In Detroit, houses cheaper than cars

[Dawoofdaddy]

The main reason whites left the cities in the first place was because too many darkies started robbing and burning things 40 or so years ago.

Whats funny is govt hires these think tanks to study why downtowns of cities like Detroit have fallen apart when the reasons are obvious. They actually pay alot of money for this type of silliness.

Now the govt says all communities must have some "affordable housing" (code for have a few blacks sprinkled into the neighborhood with section 8 apts).

Like you mentioned before about whites returning to downtown detroit in this thread g2g. After enough blacks get into the suburbs and more than likely tearing those placed down like they did detroit city, whites will eventually return to detroit, rebuild from whats left, and be the majority living in downtown detroit.

:drink:

 

[Romanowski]

this is society of africans led by africans

this is african americans taking full advantage of a society where they didnt lay the foundation or make the rules they just live in it

not just a rapper but the black doctor who worked his ass off thru medical school

any questions?

 

[tiznow]

I agree with this post.

I also think that in a homogenous society, citizens are more likely to have less animosity regarding social safety nets in place for citizens.

I've heard my entire life white people bitching and moaning about people not working and receiving welfare. During the rant, blacks are mentioned along with a few slurs. We all know there are plenty of white people also on welfare, so why isnt that mentioned?

Since this thread is about Detroit, believe it or not, a decent % of black people still support mayor Kilpatrick, even though he appears to be dishonest. Would the same % of black residents support a white version of Kilpatrick? Nope.

So, it seems to me that some blacks are ok with corruption if its a black person holding the power.

Montana sounds great, but for defense purposes I dont like the idea of being a landlocked nation.

We should strive to have Montana, Idaho, Washington, Wyoming, and since many brothas arent going to live in Alaska, maybe we can eventually purchase Alaska.

kinda getting further away from topic but.....

this is exactly why the ME is so fucked up

or a place like darfur, africa whatever....

the "system" over there creates these ethnic differences and there is so much infighting and hatred and they sheep go about their lives playing the game chopping each others heads off

while the ME elite holds onto their power, live the high luxurious life, and control their only export oil in the hands of a few powerful people.....

 

[DarrylParsons]

The biggest litterers I see are whites moreso than blacks hell look at the planet LOL but to each his own. It's your observation so you probably overlook when Joe SixPack chucks a beer can or cigarette from his vehicle because you're not looking for that. I read your response and I appreciate you're candor. I think your hopes are unrealistic especially without violence being a key part of the solution but hell I served this country so you could have your beliefs and right to believe and so did millions of others poss. including yourself. Speaking of serving? Who would fight or serve in your white utopia military? I find it interesting that minorities serve in larger percentage ratio (in the armed forces) than whites even during the segregration era of the 20th century but a majority of whites are unwilling to do the same. How would that change in your desired society? Would the lower class whites who do the menial work like work at the grocery store, construction, cutting lawns, working at McDonalds, working in the factories &etc. (I'm assuming because we know in your society Mr. Wallstreet isn't doing menial work) also be pegged to serve in the military? The more I think about it, whites need minorities more than minorities need whites.

BTW did you ever see White Man's Burden? What did you think of the movie? Great movie in case you haven't seen it.

The composition of the white utopia military largely depends on what the surrounding countries are like. If the Montana deal came about by some magical twist of fate with the rest of the US looking like today, then there would not be much need for a military for the same reasons Canada doesn't need much of a military. There would be a treaty with the US that forbids Americans from attacking us without cause. Anyone else who wants to attack would have to pass through the US first.

If OTOH the system crumbling scenario materializes, then before addressing the military question you'd have to imagine what the power structure of the world would look like. There are so many possibilities that it would be jumping the gun to put together a specific plan to set up the military. Let's just say that every nation that wants to defend itself finds a way to put together a military from its own ranks. Plenty of white countries had white militaries in history.

I'm repeating myself here, but the type of whites who have insatiable desires to be multi-millionaires are not the types who would want a white utopia. There is definitely an economic cost to having your own nation and if you're all about big money and global power mongering, then you're best served in the current system, not in a white utopia. WNs regard big global capitalism with all its white leaders as a crime against humanity. Small scale localized capitalism is where it's at with us. We know we won't be as rich as the big guys but it's worth it. That's our philosophy. Please keep that in mind. It seems you are lumping all whites together. There is a huge difference between a WN and a corporate whore.

So the issue of whites being unwilling to do crappier jobs is not an issue. When you have our philosophy, you take pride in doing the little things for your own community. That sense is lost in modern America because the concept of community is virtually nonexistent.

