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Promiseher America​

Age:3 years old - FillyStatus:ActivePedigree:American Pharoah - Promisedyouheaven by [Add Data]Owner(s):Hoffman Thoroughbreds, McCrocklin, Tom F. and Medallion RacingTrainer:Raymond HandalBred:Kentucky, US by Robert Low & Lawana Low

Promiseher America is a 3 year old filly and has raced from 2022 to 2023. She was sired by American Pharoah out of the [Add Data] mare Promisedyouheaven. She was trained by Raymond Handal and has raced for Hoffman Thoroughbreds, McCrocklin, Tom F. and Medallion Racing, and was bred in Kentucky, United States by Robert Low & Lawana Low. Promiseher America has raced and won at Aqueduct. Her has a stakes win at the 2023 Gazelle (G3).

 

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And Tell Me Nolies​

Age:3 years old - FillyStatus:ActivePedigree:Arrogate - Be Fair by Exchange RateOwner(s):peter Redekop B. C., Ltd.Trainer:peter MillerBred:Kentucky, US by Lara Run, LLC

And Tell Me Nolies is a 3 year old filly and has raced from 2022 to 2023. She was sired by Arrogate out of the Exchange Rate mare Be Fair. She was trained by Peter Miller and has raced for Peter Redekop B. C., Ltd., and was bred in Kentucky, United States by Lara Run, LLC. And Tell Me Nolies has raced at Del Mar, Keeneland, Santa Anita with wins at Del Mar, Santa Anita. Her stakes wins include wins in the 2022 Chandelier (G2), and the 2022 Del Mar Debutante (G1).

 

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Flying Connection​

Age:3 years old - FillyStatus:ActivePedigree:Nyquist - Free Flying Soul by Quiet AmericanOwner(s):King, Brad, Andrews, Randy, Coleman, G. Chris, Cone, Jim, Kirby, Suzanne and Lewis, LeeTrainer:Todd FincherBred:Kentucky, US by Liberty Road Stables

Flying Connection is a 3 year old filly and has raced from 2022 to 2023. She was sired by Nyquist out of the Quiet American mare Free Flying Soul. She was trained by Todd Fincher and has raced for King, Brad, Andrews, Randy, Coleman, G. Chris, Cone, Jim, Kirby, Suzanne and Lewis, Lee, and was bred in Kentucky, United States by Liberty Road Stables. Flying Connection has raced at Del Mar, Sunland Park, Zia Park with wins at Sunland Park, Zia Park. Her stakes wins include wins in the 2023 Sunland Park Oaks (LS), 2023 Island Fashion (LS), and the 2022 Zia Park Princess (LS).

 

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Defining Purpose​

Age:3 years old - FillyStatus:ActivePedigree:Cross Traffic - Defining Hope by Strong HopeOwner(s):Magdalena Racing (Sherri McPeek) and Vanmatre, Colette MarieTrainer:Kenneth McPeekBred:Kentucky, US by Colette Marie VanMatre

Defining Purpose is a 3 year old filly and has raced from 2022 to 2023. She was sired by Cross Traffic out of the Strong Hope mare Defining Hope. She was trained by Kenneth McPeek and has raced for Magdalena Racing (Sherri McPeek) and Vanmatre, Colette Marie, and was bred in Kentucky, United States by Colette Marie VanMatre. Defining Purpose has raced at Churchill Downs, Keeneland, Oaklawn Park with wins at Churchill Downs, Keeneland, Oaklawn Park. Her stakes wins include wins in the 2023 Ashland (G1), and the 2022 Year's End (LS).

 

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Dorth Vader​

Age:3 years old - FillyStatus:ActivePedigree:Girvin - Hardcore Candy by YonaguskaOwner(s):John RopesTrainer:Michael YatesBred:Florida, US by John Ropes

Dorth Vader is a 3 year old filly and has raced from 2022 to 2023. She was sired by Girvin out of the Yonaguska mare Hardcore Candy. She was trained by Michael Yates and has raced for John Ropes, and was bred in Florida, United States by John Ropes. Dorth Vader has raced at Gulfstream Park, Tampa Bay Downs with wins at Gulfstream Park, Tampa Bay Downs. Her stakes wins include wins in the 2023 Davona Dale (G2), 2022 Sandpiper (LS), and the 2022 Juvenile Fillies Sprint (RS).

 

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Affirmative Lady​

Age:3 years old - FillyStatus:ActivePedigree:Arrogate - Stiffed by Stephen Got EvenOwner(s):AMO Racing USATrainer:H. MotionBred:Kentucky, US by Alastar Thoroughbred Co, LLC

Affirmative Lady is a 3 year old filly and has raced from 2022 to 2023. She was sired by Arrogate out of the Stephen Got Even mare Stiffed. She was trained by H. Motion and has raced for AMO Racing USA, and was bred in Kentucky, United States by Alastar Thoroughbred Co, LLC. Affirmative Lady has raced and won at Aqueduct, Gulfstream Park, Keeneland. Her has a stakes win at the 2023 Gulfstream Park Oaks (G2).

