If a Covid-19 vaccine were available tomorrow, would you take it?

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would you?

  • yes

    Votes: 20 38.5%
  • no

    Votes: 25 48.1%
  • only if it's mandatory

    Votes: 4 7.7%
  • no idea

    Votes: 3 5.8%

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To the ones who don't want this vaccine. Do you guys also decline the flu shot?

I'm in the opposite group. I've been declining the flu shot, but intend to get the C-19 shot.

Though, in retrospect, i wish i had been getting the flu shot. And intend to do so henceforth.
 

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I'm in the opposite group. I've been declining the flu shot, but intend to get the C-19 shot.

Though, in retrospect, i wish i had been getting the flu shot. And intend to do so henceforth.


I have always declined the flu shot because I was told some may get the flu from the shot. However, this past year I was organizing a flu shot event in our office so it only made sense I participated. I did NOT get the flu and intend to get the flu shots going forward. Funny how it takes a pandemic like COVID-19 to educate people. Because now I realize, me refusing to take my flu shot all these years left me susceptible and in turn contributing to the spread of the common flu.
 
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I have always declined the flu shot because I was told some may get the flu from the shot. However, this past year I was organizing a flu shot event in our office so it only made sense I participated. I did NOT get the flu and intend to get the flu shots going forward. Funny how it takes a pandemic like COVID-19 to educate people. Because now I realize, me refusing to take my flu shot all these years left me susceptible and in turn contributing to the spread of the common flu.

Being in the older aged group i am probably more at risk, so with C-19 around & God knows what else coming, it seems like a good time to get shots.

Though even w/i getting them for years now i never got a cold or flu for decades.

BTW there has been some news about people who've had a cold before may have some immunity to C-19.

Also, evidently, people whose ancestors came from certain areas, e.g. Northern Europe (Sweden), have more immunity to various things, e.g. HIV.

Be well, live long!
 

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Why the hell would anyone want a class of people completely dependent on there government ?
 
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[h=1]Why it matters that you get a COVID-19 vaccine when it’s available[/h]


The Question: Several public-opinion polls have found that lots of people won’t be rolling up their sleeves to get a COVID-19 vaccine when it becomes available. But does it really matter if anti-vaxxers shun the shot? Let them get sick if they want to. At least those of us who are vaccinated will be protected.
The Answer: Unfortunately, it does matter. For a vaccine program to be effective against a common pathogen, a certain percentage of the population usually needs to be inoculated and able to resist infection.
A high level of participation helps create what is called “herd immunity,” which is often necessary to safeguard those who don’t respond well to the vaccine, says Rob Kozak, a clinical microbiologist at Sunnybrook Health Sciences Centre in Toronto.
He notes that many older folks may not generate a robust response to a vaccine. As people age, their immune systems become less efficient at producing the antibodies and T-cells necessary to fight off an infection. As a result, they may still become ill even if they get a shot.
People with compromised immune systems, such as certain cancer patients, may also fail to benefit fully from a vaccine.

To protect vulnerable populations, we need a sufficient number of people who are immune to the infection so that the virus has a hard time spreading from person to person.
Essentially, herd immunity reduces the chances that a susceptible individual will come into contact with SARS-CoV-2, the official name of the coronavirus that causes COVID-19.
However, because SARS-CoV-2 is so new, medical experts still don’t know what percentage of the population needs to be vaccinated to achieve herd immunity.
“Some of the estimates range anywhere from 60 per cent all the way up to 85 per cent,” Kozak says.
Right now, the push is on to get a product to market as fast as possible. The U.S. program, called Operation Warp Speed, has set a target of having a vaccine ready by the end of year – 18 months at the outside. It typically takes many years to develop a vaccine against a new pathogen.


That rush could undermine public trust in anything that is developed, says Byram Bridle, an associate professor of viral immunology at the University of Guelph. “As soon as you use terms like ‘warp speed’ it creates the impression that corners are being cut and a lot of people will question the safety of the vaccine,” Bridle says.
But Kozak says vaccine development can be accelerated without jeopardizing science or safety. He notes that researchers often spend a lot of time applying for grants.
In this case, though, money is readily available and the regulatory process is primed for a rapid response. “People are putting in place the resources that are really useful in speeding things up.”
What’s more, some scientists are working on new types of vaccines – using synthetic genetic material – that may be quicker to develop than traditional inoculations that often include part of a killed or attenuated (weakened) virus to trigger an immune response.
Kozak does acknowledge that research is still a very lengthy process. It takes a fixed amount of time for the immune system to respond to a vaccine, and then it takes more time to do the tests that can confirm safety and effectiveness. “It’s all just an exercise in patience,” he adds.