As an example, I enjoy cutting my grass, changing the oil in my car, etc. yet I wouldn't do those jobs for random strangers for $50 per hour. I don't need the money that badly. Some work I do simply because I enjoy it. It feels good driving when I know the nooks and crannies of my car. When you have a community of people you consider brothers, then you get a similar feeling doing work for that community. Today's gated communities aren't such communities because the people only sleep there. They typically do their work and channel their energies to benefit the global marketplace or some random subsegment thereof. That's not a community IMO.

I read a bit about that movie but it seems a bit too far removed from reality to be interesting.

 

[go2guy]

Again, I think you are incorrectly lumping all white people together. Co-exist? I think nowadays you have it reversed.

I thought that was you standing on McNicolls and Woodward selling The Final Call newspapers. I knew I should have stopped and said hello. You are reppin farrakhan and nation of islam well with the above post.

Well, how about you rep NOI and get your folks that moved up to Rochester Hills with the white people back down to Highland Park and show the black people there how to sweep the trash away from the street drains so the streets dont flood like they did yesterday during the rain.

:lolBIG:

Facts Woof, well documented facts most from the white history tellers. It doesn't make the whites of the world today evil or bad, it's just what happened throughout the course of history. Other societies including African ones have been involved in the same dealings but not in the magnitude of white man. BTW my brother, I'm not NOI & they aren't my folks but they do have some valid points on the state of America. Farrakhan, Ron Paul, George Bush & etc. all cut from the same cloth in my opinion. They don't give a damn about those that can't do anything for them. Free your mind and the rest will follow

 

[go2guy]

The composition of the white utopia military largely depends on what the surrounding countries are like. If the Montana deal came about by some magical twist of fate with the rest of the US looking like today, then there would not be much need for a military for the same reasons Canada doesn't need much of a military. There would be a treaty with the US that forbids Americans from attacking us without cause. Anyone else who wants to attack would have to pass through the US first.

If OTOH the system crumbling scenario materializes, then before addressing the military question you'd have to imagine what the power structure of the world would look like. There are so many possibilities that it would be jumping the gun to put together a specific plan to set up the military. Let's just say that every nation that wants to defend itself finds a way to put together a military from its own ranks. Plenty of white countries had white militaries in history.

I'm repeating myself here, but the type of whites who have insatiable desires to be multi-millionaires are not the types who would want a white utopia. There is definitely an economic cost to having your own nation and if you're all about big money and global power mongering, then you're best served in the current system, not in a white utopia. WNs regard big global capitalism with all its white leaders as a crime against humanity. Small scale localized capitalism is where it's at with us. We know we won't be as rich as the big guys but it's worth it. That's our philosophy. Please keep that in mind. It seems you are lumping all whites together. There is a huge difference between a WN and a corporate whore.

So the issue of whites being unwilling to do crappier jobs is not an issue. When you have our philosophy, you take pride in doing the little things for your own community. That sense is lost in modern America because the concept of community is virtually nonexistent.

As an example, I enjoy cutting my grass, changing the oil in my car, etc. yet I wouldn't do those jobs for random strangers for $50 per hour. I don't need the money that badly. Some work I do simply because I enjoy it. It feels good driving when I know the nooks and crannies of my car. When you have a community of people you consider brothers, then you get a similar feeling doing work for that community. Today's gated communities aren't such communities because the people only sleep there. They typically do their work and channel their energies to benefit the global marketplace or some random subsegment thereof. That's not a community IMO.

I read a bit about that movie but it seems a bit too far removed from reality to be interesting.

But isn't that what you're essentially doing to all blacks and other minorities? Instead of making a case-by-case analysis of who you come in contact with and then developing an opinion, you are taking the easy way out by looking at skin color as a reason to exclude and live by supposed like minded people. Notice I said supposed because man always has an agenda & even that would exist in your utopia. Again, I'm not attacking your beliefs but can't understand that point-of-view. Maybe because it's not for me to understand.

 

[DarrylParsons]

But isn't that what you're essentially doing to all blacks and other minorities? Instead of making a case-by-case analysis of who you come in contact with and then developing an opinion, you are taking the easy way out by looking at skin color as a reason to exclude and live by supposed like minded people. Notice I said supposed because man always has an agenda & even that would exist in your utopia. Again, I'm not attacking your beliefs but can't understand that point-of-view. Maybe because it's not for me to understand.

