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16 TDs in 13 games, 23rd in QB rating and if I wanted to dig I could find more. I mean he didn't play well last year then in training camp the offense struggled. That is why someone else had an opportunity to flatout take his job the last 3 weeks. Cousins didn't do it but if your job is up for grabs like that as a franchise QB, it probably is a reflection of a major loss of confidence in you as a player (especially considering the massive investment the Skins have in him)

Maybe he'll comeback and ride off into the sunset as the player everyone thought he was going to be after his rookie year, I just doubt it. Obviously a lot of people agree if someone like Kirk Cousins had a chance to plant him on the bench in the first place

There was no question about taking his job other than his ability to be healthy. There was literally no plans for the Redskins to bench him this year over performance issues. You talking crazy.
 

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Flacco and Eli had awful years last year. I can't believe you would even cite that.

Dude you said what 3 weeks ago you preferred Cousins over him? Obviously your confidence isn't sky high in him. Not sure why you are running this charade.

Just because your backup plays terrible doesn't validate you as a player. If you wanted another player to start over him, how confident were you in him in the first place?
 

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Flacco and Eli had awful years last year. I can't believe you would even cite that.

Dude you said what 3 weeks ago you preferred Cousins over him? Obviously your confidence isn't sky high in him. Not sure why you are running this charade.

Just because your backup plays terrible doesn't validate you as a player. If you wanted another player to start over him, how confident were you in him in the first place?


You do know griffin was playing with a short deck right?
 

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Flacco and Eli had awful years last year. I can't believe you would even cite that.

Dude you said what 3 weeks ago you preferred Cousins over him? Obviously your confidence isn't sky high in him. Not sure why you are running this charade.

Just because your backup plays terrible doesn't validate you as a player. If you wanted another player to start over him, how confident were you in him in the first place?

What's your point? RG3 had a bad year also. And he was playing after knee surgery unlike flacco and eli. Just stating that his numbers weren't as bad as you are making them unless you are trying to compare him to Manning or Rodgers. Otherwise, his numbers perfectly reflected a starting qb in the NFL. All with an injury riddled receiving core and no O'line and an absolutely atrocious defense. You are crazy.

And I've said RG3 was better than cousins about 100 times the past 3 years. Just once I said after the Philly game that Cousins "could" be better than RG3 for this team. Most of which was because his lack of being able to stay healthy and hope that we had a chance this year. I was 100% right for 99% of Cousins career, and 100% wrong for that one lapse of judgement.

Glad that's all you focus on, lol. RG3 is an elite NFL QB when healthy. There is no questions about that.
 

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Now he had a bad year last year, 5 posts up his year wasn't that bad. If Mike Glennon is outperforming your #s, they aren't refecting anything productive or that a team would consistently want.

I dunno, I can't really pretend to care much more about the Redskins QB. Maybe he'll go on to have a long career in which he sustains excellence rather than get hurt every 8 games like we've seen so far

Lastly, when the team says there were "no plans" to bench RG3 for Cousins, what else do you expect them to say?

"Well this guy gets hurt every few games and if this other guy is productive then yeah we're gonna moveon from him but if this other guy sucks then yeah we gotta go back to him by default"
 

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Now he had a bad year last year, 5 posts up his year wasn't that bad. If Mike Glennon is outperforming your #s, they aren't refecting anything productive or that a team would consistently want.

I dunno, I can't really pretend to care much more about the Redskins QB. Maybe he'll go on to have a long career in which he sustains excellence rather than get hurt every 8 games like we've seen so far

You're just playing word games now. He had a bad season compared to his ROY season and had a bad season compared to some of the elite qbs in the NFL. But in terms of being a starter on one of 32 teams, not even close, he definitely did not put up that bad of numbers for such a terrible team last year. You're not even making sense. Numbers don't lie, only Patriots fans do.
 

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You're just playing word games now. He had a bad season compared to his ROY season and had a bad season compared to some of the elite qbs in the NFL. But in terms of being a starter on one of 32 teams, not even close, he definitely did not put up that bad of numbers for such a terrible team last year. You're not even making sense. Numbers don't lie, only Patriots fans do.

So why don't you just say last year was a fluke and his rookie year is how he is going to play going forward rather than pretend he wasn't awful last year? If he plays like he did last year, he won't be the future of the franchise for very long. Do you atleast understand that?

Playing at a mediocre NFL starter level gets you recycled usually.
For an "elite starter" his job was definitely up for grabs over the last 4 weeks, if you don't think that then you're just being a fan.
 

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So why don't you just say last year was a fluke and his rookie year is how he is going to play going forward rather than pretend he wasn't awful last year? If he plays like he did last year, he won't be the future of the franchise for very long. Do you atleast understand that?

Playing at a mediocre NFL starter level gets you recycled usually.
For an "elite starter" his job was definitely up for grabs over the last 4 weeks, if you don't think that then you're just being a fan.

Last year wasn't a fluke. He was coming off a horrible knee injury which completely changed how the shanihans played him. He was much less mobile with the knee brace on. This year, he was fully healthy and the redskins were 100% committed to him. He gets another horrible injury and that's when questions came up about whether Cousins could take over instead of relying on RG3 to get healthy again. And yes if he can't stay on the field he will not be a franchise qb very long, but that wasn't the argument. He is clearly a capable NFL starter and after Cousins downfall, the clear #1 for the Redskins. When he's healthy they won't even hesitate to get him back on the field. He's a great qb and had probably the best RC qb season in history. And that was 2 years ago, lol.
 

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Fluke as in outlier season because of bad OL/injury/shanahan/whatever excuse you need

He is going to be an elite NFL QB now right?
 

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Fluke as in outlier season because of bad OL/injury/shanahan/whatever excuse you need

He is going to be an elite NFL QB now right?


Hopefully. only time will tell. Unfortunately the redskins haven't been great at developing young qbs the last 15 years for whatever reason.
 

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Hopefully. only time will tell. Unfortunately the redskins haven't been great at developing young qbs the last 15 years for whatever reason.

You didn't like the development of Gus Frerotte?? Haha, I used to collect his cards and Michael Westbrook. Other than Sean Taylor, Kerrigan, Morris, RG3 and Champ Bailey, there has not been much out of the skins drafting the past 15 years. Although Stephen Davis was a surprise.
 

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I retract any statements I have made about Cousins. He is bad. Still feel that RG isn't any better, but ole Kirk has killed his career in a few weeks.
 

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You didn't like the development of Gus Frerotte?? Haha, I used to collect his cards and Michael Westbrook. Other than Sean Taylor, Kerrigan, Morris, RG3 and Champ Bailey, there has not been much out of the skins drafting the past 15 years. Although Stephen Davis was a surprise.

I rememebr when michael Westbrook beat Stephen Davis like he stole something.
 

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"Well, we want to beat Indianapolis," was Gruden's response when asked how long RGIII will be allowed to settle in. "We want to win every game. And I have to put the people in there who (are) gonna help us win those games."

lol don't think I've ever seen a coach just shit on his QB over and over like Gruden does to RG
 

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