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and just like that.. RG3 has been benched, guy is done. at least his teammates will be happy though.
 

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Gruden has shown he's way over his head. I'm normally against firing a coach after one season but this guy has already shown enough for me to see its time to move on.

You just do not say some of the things he says to the media about the QB.
Even if he's not is good as cousins

This. Benching RG3 is asinine. Yes, he's playing like crap, but he did what he did in his rookie season, and if used correctly, as has been stated in this thread, he still has a big future. Get him out of the pocket. Play him to his strengths, not some pre conceived notion of a "pocket passer". Playing proven trash like Colt McCoy, or a non entity like Cousins is ridiculous for a team where the Redskins are in the standings at this point in the season. What does Gruden hope to accomplish, besides devaluing RG3 for any possible trade? Some team next year is gonna get lucky taking RG3 off Wash hands on the cheap, if they stupidly retain Gruden as Coach. His brother's main weakness as a HC was his indecisiveness and constantly waffling about QB. It appears it's a Gruden family trait. I would expect the J-E-T-S and whoever their new HC will be, to be major players in any RG3 transaction.
 

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I live here in the DC area and sports radio is priceless!! First off, Redskins fans still think it's the early 90's! They talk as if they are among the elite franchises (current) and bash the other 3-13, 4-12 teams as if it's an abberation that they are having a sub-par year. The RG3 talk has taken a huge nose dive this season. The fans are done w/ him. There are a few stragglers, but for the most part the fan base is ready to move on.

As an outsider that sees more Redskins football than I'd like, they have a few issues. #1 is the owner. #2 is player personnel/GM. They need O-lineman as bad as any team in the league. The only player they've taken at OL in the first round in the last 10 years is an All-Pro. They should commit to using their highest draft pick (or two) over the next 5 years to taking OL or DL....and build around that.

I think Jason Campbell was in a situation similar to RG3 - he was a decent QB (as good or better than RG3, just not as hyped coming out of college), who played behind a crap OL.

The problem the fans have is that RG3 doesn't know how to get rid of the ball...and keeps getting sacked in ridiculously high numbers (i.e. he hasn't learned the basics of being an NFL QB). Even Cousins & McCoy, when they played, were sacked much less than RG3's rate of sacks per attempt.

Redskins need an OL before they'll ever compete again in the NFL. They can keep bringing in coach after coach, and they won't improve. Peyton or Brady could play behind this OL and stink!
 
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Noooooo, don't bench him the week they play the colts...Play him and let him drop back 40 times this game.

Oh well, colts will still trounce skins and to think they once asked who would be better Luck or RG 42. My Gawd.

Does a team bring him in next year as their starter or back up......Still out of the league def. before age 30. I knew he was garbage.
 
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Play RG 42 so you can get a high draft pick since you haven't had one in 3 years...Dumbasses. It amazes me how a billionaire can be that stupid. What in RG 42 said "franchise qb"....He is mentally weak and stupid...That alone makes you suck.
 
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What's your point? RG3 had a bad year also. And he was playing after knee surgery unlike flacco and eli. Just stating that his numbers weren't as bad as you are making them unless you are trying to compare him to Manning or Rodgers. Otherwise, his numbers perfectly reflected a starting qb in the NFL. All with an injury riddled receiving core and no O'line and an absolutely atrocious defense. You are crazy.

And I've said RG3 was better than cousins about 100 times the past 3 years. Just once I said after the Philly game that Cousins "could" be better than RG3 for this team. Most of which was because his lack of being able to stay healthy and hope that we had a chance this year. I was 100% right for 99% of Cousins career, and 100% wrong for that one lapse of judgement.

Glad that's all you focus on, lol. RG3 is an elite NFL QB when healthy. There is no questions about that.


You can't believe that. He is garbage and only won Rookie of the year because he is black and the NFL media will take an average black quarterback and go out of their way to make him appear great (see Russell Wilson although mixed and Kaepernick)
 

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RG3 is an elite NFL QB when healthy. There is no questions about that.


:):)

That is preposterous even by your standards.

"Elite" NFL QB's:

Peyton Manning
Tom Brady
Andrew Luck
Big Ben
Drew Brees
Aaron Rodgers

Note: RG3 isn't on that list. RG3 isn't close to that list. He (RG3) would be behind Romo, Flacco, Rivers, Eli Manning, Andy Dalton, Tannehill, and Russell Wilson.
 

