"Wow....after 40 plus years playing every angle of craps.
You are a Goddamn fool, idiot, loser, bullshit artist if you think charting a table is a waste of time.
Pitiful FOOL! I don't even want to hear from your dumbass."
Thread ran its course but do we just go ahead and call this the greatest post in RX history or is there a 5 year waiting period like with players going to the HOF.
You are a Goddamn fool, idiot, loser, bullshit artist if you think charting a table is a waste of time.
Pitiful FOOL! I don't even want to hear from your dumbass."
Thread ran its course but do we just go ahead and call this the greatest post in RX history or is there a 5 year waiting period like with players going to the HOF.
Does any of this even. 1/10 of 1 percent go into the realm of real players and real equipment.
Poker players like real players, they can read them, table talk, and angle shoot. Adding their cards aren't sent to
them by a computer.
A roulette dealer can at least try to release the ball at the same point to hit a segment on a wheel. A live BJ game
players can egg a feel for the shoe as opposed to a continuous online shuffled BJ game.
Why not just have a certified computer number generator produce dice rolls?? I don't think that would
be very popular.
At least the player at the minimum can set the dice on the same number and make the exact same motion, that has to be good for something. NO
Poker players like real players, they can read them, table talk, and angle shoot. Adding their cards aren't sent to
them by a computer.
A roulette dealer can at least try to release the ball at the same point to hit a segment on a wheel. A live BJ game
players can egg a feel for the shoe as opposed to a continuous online shuffled BJ game.
Why not just have a certified computer number generator produce dice rolls?? I don't think that would
be very popular.
At least the player at the minimum can set the dice on the same number and make the exact same motion, that has to be good for something. NO
listen, there will be more losing sessions than winning sessions, almost impossible to avoid
but it's taking advantage of that winning session that wins
there are "hot tables", that shouldn't even be debated. Just like everyone gets on a hot roll capping games. Can't explain it, can't bottle it, can't sell it (well, might have to reword that) sometimes it just happens, sometimes it's instinctive.
the best advice I can give is "shit happens". It's when you start thinking mathematical probabilities have to prevail in a two hour session you're certain to lose, guaranteed,
I've said many times "nothing is do". People make that mistake all the time, that's why they "don't win". They take down bets on winning tables because the 7 is due and they increase bets on a losing table because making a point is due. In my world and based on my extensive experience, that's ass backwards.
I love leaving hundreds of dollars on the table, that's one great roll
but it's taking advantage of that winning session that wins
there are "hot tables", that shouldn't even be debated. Just like everyone gets on a hot roll capping games. Can't explain it, can't bottle it, can't sell it (well, might have to reword that) sometimes it just happens, sometimes it's instinctive.
the best advice I can give is "shit happens". It's when you start thinking mathematical probabilities have to prevail in a two hour session you're certain to lose, guaranteed,
I've said many times "nothing is do". People make that mistake all the time, that's why they "don't win". They take down bets on winning tables because the 7 is due and they increase bets on a losing table because making a point is due. In my world and based on my extensive experience, that's ass backwards.
I love leaving hundreds of dollars on the table, that's one great roll
Ive seen a few- but having 5 dice defeats much of the charting. They would have to be 5 different colors and you'd have to chart the red/blue yellow/blue combo etc
youd have to chart each shooter as well, too many variables.
i did have a couple players who charted for years, crazy.
or while charting they would wait for 19 rolls with no 12 and start betting
a 1 dollar 12 or some other crazy shit, just plain stupid .
I have about 3x. So if I average 15 tables per month x 12 months x 25 years, that would be 3 out of 4,500 tables
if it werent possible,, why would the casino be so afraid and go to the lengths i described to eliminate any possible advantage.
another thing they did was change the layout from felt to a new surface that acts like a trampoline. the felt was soft and the dice would bounce true, the new surface makes it near impossible to keep the dice on axis.
another thing they did was change the layout from felt to a new surface that acts like a trampoline. the felt was soft and the dice would bounce true, the new surface makes it near impossible to keep the dice on axis.
Akillies no one is saying that if you can throw the dice to hit a particular number that it's not an advantage. Of course that is...But to say one waits to read a table and can jump in and out when they know a table is hot or not and win over the long haul is either delusional or not being honest with themselves on how much they win or lose.
That said if you want a sure winner wait for the skinny brother to walk up to the table with his jack and coke, take out his crumpled up $5 bill (after he waited for the dice to come to his end of the table) after he places it on the pass line, go through his ritual of picking out the right dice and then snapping after he throws the dice....
Bet everything you have on don't pass. You are +EV on that guy
Bet everything you have on don't pass. You are +EV on that guy
im really amazed at myself,as for how long ive been gambling ive never learned how to play CRAPS.is it something i want to learn,or is it something i should just stay away from.people seem to get really excited at the craps table and a lot of times id like to get in on it but i always just shy away from it cause i don't know how to play the game.
whats everybodys honest advice,stay away or go learn it and play.......is it a hard game to learn or not so much
whats everybodys honest advice,stay away or go learn it and play.......is it a hard game to learn or not so much
Not really sure how to answer this other than to say every single game offered in the casino is a game someone you should stay away from if speaking purely from a $/EV standpoint.
It is an easy game to learn though and probably the most entertaining of casino games if you are into that kinda thing.
Here's a good example of how Random the Craps table could be.
My last trip to the Atlantis there was a kid ( mid-to late 20's ) that held the dice for 1 hour and 15 minutes ( HOT TABLE !! ) or Hot roller, whichever you want to call it.
Now of course the Whole table was making money at this time ... was he some kind of "Pro" ?? NO ..... was he throwing the same every time ?? NO
Did he find a "Sweet spot" ?? NO, because he was throwing to his left, and throwing to his Right... he was throwing straight, he was throwing Hard, he was throwing soft.....
It was a Great Run, and the whole table was Happy
when it came time for him to throw again, people were waiting for him. so they could Press their bets.
Wonder what happened ????
He crapped out
My last trip to the Atlantis there was a kid ( mid-to late 20's ) that held the dice for 1 hour and 15 minutes ( HOT TABLE !! ) or Hot roller, whichever you want to call it.
Now of course the Whole table was making money at this time ... was he some kind of "Pro" ?? NO ..... was he throwing the same every time ?? NO
Did he find a "Sweet spot" ?? NO, because he was throwing to his left, and throwing to his Right... he was throwing straight, he was throwing Hard, he was throwing soft.....
It was a Great Run, and the whole table was Happy
when it came time for him to throw again, people were waiting for him. so they could Press their bets.
Wonder what happened ????
He crapped out
Funny you said that. I was in Atlantis 10 yrs ago and held the dice for over an hour at a crowded table. Made the whole table $$. When I finally crapped out, my wife wanted to leave so i was coloring up my chips. The whole table wanted me to stay b/c they wanted to give the dice right back to me.
Like I knew what i was effing doing when i was rolling. Just pure luck
