dirt on your name out of spite. Please don't be that gullible.

 

[TomGshotput]

The biggest issue isn't that he tested positive, it is that he passed the drug test for four years

 

[billhill999]

LOL Ex-girlfriends would obviously never lie about you to throw dirt on your name out of spite. Please don't be that gullible.

Bell's words and Anderson's non words is proof enough, the only one gullible is you.
The Feds offered Anderson a sweetheart deal, but chose Barry's millions to clam up.