 

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Pretty Mischievous​

Age:3 years old - FillyStatus:ActivePedigree:Into Mischief - Pretty City Dancer by TapitOwner(s):Godolphin, LLCTrainer:Brendan WalshBred:Kentucky, US by Godolphin

Pretty Mischievous is a 3 year old filly and has raced from 2022 to 2023. She was sired by Into Mischief out of the Tapit mare Pretty City Dancer . She was trained by Brendan Walsh and has raced for Godolphin, LLC, and was bred in Kentucky, United States by Godolphin. Pretty Mischievous has raced at Churchill Downs, Fair Grounds with wins at Churchill Downs, Fair Grounds. Her stakes wins include wins in the 2023 Rachel Alexandra (G2), and the 2022 Untapable (LS).

 

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Super Bowl MVP Patrick Mahomes to give 'Riders Up' command for 149th Kentucky Derby​

 

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Churchill Downs to work with investigators after 4 horse deaths.​

LOUISVILLE, Ky. -- The death of four horses at Churchill Downs over a span of five days has overshadowed preparations for the Kentucky Derby.
Two horses trained by Saffie Joseph Jr. collapsed on the track and died over the past week. Two other horses also died as either a result of racing or training, including Derby entrant Wild On Ice.
Joseph is set to saddle Lord Miles in the first jewel of the Triple Crown on Saturday. But he has said he's unsure of plans after the two deaths from his barn.
Churchill Downs Racetrack, in a statement Wednesday, expressed concern over the deaths and said officials would press for answers.
"While a series of events like this is highly unusual, it is completely unacceptable," Churchill Downs said. "We take this very seriously and acknowledge that these troubling incidents are alarming and must be addressed. We feel a tremendous responsibility to our fans, the participants in our sport and the entire industry to be a leader in safety and continue to make significant investments to eliminate risk to our athletes."
The deaths happening in different manners points to factors beyond the racing surface.
There was no cause of death immediately available for either of Joseph's horses, 4-year-old Parents Pride, who died after a race Saturday, and 5-year-old Chasing Artie, who died after a race Tuesday.
Wild On Ice and 3-year-old filly Take Charge Briana broke down with musculoskeletal injuries during training or racing and each was transported to Rood & Riddle Equine Hospital for assessment before being euthanized.
Wild On Ice was trained by Joel Marr, and Take Charge Briana by Hall of Famer D. Wayne Lukas.
Joseph told reporters at the track Wednesday that blood work showed nothing out of the ordinary.
"When you don't know something, that's when it worries you the most," Joseph said. "Something is wrong. A lot of thoughts run through your head, but you can drive yourself insane. But I'm very uneasy right now. It's not something I would wish on anybody."
The deaths brought back unpleasant memories of 2019, when 42 horses died at Santa Anita Park in California before reforms were instituted.
California and New York, which hosts the Belmont Stakes, each have thorough reporting requirements and a database cataloging equine injuries and fatalities, while Kentucky does not.
 
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I read today on DRF that Saffie Joseph may not run any more horses this week if they don’t figure out what happened. He had a filly scheduled to run on the turf today and she was scratched. He has a horse scheduled to run in race 3 tomorrow and a filly to run Friday in race 1. Hopefully everything works out and his horse Lord Miles runs in the Derby.
 

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I read today on DRF that Saffie Joseph may not run any more horses this week if they don’t figure out what happened. He had a filly scheduled to run on the turf today and she was scratched. He has a horse scheduled to run in race 3 tomorrow and a filly to run Friday in race 1. Hopefully everything works out and his horse Lord Miles runs in the Derby.
Who do you like in both races?
You come up with anything yet?
 
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Who do you like in both races?
You come up with anything yet?
I haven’t completed my handicapping yet but I do have a couple future wagers on Rocket Can(124-1) and Two Phils(99-1) from pool 1. So, I’m definitely rooting for those 2. Rocket Can has the speed to get great position from post 18 and the pedigree to get the Derby distance. Blinkers on could make the difference. Two Phil’s breaks from post 3 but I think will sit off the pace and get a good rail trip saving ground and be closing fast in the stretch.

Pletcher probably has the 3 best horses with Forte, Tapit Trice and Kingsbarn but Pletcher just doesn’ t win the Derby. Ok he has won twice in 62 attempts, but both of those were on sloppy tracks. Forte is definitely the one to beat but he will be 5-2 or 3-1 probably. Of the 3, Kingsbarn is the one I’ll probably bet if I bet one of his horses. I think Tapit Trice will be better suited for the Belmont.
 

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I haven’t completed my handicapping yet but I do have a couple future wagers on Rocket Can(124-1) and Two Phils(99-1) from pool 1. So, I’m definitely rooting for those 2. Rocket Can has the speed to get great position from post 18 and the pedigree to get the Derby distance. Blinkers on could make the difference. Two Phil’s breaks from post 3 but I think will sit off the pace and get a good rail trip saving ground and be closing fast in the stretch.

Pletcher probably has the 3 best horses with Forte, Tapit Trice and Kingsbarn but Pletcher just doesn’ t win the Derby. Ok he has won twice in 62 attempts, but both of those were on sloppy tracks. Forte is definitely the one to beat but he will be 5-2 or 3-1 probably. Of the 3, Kingsbarn is the one I’ll probably bet if I bet one of his horses. I think Tapit Trice will be better suited for the Belmont.
Good luck Charlie.
Looking forward.
 
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Good morning from Churchill Downs where it’s a bit chilly to start the day but gorgeous weather is on tap this afternoon for Thurby. See you at the track!

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