Looks Like James Is The Next Jordan

[HacheMan]

Ok boat, friendly debate here, but if you want to break it down like that, then here's the real truth.

There is a difference between and star/All-Star and a Superstar.
You have your Superstars who are best of the best..... Magic, Bird, Jordan, Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, etc.
Then you have your Stars who are better than the rest, but just a tier below the Superstars, such as guys like Steve Nash, Paul Pierce, Chris Paul, etc.

Ok.... Michael Jordan had basically 2 other stars in Pippen and Rodman who we will go ahead and consider a star.

Lebron had a 2 stars in Cleveland in Antawn Jamison and Mo Williams.

But NOW Lebron has a SUPERSTAR in Dwyane Wade and a Star in Chris Bosh playing beside him.

So how is that playing with less than what Jordan had??

In all reality, LeBron James ALREADY has more talent by his side than Jordan ever did.

And while we're at it I'll go ahead and be fair and say that Kobe has had the biggest advantage of the 3 with the ton of stars he's had by his side.

 

[boatboatboat]

Pippen was a top 50 player. MJ did great with him on the court. Without him, not so great.

Wade is also a top 50 player, Lebron does great with him on the court. Without Wade (cavs) lebron had the best regular season record one year and went to a finals another year.

MJ had a damn fine cast with the Bulls. Luke longley, Armstrong, Kerr, Horace Grant was a fine player too as was Paxton. It wasn't like it was MJ & pippen and chopped liver out there. Toss in a sure fire HOF coach............ The Bulls were loaded for bear, we know that.

I guess the biggest thing in my mind was that MJ had 3 years in NC under ANOTHER HOF coach to play against the top players in college prior to going to the NBA, and once MJ got to the NBA, look at the results his first few years prior to pippen. Nothing to brag about for sure. Lebron at age 19 shows up fresh from his Senior prom and right off that bat the Cavs a MUCH better team, and lebron is scoring 25 a night. At age 19.

Give this South Beach thing 3-4 years, and I think lebron will erase all doubt that he has a better ALL AROUND game then MJ. Mike due to his body shape looked "sleak" looked like he was flying. lebron is bulky, doesn't look quick, but watch the players around him as they go up and down the court. Lebron runs away from them. he has VERY long strides.

In a game of one on one, lebron would smash MJ like a bug. He covers as much court as quickly as MJ, and is twice as strong.

 

[82Guy]

Jordan is in a league of his own....and will remain so because he never played with the talent Lebron now has.both players have a different body and skill set, however, Id rather compare Lebron with Jordan than Kobe. They have more in common. They both struggled for 7 years before sniffing a championship, and their teams could not have survived without them....Kobe had it all laid out for him..needed Shaq, Gasol and corrupt refs to win his rings....and couldn't hack it on his own....Jordan is still GOAT because he did it at 31...and on. Kobe will not win in his 30's....What could Jordan have done if he had what Lebron now has, and Kobe always had at a younger age?

 

[PatsFan1283]

Ok boat, friendly debate here, but if you want to break it down like that, then here's the real truth.

There is a difference between and star/All-Star and a Superstar.
You have your Superstars who are best of the best..... Magic, Bird, Jordan, Lebron, Kobe, Shaq, etc.
Then you have your Stars who are better than the rest, but just a tier below the Superstars, such as guys like Steve Nash, Paul Pierce, Chris Paul, etc.

Ok.... Michael Jordan had basically 2 other stars in Pippen and Rodman who we will go ahead and consider a star.

Lebron had a 2 stars in Cleveland in Antawn Jamison and Mo Williams.

But NOW Lebron has a SUPERSTAR in Dwyane Wade and a Star in Chris Bosh playing beside him.

So how is that playing with less than what Jordan had??

In all reality, LeBron James ALREADY has more talent by his side than Jordan ever did.

And while we're at it I'll go ahead and be fair and say that Kobe has had the biggest advantage of the 3 with the ton of stars he's had by his side.

Comparing Pippen and Rodman to MoW and Jamison. Wow hache, its not that I never agree with you. Its that I think you never are remotely in the same ballpark of reality.