I don't assume by any stretch that all blacks are the same. Earlier in this thread I posted a video which was all about a black woman pointing out to other blacks that certain blacks (the leading blacks) are different from other blacks (black leaders). I completely understand why that woman believes blacks are best served to live in their own black communities and not be integrated with whitey. I understand because I'm on the same wavelength within my own race.

The thing I don't get is what bothers people about others exercising their freedom of association and possibly excluding them. Are we born with a right to be accepted by everyone as a brother?

 

[JoeContrarian]

Darryl, I think you're making the mistake of judging skin color instead of culture.

 

[DarrylParsons]

Darryl, I think you're making the mistake of judging skin color instead of culture.

It's possible to live in a homogenous society without judging anyone, Joe.

 

[JoeContrarian]

It's possible to live in a homogenous society without judging anyone, Joe.

How?

It's human nature to judge a book by it's cover.

Some of us overcome our dark natures, others don't.

 

[DarrylParsons]

How?

It's human nature to judge a book by it's cover.

Some of us overcome our dark natures, others don't.

Some of us are able to refer overall judgment of other human beings to God, yet still choose associations based on preferences. Having a preference involves judgment to be sure, but it doesn't have to involve judging the overall worth of another human being.

 

[roadreeler57]

Black Hurricanes

[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']Black hurricanes....
[/FONT][FONT='Arial','sans-serif']
Well, it appears our African-American friends have found yet something else to be pissed about.[/FONT]






[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']A black congresswoman (this would be Sheila Jackson Lee, of Houston ), reportedly complained that the names of hurricanes are all Caucasian sounding names.
[/FONT][FONT='Arial','sans-serif']She would prefer some names that reflect African-American culture such as Chamiqua, Tanisha, Woeisha, Shaqueal, and Jamal. I am NOT making this up!
[/FONT][FONT='Arial','sans-serif']She would also like the weather reports to be broadcast in 'language' that street people can understand because one of the problems that happened in New Orleanswas, that black people couldn't understand the seriousness of the situation, due to the racially biased language of the weather report.
[/FONT][FONT='Arial','sans-serif']I guess if the weather person says that the winds are[/FONT][FONT='Arial','sans-serif']going to blow at 140+ MPH, thats too hard to understand[/FONT][FONT='Arial','sans-serif']
I can hear it now: A weatherman in New Orleans says...
Wazzup, mutha-fukkas! Hehr-i-cane Chamiqua be headin' fo' yo ass like Leroy on a crotch rocket!
Bitch be a category fo'! So, turn off dem chitlins, grab yo' chirren, leave yo crib, and head fo' de nearest FEMA office fo yo FREE shit![/FONT]
[FONT='Arial','sans-serif']http://www.snopes.com/racial/language/hurricane.asp[/FONT]

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

go2guy, you are funny in offshore forum today with the pale face post.

btw, I didnt give you permission to use my photo here at rx as an avatar.

:missingte

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

Would the lower class whites who do the menial work like work at the grocery store, construction, cutting lawns, working at McDonalds, working in the factories &etc. (I'm assuming because we know in your society Mr. Wallstreet isn't doing menial work) also be pegged to serve in the military? The more I think about it, whites need minorities more than minorities need whites.

BTW did you ever see White Man's Burden? What did you think of the movie? Great movie in case you haven't seen it.

Well, you have a point about certain non-whites working certain jobs.

However, specifically mentioning blacks in this post, since the American welfare state went into full operation, affirmative action handed blacks do-little-or-nothing govt type jobs, and the hispanics were allowed to pile into America to the tune of about 40 million nowadays, blacks are using more than they are contributing to the overall economy.

Unless they can run their own recording studio like Jay-Z, sell their own clothing line like Sean Combs, or play some type of pro ball like Lebron, what exactly are most young American blacks (those not in jail) doing these days?

Considering the dropout rate and numbers in prison, maybe they ought to stop pissing and moaning and contribute something worthwhile. If their education and skill level only qualifies them to work at Wallmart, digging a ditch, or picking the fields, then thats what they should be doing.

If you actually think overall that today in America blacks are net contributors vs. any other group in the economy, I disagree.

 

[go2guy]

go2guy, you are funny in offshore forum today with the pale face post.

btw, I didnt give you permission to use my photo here at rx as an avatar.

:missingte

I will assume control of DAWOOFDADDY photo.
XSigned go2guy

Thank you

 

[go2guy]

Well, you have a point about certain non-whites working certain jobs.

However, specifically mentioning blacks in this post, since the American welfare state went into full operation, affirmative action handed blacks do-little-or-nothing govt type jobs, and the hispanics were allowed to pile into America to the tune of about 40 million nowadays, blacks are using more than they are contributing to the overall economy.