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This. Benching RG3 is asinine. Yes, he's playing like crap, but he did what he did in his rookie season, and if used correctly, as has been stated in this thread, he still has a big future. Get him out of the pocket. Play him to his strengths, not some pre conceived notion of a "pocket passer". Playing proven trash like Colt McCoy, or a non entity like Cousins is ridiculous for a team where the Redskins are in the standings at this point in the season. What does Gruden hope to accomplish, besides devaluing RG3 for any possible trade? Some team next year is gonna get lucky taking RG3 off Wash hands on the cheap, if they stupidly retain Gruden as Coach. His brother's main weakness as a HC was his indecisiveness and constantly waffling about QB. It appears it's a Gruden family trait. I would expect the J-E-T-S and whoever their new HC will be, to be major players in any RG3 transaction.


Maybe he hopes to accomplish moving on from someone he doesn't think is good?

I'd probably just play him too at this point since there isn't really anymore to lose, but he does suck so it's kinda moot.
 

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Sorry, I missed Matt Ryan & Stafford. They are both better QB's than RGIII

Anyway:

Benching signals end of Griffin's career - at least in Washington


As the Nos. 1 and 2 overall picks in their respective draft classes, Andrew Luck and Robert Griffin III forever will be linked in NFL history like fellow quarterbacks Peyton Manning and Ryan Leaf.
Luck's career is on the same upward trajectory as Manning during his early days in Indianapolis. Unfortunately for Griffin, his path is looking eerily similar to the one that led Leaf out of the league in just four seasons.

News thatGriffin will be benched in favor of journeyman Colt McCoy for Sunday's game at Indianapolis is a damning indictment not only about his future in Washington but also the NFL as a whole.

In theory, the Redskins (3-8) should be playing Griffin for the remainder of this lost season to determine whether he can recapture his old magic and again be considered their franchise quarterback.


Sitting him now makes it obvious that decision already was made.

Griffin's fall from grace is among the biggest the league ever witnessed.

http://www.msn.com/en-us/sports/nfl...fins-career-at-least-in-washington/ar-BBfXNfQ

^ That sort of thing happens to "elite" NFL QB's all the time.
 

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This. Benching RG3 is asinine. Yes, he's playing like crap, but he did what he did in his rookie season, and if used correctly, as has been stated in this thread, he still has a big future. Get him out of the pocket. Play him to his strengths, not some pre conceived notion of a "pocket passer". Playing proven trash like Colt McCoy, or a non entity like Cousins is ridiculous for a team where the Redskins are in the standings at this point in the season. What does Gruden hope to accomplish, besides devaluing RG3 for any possible trade? Some team next year is gonna get lucky taking RG3 off Wash hands on the cheap, if they stupidly retain Gruden as Coach. His brother's main weakness as a HC was his indecisiveness and constantly waffling about QB. It appears it's a Gruden family trait. I would expect the J-E-T-S and whoever their new HC will be, to be major players in any RG3 transaction.

LMFAO the Jets need another Vick and Geno like they need a hole in their head.

RG3 has zero trade value. he'll be cut this offseason or next and can be had for free at that point.

the best he'll be able to do is make someone's depth chart for league minimum.
 
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I seriously can not believe anyone thought RG version 42 would amount to even an average qb.

Mentally weak
Stupid
Runs too much
Bad work ethic
Injury prone
Only throws short passes



There is a reason every superior quarterback in the NFL has been white. Someone recently compared learning and understanding an NFL playbook to getting a law degree. I know I know, RG42 had an offer to Stanford. He must be smart.
 
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LMFAO the Jets need another Vick and Geno like they need a hole in their head.

RG3 has zero trade value. he'll be cut this offseason or next and can be had for free at that point.

the best he'll be able to do is make someone's depth chart for league minimum.


Jets have a solid defense.

Why do they suck? Your 3 qb's are Geno Smith, Michael Vick, and Taj Boyd.


Draft a qb every year...If you have a great qb, you will compete...This stuff is not hard.
 

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What is the 42 for?

Also it was Young that said the law degree. Said first 3 years is like going to law school.
 
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What is the 42 for?

Also it was Young that said the law degree. Said first 3 years is like going to law school.

The 42nd version of the same shit i see year in and year out.....Jameis Winston is RG 43....These billionares just don't understand...NFL offenses are complicated.I am a colts fan so not a Brady fan but I can admit he is great. He has intelligence, work ethic, accuracy....I went to the Pats/ colts game 2 weeks ago...Pats fans were well behaved...The colts got their ass beat in.
 

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Gruden has shown he's way over his head. I'm normally against firing a coach after one season but this guy has already shown enough for me to see its time to move on.

You just do not say some of the things he says to the media about the QB.
Even if he's not is good as cousins

Yeah Bengal fans were glad when he left was over his head as OC
 

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