 

[boatboatboat]

HA-KEM- Ahhhhhh-LIE-JA-won (I can't spell worth a lick), is a player that never gets mentioned much when people talk about the all time greats, but for a brief window, he was as good as anyone in the NBA

 

[Fishhead]

JJGOLD is unreal ...........nice call JJ, he has a shot.

 

[boatboatboat]

Anyone who wants to start a gambling forum should on day 1 hire JJ. He creates traffic. Traffic = $. yes he comes with some baggage , damn does he come with some baggage............ but after the dust settles, his threads get clicked on, and from what I have seen he leaves the serious players/cappers/posters alone and just wallers in his sillydom.

I am all about JJ

 

[festeringZit]

Pippen was a top 50 player. MJ did great with him on the court. Without him, not so great.

Wade is also a top 50 player, Lebron does great with him on the court. Without Wade (cavs) lebron had the best regular season record one year and went to a finals another year.

MJ had a damn fine cast with the Bulls. Luke longley, Armstrong, Kerr, Horace Grant was a fine player too as was Paxton. It wasn't like it was MJ & pippen and chopped liver out there. Toss in a sure fire HOF coach............ The Bulls were loaded for bear, we know that.

I guess the biggest thing in my mind was that MJ had 3 years in NC under ANOTHER HOF coach to play against the top players in college prior to going to the NBA, and once MJ got to the NBA, look at the results his first few years prior to pippen. Nothing to brag about for sure. Lebron at age 19 shows up fresh from his Senior prom and right off that bat the Cavs a MUCH better team, and lebron is scoring 25 a night. At age 19.

Give this South Beach thing 3-4 years, and I think lebron will erase all doubt that he has a better ALL AROUND game then MJ. Mike due to his body shape looked "sleak" looked like he was flying. lebron is bulky, doesn't look quick, but watch the players around him as they go up and down the court. Lebron runs away from them. he has VERY long strides.

In a game of one on one, lebron would smash MJ like a bug. He covers as much court as quickly as MJ, and is twice as strong.

Um, you make a statement like that, and you look like a total fool.

 

[festeringZit]

Anyone who wants to start a gambling forum should on day 1 hire JJ. He creates traffic. Traffic = $. yes he comes with some baggage , damn does he come with some baggage............ but after the dust settles, his threads get clicked on, and from what I have seen he leaves the serious players/cappers/posters alone and just wallers in his sillydom.

I am all about JJ

JJ's video where he talked about and showed his 1" weenie was the funniest thing I've ever seen on here. Too bad I don't think it's available on here any more.

 

[1cheater]

JJ's video where he talked about and showed his 1" weenie was the funniest thing I've ever seen on here. Too bad I don't think it's available on here any more.

The one from his basement was classic too... lmao

 

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[boatboatboat]

Um, you make a statement like that, and you look like a total fool.

What would MJ do better? Box out? Rebound? Shoot from the arch? Power dunk?

You are thinking of age 30 MJ with Scottie beside him, lebron is 25 and getting BETTER all the time in every area of the game.

At this stage of their careers what did MJ do better than Lebron is doing?

 

[OnePocket]

The End

MJ- is/was a great motivator with his team mates.

MJ- knew how to WIN

MJ-could be named Mr.Finals

MJ-got voted the best athlete of the century.

Guess no one on this forum will live to year 2100 to see if LBJ gets voted best athlete of the century.

MJ- is the reason C.Barkley,K.Malone...etc...and many other's were all playing for 2nd place. And I know people will say none of these players in this era plays up to par as todays players, and thats complete BULL SHIT all those players from that era were as good as anyone in the league except MJ, and those same players(in their prime) could play with todays talent.

It don't matter if you"re built like a midget or a goat and you can do this or that....Until you know how to WIN none of the other talent hoopla don't mean shit.

M.Jordan had more talent,determination,skill,and the nuts and guts to want it more than any one on the court, and that's what made M.Jordan a Champion.

Man to Man with anyone that has ever played the game of Basketball (in their primes), would not be successful against M.Jordan.

M.Jordan could just mentally and physically wear any team down to where they just could not compete with MJ and his team mates, that's why the Chicago Bulls at the time were almost unbeatable.

LBJ- Is and will always be a great basketball player and some day be in the HOF, but he is no where in the same class as M.Jordan.

