Israeli casualties in Iraq ???????

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Pats- So are people dumb if they think the US supports Israel?

I am not Pats, but i presume you are talking to me. And people would be foolish to think that the US isnt a huge supporter of israel.

But there are many people (who aren't in bed with Israel) who think that Israel is an important strategic ally of the US.

And while the US gives Israel alot of money, if you check the records you would see that Israel also gives a ton to the palestinians, pakistanis, lebanase and they have already given billions to rebuild Iraq.

And don't think for a second that our problems with Muslim terrorists would end if we stopped helping Israel.
 

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Israel wouldn't have had as many body bags because they wouldn't have cared about the post iraq mess. They would have invaded quickly and desicively and takend out saddam and his military..

Yeah sure they would

Of course they would not because there's no need for them do anything when they've got the US military working for them at absolutely no cost.
 

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Yeah sure they would

Of course they would not because there's no need for them do anything when they've got the US military working for them at absolutely no cost.

are you saying that america went to war with Iraq for israel?
 

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That is not what I'm saying.

What I "am" saying is in response to the OP's somewhat rhetorical question.

That is, the reason there are no Israeli casualties in Iraq is because they had no need to participate in either the invasion or the occupation of Iraq.
 

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A silly thread.

Who's stopping Israel from bombing the shit out of every country in the middle east on a whim?

America is.


Every time an Israeli soldier stubs his toe on some terrorist palestinian kids toy there's a risk of the F-16s being sent in to avenge the outrage.
 

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The reason Israel isn't in Iraq is b/c other muslim countries would get involved to kill the 'great satan'. Exact same reason why they didn't shoot missles back at Iraq. Kuwait and Jordon would not have allowed us in their countries.


Exactly. They're not Iraq because we didn't ask them to help. In fact, we basically ordered them NOT to help. Just like the first Gulf War where they were attacked by Saddam. They wanted to retaliate, but we told them NO!
 

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It is easy to say what you would love to do, and not love to do, but the bottom line is the rest of the world is fighting their battles for them.


I was pondering "fairness" and " who does it benefit"... silly me. In busines, some people say " follow the money".

I seldom get personal, but what an ignorant statement. There is no country in the world that has suffered more at the hands of terrorists than Israel.

You make it sound like Israel never takes military action. Of course, every time they do use military force to defend themselves, the whole world rallies to the side of their opponent.

What an idiot. (Sorry, Wil, but I can't help it.)
 

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That is not what I'm saying.

What I "am" saying is in response to the OP's somewhat rhetorical question.

That is, the reason there are no Israeli casualties in Iraq is because they had no need to participate in either the invasion or the occupation of Iraq.

But that is a false premise. Israel is not in Iraq because they are not allowed in Iraq and not because "they had no need to participate". The retarded point OP was trying to make was that somehow israel does not want to do the leg work and that they are letting america do all the dirty work.

Israel would want to do alot more of the dirty work in that region but are being restrained from doing so by outside influences (UN/Europe/UN/Moderate Middle Eastern countries).
 

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Well that's where we disagree, which is fair between the two of us.

I believe that in fact Israel is staying out not because of being "restrained" but quite simply because their goals (of racking on the Hussein regime) have been achieved by the US military without their having to put any of their own at risk.

It certainly makes for decent public relations to kayfabe and act is if they would be right on the scene if not 'restrained". But it's all an act.

And a rather sensible one on the part of Israel, I'll acknowledge.
 

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I'm not sure what I believe, but I never see the media address this.

I'd tend to agree with Barman in the most recent statements ( what a shock), and I don't appreciate the comments from mamatried... and I disagree with Primetime21.
 

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CGOLD, if we continue to collectively throw our darts at the board, sooner or later we're bound to end up on the same number

All good....With 20 numbers on the board, we've got plenty of other ways to be on different sides.
 

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That is not what I'm saying.

What I "am" saying is in response to the OP's somewhat rhetorical question.

That is, the reason there are no Israeli casualties in Iraq is because they had no need to participate in either the invasion or the occupation of Iraq.


This is what I am agreeing with.
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Well that's where we disagree, which is fair between the two of us.

I believe that in fact Israel is staying out not because of being "restrained" but quite simply because their goals (of racking on the Hussein regime) have been achieved by the US military without their having to put any of their own at risk.

It certainly makes for decent public relations to kayfabe and act is if they would be right on the scene if not 'restrained". But it's all an act.

And a rather sensible one on the part of Israel, I'll acknowledge.

The difference i have with you is that whether Israel would want to send troops to Iraq or not is not the issue. They are simply NOT ALLOWED to go. So whether they are receiving some great free benefit or not can be debated, however, i don't think anyone can suggest that it is part of some plan of theirs.

Yeah, maybe they are sitting back and saying "thank god the americans are doing our dirty work," but if it isn't their doing, then who really cares?
 

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So let me ask you this...

If Israel said they are sending 10,000 soldiers to stabilize a region in Iraq, or fight in Afganistan, you think the coalition forces would say no? What if the "insisted" and send 10,000 troops? Would we force them not to?
 

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I'm not sure what I believe, but I never see the media address this.

I'd tend to agree with Barman in the most recent statements ( what a shock), and I don't appreciate the comments from mamatried... and I disagree with Primetime21.

My problem with you is the title of the thread. It suggests that the lack of any israeli casualties is part of some plan by the israelis when (as i have said before) the Israelis have no choice but to sit the war out.
 

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So let me ask you this...

If Israel said they are sending 10,000 soldiers to stabilize a region in Iraq, or fight in Afganistan, you think the coalition forces would say no? What if the "insisted" and send 10,000 troops? Would we force them not to?

They would absolutely say no. Its not even a question. And i agree, that Israel should be contributing soldiers and whatever resources the coalition forces asked of them, but there is no way it would be allowed.
 

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They would absolutely say no. Its not even a question. And i agree, that Israel should be contributing soldiers and whatever resources the coalition forces asked of them, but there is no way it would be allowed.


I am not talking about defending your own land. If there are guards in front of the white house, or at the english royal palace, are they fighting terrorism?


My point is where are the Israeli troops in Iraq?
 

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c-gold thinks he understands middle eastern politics...but he doesnt

pretty simple
 

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