If you could quit your job and go back to school....

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When they dont educate high school seniors on the cost of going to college and how much they will likely make when they graduate with the degrees that they want to obtain its a scam. They tell them they COULD do this and COULD do that but in all liklihood obtaining some of these positions are impossible because most of these jobs are scarce or you have to "know" someone to get an in.

They THROW MONEY at these student while at the same time telling them that they will not find a good job without a college education.

These colleges dont care they are getting the tuition money. They dont EDUCATE students and high school seniors as to what they will be fully facing when they graduate.

You live in the greatest country in the world, the opportunities for those
that are willing to work hard are endless. But, you choose to bitch, moan
and complain that somehow college scammed you?

I wouldn't hire you either.
 

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You live in the greatest country in the world, the opportunities for those
that are willing to work hard are endless. But, you choose to bitch, moan
and complain that somehow college scammed you?

I wouldn't hire you either.

Great point.

It is amazing how many people in my job complain about crap. I am like, you make a great living, you rack up more mileage and hotel points than anyone can dream of and have total autonomy.

I am in Dallas and my boss is in San Fran and I see him twice a year. People complain about crap and I am like you know how fortunate you are to be employed.
 

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i wouldn't worry too much about the criticism alwayz....i make 5,000,000,000,000,000 a year and you're an idiot. it's what you get for bringing a question like this up.

if you have the means and the time to go back to school, do it. in the end, college education pays dividends regardless of the market you end up entering. anything to do with computers, or engineering i guess would be an easy answer. find something you're willing to apply yourself to. the main thing is completing a degree. if you're unsure what you want to do, take up studies in something with as broad a range as possible so you can work those qualifications into a future resume.

and anybody who hangs out on an internet forum and criticizes someone for asking a question like this while claiming they make 6 figures a year is a fucking jerk off, whether they're lying about their salary or not. fuck em.
 

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When they dont educate high school seniors on the cost of going to college and how much they will likely make when they graduate with the degrees that they want to obtain its a scam. They tell them they COULD do this and COULD do that but in all liklihood obtaining some of these positions are impossible because most of these jobs are scarce or you have to "know" someone to get an in.

They THROW MONEY at these student while at the same time telling them that they will not find a good job without a college education.

These colleges dont care they are getting the tuition money. They dont EDUCATE students and high school seniors as to what they will be fully facing when they graduate.

Dude, you have to know how ridiculous these statements are you're making. Who is "they?" Furthermore, why is it anyone's job to educate you on the cost of anything? Are you telling me High School seniors just pick a school and don't know the cost? They just say "I like Baylor...I'll go there and I don't even care what the cost is."

I'd advise you to quit your complaining and grab a firm grasp on your own life and education and quit expecting everyone to do the work for you.
 

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Dude, you have to know how ridiculous these statements are you're making. Who is "they?" Furthermore, why is it anyone's job to educate you on the cost of anything? Are you telling me High School seniors just pick a school and don't know the cost? They just say "I like Baylor...I'll go there and I don't even care what the cost is."

I'd advise you to quit your complaining and grab a firm grasp on your own life and education and quit expecting everyone to do the work for you.

am i on blackout here? when did he say this?
 

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Only jobs being created today are govt jobs, thats the field to get into.......
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These colleges dont care they are getting the tuition money. They dont EDUCATE students and high school seniors as to what they will be fully facing when they graduate.

Dude, 'they' would be guidance counselors.

I had the same guidance counselor in HS the last three years of school.
There were like 6 (maybe 8 I don't remember, it's been a couple of decades, but I digress)
Each guidance counselor had like maybe 350 students each.
Mine was Mr. Harrison, guy was great.
He had a masters and he knew what colleges were good for what student based on his or her interests, SAT scores and other criteria.
Not only that, he told me the local community college here, (one of the best two year colleges in the country) can give me the business courses I wanted(accounting, I eventually wound up in I/T where I remain) for 1/4th the price of a big name university.

Mr. Harrison was more than that, he was the guy to go to if you had family problems, most 16 year old did, or if you needed somebody to lean on if there was a death in the family, guy was cool like that.


A lot of high schools had 'vocational counselor' also.
Mine didn't, that was part of Mr. Harrison's duties, but some of my buddies who went to different High Schools did, from what I understand the VC's job is to advice junior and seniors on career paths outside of school.

Don't feed me this my High School didn't educate me about colleges, tuition costs, etc. etc. etc. BECAUSE THEY DO, and even if you didn't get the adequate guidance in HS (which I find very hard to believe) how hard is it to log on, and google whatever information you want about a particular school.

I'm over 40, the Internet explosion occurred right after I left college, I and most of us had terrific guidance counselors, they gave me most of the information I needed, if I wanted more, you know what I did?
Since I am a dinosaur, I went to the public library, cracked open some of those gigantic university books, the books that had information on all colleges and universities like how many study credits needed to get a particular degree, course outlines, by that I mean how many credits in a particular subject you need to obtain to meet a certain degree criteria, etc. etc. etc.
I could go on, but you get the gist, if you don't I suggest you go back to remedial school, maybe something like a Cedarwood.