And some one mention that NIKE made M.Jordan who he is as a player...LOL.....NIKE may not be the company they are today if it wasn't for M.Jordan....M.Jordan made NIKE who they are. The man could have played in flip flops.

 

[boatboatboat]

MJ- is/was a great motivator with his team mates.

MJ- knew how to WIN

MJ-could be named Mr.Finals

M.Jordan had more talent,determination,skill,and the nuts and guts to want it more than any one on the court, and that's what made M.Jordan a Champion.

Man to Man with anyone that has ever played the game of Basketball (in their primes), would not be successful against M.Jordan.

Yet after playing at NC for 3 years and playing for a HOF coach, when he went to the NBA he didn't win shit until the bulls got pippen.

Funny how that works isn't it.

lebron playing right out of high school went to the finals and also had a season with the highest win total, with no one on the team NEAR as good as pippen or rodman.

 

[1cheater]

The End

MJ- is/was a great motivator with his team mates.

MJ- knew how to WIN

MJ-could be named Mr.Finals

MJ-got voted the best athlete of the century.

Guess no one on this forum will live to year 2100 to see if LBJ gets voted best athlete of the century.

MJ- is the reason C.Barkley,K.Malone...etc...and many other's were all playing for 2nd place. And I know people will say none of these players in this era plays up to par as todays players, and thats complete BULL SHIT all those players from that era were as good as anyone in the league except MJ, and those same players(in their prime) could play with todays talent.

It don't matter if you"re built like a midget or a goat and you can do this or that....Until you know how to WIN none of the other talent hoopla don't mean shit.

M.Jordan had more talent,determination,skill,and the nuts and guts to want it more than any one on the court, and that's what made M.Jordan a Champion.

Man to Man with anyone that has ever played the game of Basketball (in their primes), would not be successful against M.Jordan.

M.Jordan could just mentally and physically wear any team down to where they just could not compete with MJ and his team mates, that's why the Chicago Bulls at the time were almost unbeatable.

LBJ- Is and will always be a great basketball player and some day be in the HOF, but he is no where in the same class as M.Jordan.

And some one mention that NIKE made M.Jordan who he is as a player...LOL.....NIKE may not be the company they are today if it wasn't for M.Jordan....M.Jordan made NIKE who they are. The man could have played in flip flops.

Very well said...

 

[1cheater]

Yet after playing at NC for 3 years and playing for a HOF coach, when he went to the NBA he didn't win shit until the bulls got pippen.

Funny how that works isn't it.

lebron playing right out of high school went to the finals and also had a season with the highest win total, with no one on the team NEAR as good as pippen or rodman.

Are you kidding me? MJ made, taught and mentored Scottie Pippen... Pippen was nothing without Jordan. Pippen may have helped Jordan, but that was after Pippen matured in the hands and support of Jordan.

 

[festeringZit]

What would MJ do better? Box out? Rebound? Shoot from the arch? Power dunk?

You are thinking of age 30 MJ with Scottie beside him, lebron is 25 and getting BETTER all the time in every area of the game.

At this stage of their careers what did MJ do better than Lebron is doing?

You're taking the greatest basketball player of all time and saying
Lebron would squash him like a bug. I can't waste my time with such idiocy.
Maybe someone else in here has the time to waste.

 

[HacheMan]

What would MJ do better? Box out? Rebound? Shoot from the arch? Power dunk?

You are thinking of age 30 MJ with Scottie beside him, lebron is 25 and getting BETTER all the time in every area of the game.

At this stage of their careers what did MJ do better than Lebron is doing?

They both can jump out of the rim, they both can rebound and assist, they both play solid defense but Jordan more so as he was All-Defensive team every year.

But a couple of the key things Jordan had that Lebron doesn't have and probably never will:

Jordan had a killer outside shot... Lebron does not

Michael Jordan did it ALL
If God ever made the perfect basketball player, it was him.

Jordan had an unstoppable post-up game..... Lebron does not

All Lebron basially does is drive and dunk..... drives and layup.......

And all of those last second shots Lebron always misses............ Jordan usually hit them

The CLOSEST we've seen to even make comparisons to Jordan is Kobe Bryant, before he started fading recently...