Unless they can run their own recording studio like Jay-Z, sell their own clothing line like Sean Combs, or play some type of pro ball like Lebron, what exactly are most young American blacks (those not in jail) doing these days?

Considering the dropout rate and numbers in prison, maybe they ought to stop pissing and moaning and contribute something worthwhile. If their education and skill level only qualifies them to work at Wallmart, digging a ditch, or picking the fields, then thats what they should be doing.

If you actually think overall that today in America blacks are net contributors vs. any other group in the economy, I disagree.

Believe or not woof I don't think they are even from my observations but that doesn't make it right for those who aren't being lumped in with those who are. I think they should do away with the curent welfare system myself.

 

[Dawoofdaddy]

go2guy, ive made posts similar to this, but dont think you were around the poli forum much. I certainly think the welfare system should be dismantled. It has definitely been a net negative for the economy and overall society.

Id like to make this clear. I dont for one second think every black is at all similar (other than skin color) to what goes on in places such as Highland Park. However, I do think relative to their % of the American population, too many blacks fall into this category and it isnt only a problem within black communities, but all of America.

I really do think the welfare system has been the single most important factor why the black family and black community (most specifically black neighborhoods) have fallen apart.

Its done the same thing to places such as white people living in the appalachian region.

People that used to get up every day, put on their boots, and earn a living, now lay around half the day and wait for the mailman to bring their dinner.

Entrepreneurship used to thrive in the black community. Many blacks had a trade and many were tailors, chefs, brick masons, etc. Now many blacks that should be doing this type of work, per my recording studio post, would rather do something like rob and steal or deal drugs, instead of that type of work.

Also, blacks used to have in their own neighborhoods, various black professionals. I see very little of that where I live today. We had a riot here in 1970 and black rioters burned down most of the buildings along the main street that travels through the center of the black community. Along that road, was the core of black entreneurship. Like Detroit, it was never rebuilt after the riot.

 

[go2guy]

go2guy, ive made posts similar to this, but dont think you were around the poli forum much. I certainly think the welfare system should be dismantled. It has definitely been a net negative for the economy and overall society.

Id like to make this clear. I dont for one second think every black is at all similar (other than skin color) to what goes on in places such as Highland Park. However, I do think relative to their % of the American population, too many blacks fall into this category and it isnt only a problem within black communities, but all of America.

I really do think the welfare system has been the single most important factor why the black family and black community (most specifically black neighborhoods) have fallen apart.

Its done the same thing to places such as white people living in the appalachian region.

People that used to get up every day, put on their boots, and earn a living, now lay around half the day and wait for the mailman to bring their dinner.

Entrepreneurship used to thrive in the black community. Many blacks had a trade and many were tailors, chefs, brick masons, etc. Now many blacks that should be doing this type of work, per my recording studio post, would rather do something like rob and steal or deal drugs, instead of that type of work.

Also, blacks used to have in their own neighborhoods, various black professionals. I see very little of that where I live today. We had a riot here in 1970 and black rioters burned down most of the buildings along the main street that travels through the center of the black community. Along that road, was the core of black entreneurship. Like Detroit, it was never rebuilt after the riot.

Agree with much of your post and could serve as a good summary of the black community in America minus of a few generalizations you made but I can understand why you made them

 

[gtc08]

dawoofdaddy, black business ownership has increased ten fold in the past years due to the SBA promoting more minority ownership with better rates, etc. which I think is fine.

see alot of black drivers, warehouse work, retail work.

black college grad rate 43 percent
white grad rate 63 percent. i dont see that big of a deal there. both are low.

i think society in general is sticking to the so called labor, warehouse, no college degree type jobs because they cant afford college anymore. thats all gov fault as well.

this is a great country if you have money and you can sell. anything else you are just a worker bee.

 

[go2guy]

dawoofdaddy, black business ownership has increased ten fold in the past years due to the SBA promoting more minority ownership with better rates, etc. which I think is fine.

see alot of black drivers, warehouse work, retail work.

black college grad rate 43 percent
white grad rate 63 percent. i dont see that big of a deal there. both are low.

i think society in general is sticking to the so called labor, warehouse, no college degree type jobs because they cant afford college anymore. thats all gov fault as well.

this is a great country if you have money and you can sell. anything else you are just a worker bee.

I really do think the welfare system has been the single most important factor why the black family and black community (most specifically black neighborhoods) have fallen apart.

What do you think about this statement GTC? I also think drugs played a part too.