And once a vaccine (or more than one) is approved, it still needs to be manufactured in large amounts and administered to the public, additional time-consuming steps on the road to herd immunity.



Bridle doubts that any vaccine can be developed within the year. “I’m not going to say it is impossible, but it’s a low probability.”
Even without a vaccine, he expects natural herd immunity will be gradually created in the community as more and more people become infected with the virus. That assumption is based on the fact that people normally develop some immunity after successfully fighting off an infection. But it’s uncertain how long that protection will last because it might wear off or the virus could morph over time.
So, the medical community is banking on vaccine development. “The uptake of a vaccine is going to be driven by people’s perceptions of how safe it is,” Bridle says.
That means public-health leaders can’t ignore vaccine critics whose activities could help sow seeds of doubts among those who aren’t usually opposed to inoculations. “We could be at risk of not getting enough people vaccinated,” he warns. “And, I do believe, that could be a problem.”




https://www.theglobeandmail.com/lif...ou-get-a-covid-19-vaccine-when-its-available/
 

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If someone chooses not to get a vaccine, and then dies of Coronavirus, that's their freedom.

Why you liberal cunts always try to take people's freedom to choose away is beyond me. Likely stems from daddy issues.
 

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Also, the only decent argument liberals have with Coronavirus is that you could be endangering someone else... well, if a vaccine is in play, then that someone else had the ability to get the super beneficial vaccine for themselves if they wanted... so someone is *only* endangering themselves, allegedly, if they don't get a vaccine.

Now liberals have to admit this isn't about the public good, this is about complete control over every human being.

Good luck with that argument.
 

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The Bill and Melinda Gates Foundation was created in 2000. The highly specific mandate of the foundation at that time was to fund, research and develop a licensed vaccine for malaria. Billions were thrown at the project, the brightest scientists in the world were funded to produce a vaccine and unprecedented global cooperation was provided in order to make that vaccine a reality.

20 years later, no vaccine has ever been produced for malaria.

After a decade of banging his head against a wall, Bill Gates pivoted. He determined that dengue fever would be doable. He poured billions into the project. The brightest minds were hired. Unprecedented cooperation worldwide was noted. 10 years in, there is no licensed vaccine for dengue fever.

Every time a virus circles the globe, and deadly ones at that, the "brightest and best" scientific minds bang the drum, tell us that technology makes vaccines easier than ever to produce and to expect a vaccine in just over a year.

The Gates Foundation has a success rate, in the development and production of vaccines, of ZERO. There are almost no notable successes in global vaccines. RNA vaccines are almost impossible to produce, due to the rapid mutations of the underlying virus. This virus is no different. Every 15 days, a new mutation occurs in SARS-COV2 and almost all scientists consider this one to be especially tricky.

Don't expect a vaccine. Expect that this will eventually circle the planet. It will infect everyone that it is prone to infect. Most will recover, some will get very ill and some will die.

After a few more weeks of quarantine, the public will have to make a choice about going back to work or trying to keep granny alive. After age 70, vaccines don't work on granny in any event.
 
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If someone chooses not to get a vaccine, and then dies of Coronavirus, that's their freedom.

Why you liberal cunts always try to take people's freedom to choose away is beyond me. Likely stems from daddy issues.

When your freedom puts others at risk or serial kills them, then there is often justification to take it away. As in, for example, imprisonment.

As per the article i just posted, people exercising their freedom to not be vaccinated puts vulnerable people at greater risk.

As it has been said, the greatness of a society can be measured by how it protects the most weak & vulnerable.

Considering the millions of abortions in America, the USA is failing miserably.
 

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When your freedom puts others at risk or serial kills them, then there is often justification to take it away. As in, for example, imprisonment.

As per the article i just posted, people exercising their freedom to not be vaccinated puts vulnerable people at greater risk.

As it has been said, the greatness of a society can be measured by how it protects the most weak & vulnerable.

Considering the millions of abortions in America, the USA is failing miserably.

Except abortions are a woman making a decision about another human being's life... so that's not really the same thing, isn't it? Would you have preferred you were aborted? Maybe so, but every human being should have that choice whether they want to live or not.

As for your other point, it's moronic. As I just said, if I don't get a vaccine, and I am in line with someone at the store who also decided not to get the vaccine, then that person made an independent choice as well.

Are you telling me the vaccine isn't even going to be effective? Then why would anyone choose to take it? If that person is endangered by my not getting a vaccine, then they must have not got the vaccine either, by choice, or the vaccine doesn't work.

Why would anyone take a vaccine that didn't work?
 

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