Cut the shit already, nobody is buying your 'scam, woe is me pity'
My advice is to stay with your graveyard shift job, go to school in the day time, part time, that is exactly what I did, when I was 19 I sorted checks on a 1419 magnetic check sorter in a computer room from 10p to 6a, went to college part time from 8a to 12 noon 3 times a week, slept from about 2p to 7p, got up, and did it again, amen.
 

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"woe is my me pity"..LMFAO uh no sir....dont hate on opnions. I asked a question and was looking for advice. and when I was in high school the interet was jsut STARTING UP for the most part...heck they didnt even have google yet I think.

guidance counserlors...lol....another POS...at least at my high school they were.

The only thing they did was talk to students about thier problems and when you asked for "guidance" all they ever did was make sure you were getting all the requirements to get into college..period.
 

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Physicians Assistant

26 months of school to become a PA. Starting average salary is about $87K.

If you don't have the science pre-reqs, you may need a few classes at a community college before applying.

Might have to look into this field!
 

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Was going to start my own thread, but it seems like my question fits in well here: Anyone have any knowledge on what technical-related certificates are the most useful to have? Cisco networking, all the microsoft stuff..?

I've been unemployed for about 4 months and it's starting to take its toll on me; I'm getting discouraged, depressed, etc. I'm very good at what I do (retail management, 10 years of relevant experience) but I don't even have a associates degree and I'm getting edged-out of well-paying jobs by people with 4-year degrees... So I think I may need to think about switching occupations.

I was a CS major when I did attend college, so it's not a totally foreign field for me.

Thanks for any thoughts.
 

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A friend and former co-worker from Vancouver decided he wanted to quit is well paying job and enroll in the MBA program at Columbia University. He owned a couple of start up businesses so admissions and survival money were not an issue.

I asked him why he would walk away from well paying job to go to business school, considering he already had a couple businesses on the go and knew what he was doing.

His simple answer was "Contacts and Connections"

The guy was going to school just to meet the people that would be enrolled in the Columbia MBA Program and make business contacts for the future.
 

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Was going to start my own thread, but it seems like my question fits in well here: Anyone have any knowledge on what technical-related certificates are the most useful to have? Cisco networking, all the microsoft stuff..?

I've been unemployed for about 4 months and it's starting to take its toll on me; I'm getting discouraged, depressed, etc. I'm very good at what I do (retail management, 10 years of relevant experience) but I don't even have a associates degree and I'm getting edged-out of well-paying jobs by people with 4-year degrees... So I think I may need to think about switching occupations.

I was a CS major when I did attend college, so it's not a totally foreign field for me.

Thanks for any thoughts.

Nobody is ever too old to go back to school. I started at a community college to learn how to study and save some money by living at home and then on to a 4-year. The CC was cheaper and helped prepare me for a university. It's not easy and is a commitment but ask yourself if it's worth it. It think your answer will be "yes."

I'm about to start my graduate program but at 34 I'm pretty unmotivated to do it. It has to be done and I'll be starting it soon but it's not easy for anyone.
 

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"woe is my me pity"..LMFAO uh no sir....dont hate on opnions. I asked a question and was looking for advice. and when I was in high school the interet was jsut STARTING UP for the most part...heck they didnt even have google yet I think.

guidance counserlors...lol....another POS...at least at my high school they were.

The only thing they did was talk to students about thier problems and when you asked for "guidance" all they ever did was make sure you were getting all the requirements to get into college..period.

Alwayz, you sound like a very unmotivated person looking for a handout and complaining if it doesn't go your way. Maybe you are not like this at all but this is the way you sound.
 

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Nobody is ever too old to go back to school. I started at a community college to learn how to study and save some money by living at home and then on to a 4-year. The CC was cheaper and helped prepare me for a university. It's not easy and is a commitment but ask yourself if it's worth it. It think your answer will be "yes.".

Appreciate the thoughts - CC has been on my radar, and it's one of the few options that fits my financial situation well.
 

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I dont know your full situation but with 70k in debt you cant just quit your job and start going to school. i'd suggest going to school before/after work part time and study a field you ENJOY. if you are just looking to make a dollar you will be miserable in your career choice after college as well. i know plenty of 30+ year olds who work 40-50 hours and take 6-9 units. but they dont have time to handicap either haha
 

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Appreciate the thoughts - CC has been on my radar, and it's one of the few options that fits my financial situation well.

Yeah, I worked part time and went to school at CC for two years. It was a very good start and prepared me just fine.
 

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I would love to go back.

I would major in bitches and minor in ho's(<)<
 

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Alwayz, you sound like a very unmotivated person looking for a handout and complaining if it doesn't go your way. Maybe you are not like this at all but this is the way you sound.

Not at all I am a very motivated.
 

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