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wow…. He was #10

10-18-12 paid $133,134.80 for $2….$33,000 for a 1/2 a buck….
 

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Wild On Ice was injured during training at Churchill this morning and was euthanized. Skinner will now be entered into the Derby. Condolences to the connections of Wild On Ice.
 

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Will be interesting to see what some of these owners sitting just outside the top 20 decide to do. Cyclone Mischief owners have said they would like to run in the Pat Day mile on the undercard if they don’t make the derby. But the rules state you can only enter one race on Kentucky Derby day. They would be first on AE list right now so they have a tough decision.
The owners of King Russell have stated they will enter the Derby even if they are the last AE(which they would be right now if they have 4AE which I heard they will). If for some reason King Russell does not make it to the AE list for Derby, they will run him in an allowance race on Derby day. I think King Russell would be a very live longshot if he gets in. Going to a busy weekend for the owners of some horses.
 

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There have been three fillies to win the derby Regret in 1915, Genuine Risk in 1980, and Winning Colors in 1988.
 

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Over 120,000 mint juleps are said to be consumed at the derby each year.

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11 to toss: These horses will not win Kentucky Derby 2023.​

Confidence Game: Since 1929, the longest layoff for any Kentucky Derby winner has been seven weeks. He will be entering the Kentucky Derby off of a 10-week layoff. His best race came in the Rebel Stakes (G2) over a sloppy track at 18-1. The layoff will likely prove too much to overcome for a runner a step below the elite of his crop.

Continuar: Horses exiting the UAE Derby (G2) are 0-for-18 lifetime in the Kentucky Derby. Not only would he have to buck historical trends, but he has proven multiple times that he is not quite as good as fellow Japanese import Derma Sotogake. It is hard to imagine him turning the tables on Derma Sotogake, not to mention defeating the rest of the field.

Disarm: His Louisiana Derby (G2) was a decent effort when rallying behind a slow pace, but his Lexington Stakes (G3) effort was very disappointing. He has yet to defeat a solid 3-year-old and appears to be a notch below the cream of this crop.

Hit Show: He had the most potential of any runner entered in the Wood Memorial (G2) and was expected to win comfortably against a soft field. Instead he was defeated by a 59-1 shot while narrowly holding off a maiden for second. The Wood Memorial has been a very poor prep race in recent memory and this year is no exception.

Jace's Road: He looked good winning the Gun Runner Stakes, but three of his last four races have been subpar performances as he has not shown the ability to pass horses. There is no reason to expect dramatic improvement in this spot.

Lord Miles: His win in the Wood Memorial was the product of a good trip against a subpar field. He was non-competitive in two prior preps and even a repeat of his surprising Wood Memorial win would not be good enough to contend.

Raise Cain: He looked good against a below-average field in the slop in the Gotham Stakes (G3) at 23-1, but the rest of his fast-track form shows that this runner can not compete with the best of his crop. His recent fifth-place finish in the Blue Grass Stakes (G1) left plenty to be desired.

Reincarnate: This honest and consistent horse was defeated by Confidence Game and Angel of Empire in his last two races and the competition only gets tougher here. He had no real excuse when finishing in a blanket finish for minor awards in the Arkansas Derby (G1) behind the runaway winner.

Sun Thunder: He will come running late to pass a few horses, but is hard to endorse off of his fourth in the Louisiana Derby and his fifth in the Rebel. He does not seem to be improving enough to contend.

Two Phil's: Though he was ultra impressive in the Jeff Ruby Steaks (G3) on a synthetic track, he has repeatedly shown that he is not as effective on the dirt. With his two best races coming over a sloppy track and a synthetic surface, it is hard to trust the strength of his main track form.

Verifying: This colt is the most talented runner on this list, but he is coming off of a grueling effort and if he could not hold off Tapit Trice with a perfect trip in the Blue Grass, it is hard to imagine him defeating that runner at a longer distance with more pace pressure.
 

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Rich Strike, last years Kentucky Derby winner, is expected to be entered in the G2 Alysheba Stakes on the undercard of Kentucky Oaks Friday.
 

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