Ice in the desert (Iceman's life in Las Vegas-December 2008)

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Iceman - Thanks for answering my previous post.

You never got specific as far as how many hours would you estimate you spend per week on this?

Also, I'm still wondering where you purchased your laptop with the 30 day return policy. Am interested in shopping a computer there.

Would also like to hear your feeling on your new Blackberry Storm. Checked one out today at the Verizon store - I get the feeling a mini-computer would suit me better. The clerk at the store felt that way also.

Did you try an Iphone (I haven't yet) before getting the Storm?
What was it about your small computer that wasn't satisfying, and made you go for the Storm as well?
(I'm trying to decide myself which way to go).


I've got a general question also for anyone reading this - I thought I'd read somewhere that this website now has pm's, but I can't find any sign of it.


hours a week is a tough question. I mean I am multi-taksing between here at the Rx, gambling and messing with other stuff. I guess if I had to answer based on just sitting in front of the computer I would estimate 60 hours a week would be a rough estimate.

Bought laptop at Best Buy. Just didnt feel comfortable walking around spotsbook with a computer in hand. Too big, even though it was so little. Every bettor I seen carries a blackberry type gizmo with them in and out of books. Just needed phone for Pinny lines and a comparsion to market numbers.
 

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happy I could help anyone Barman. Sound like a very busy man BM. I know you re really doing a great job here at the Rx since you came aboard. If you ever have any questions please feel free to ask me.
 

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Good morning everyone!!!

Been a great week so far but when in comes to total games for the week I may not be half way done. A humungous card goes tomorrow. So reallty too early too get too excited. Either way have had an awesome start as I am up close to $3,60 in four days.

Just felt like a lightbulb went off in my head Sunday on exactly how I wanted to attack hoops and I have thnakfully seen some good results so far with it. Been keeping a little daily journal descriing my thoughts and feelings on each play, what I was thininkg when I pulled the trigger on them. I have done this in the past but this time has helped tremendously. I cant recommend this enough to anyone who bets on a regular basis. I just wanted to capture some of the good things I have been doing on paper so when I am sturuggling or feeling lost I can go back and read this. For example in last nights writing I put that I feel a lot better with shorter cards, things look so much more clear. That after 2pm pst I need to really buckle down and start concentrating as 90% of the line moves come at this time. I talked about scenairos with games I timed the bet prfect so in the future when I see stuff developing I can use this as a reference to get the line at it's peak. Nothing earth shattering but stuff if i write down will help me remember in the future. Overall I have spent a lot more time this week focuing on watching the line moves, etc and less time on other not as important stuff. Think this has helped quite a bit. In fact I have spent quite a bit more time it seems this week. Tomorrow should be an all day thing. Last Saturday was a long (and profitable) day, most likely will be like this every saturday for a few months.


Got into a cool contest at Leroy's at the mid season point of the NFL called 3 and out. You pick one game a week against the spread in the NFL (totals included) if you lose that counts as 1 loss, 3 losses on your ballot and you are out of the competition. Somewhere around 280 people played in this. I had 5 ballots and still have 2 left. I think there are 47 people still left. There were only 2 people undefeated going inot last week (I was one of them). I lost and other person won so there are now only 1 undefeated left. It is winner take all so no consolation prizes. Goes into playoffs. I played Arizona +7.5 on my 1 loss ballot this week and Dallas -4.5 on my 2 loss ballot. Fun contest, stuff like this is why I love Vegas. Getting in a CBB contest after the 1st of the year, Cant wait for this.

Weird weather week. I am sure most know all about the snow here. Not much out where I live. My finacee was all set to meet parents and sibilings and their families in Florida and spend the next 4 days there for the holidays. Her family got there early in the week and havent seen her since we left in early August. Anyways her flight got cancelled. You would never ever think in Las vegas something like this would happen. Earliest she could get there was now friday night around midnight. They are leaving Sunday morning early so they decided for her to forget it. Her family is crushed as you would never imagine such a thing. They bought and planeed this over a year ago. In a selfish way I am happy she didnt leave. Our dogs are heartbroken when she leaves for an extend trip. The whole house becomes like a morgue without another human walking around and no interaction, etc... The one thing now is I have to expect an in-law visit much much sooner then I expected and coming very very shortly. No comment on that one!!
 
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I bet you couldn't believe it when your saw it snowing. Probably thought you were back home. Better enjoy it as it rarely snows there.
 

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Merry Christmas everyone!!!

Been spinning my wheels pretty much last week. Did have a great saturday. Up around 4k for the month. Starting too think I may just bet CBB totals every night and leave the other stuff to the side. I am just killing CBB totals on the year as I am up over 5k on them. It's a nightly thing with me beating them and losing on my other stuff, even though I am getting down great bets in CBB sides. Last night was no exception.

Holidays are a little different with no family in town. Kind of weird. Has been wintry though the past week and that has made everything feel a lot more like x-mas. Good thing os the days will start getting longer. Not liking this getting dark at 4:30 crap.

First day off in months is today. Kind of weird feeling and too be honest with you I am not excited about it. I was in a groove and want to keep this going. In fact the next few days are very slow from a betting prespective (1 cbb game in 3 days). I guess it is a chance to recharge the batteries.

Have a lot to do. Will be back later today!!!
 

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I enjoy reading your entries Ice. Alot of us wish we had the chance to do what you are doing--so enjoy and Happy Holidays

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Couple things I want to bring up.

It's business as usual at the sportsbooks tomorrow. Though it is hard to believe, all of them are open. In fact we dont have a whole lot planned between me and the misses so sometime tomorrow I think I am going to go out and hit my usual thursday contest plays. If not then I have to do it friday and I would rather not be in that mess.

I think my GF is taking the holidays a little harder then anytime since we have been here. She was suppose to go and meet her family in florida last week but her flight was one of the flights that got cancelled due to the Vegas snow and she missed out on seeing everyone this year. Seems like she has been a little bummed since then. We went to some christmas place the other night called something like opportunity knocks, basically a bunch of christmas displays, etc for people to walk around and see. The money goes towards charity. She volunteerd at this place the next night with a bunch of co-workers. Tonight or tomorrow we are suppose to drive thru some area and look at the lights. I could care less about this stuff but I am doing it so she is happy. When you dont have kids christmas isnt really that important and now when you take all the nieces and nephews out of the equation we dont have much too share this year.

She said the other day how we have no presents under the tree and that it looked empty (In the past we take the money we spend for christmas on each other and give it too the needy or something like that). I honestly have strong feelings when it comes to x-mas and how most adults should handle it. I think it is a kids holiday and for the needy (adults). Dont get me wrong I think it is all about giving. I feel we should all just be thankful for our heath and happiness more then anything else. In fact I dont want anything for christmas, it makes me feel really odd when I get something. I would rather not get anything at all. I have seen a lot of adults, frineds of mine, still get excited about getting presents from their my mom and dad, like they are still 11 years old. Just a part of me that thinks this is kind of wrong, espcally when you are in your 30's. If anything I think at our ages (my frineds and mine-30's) we should be clearly outspending our parents on presents with each other but some of my buddies still dont. Sort of payback time from when we were younger. I refuse a present from my parents, I have told them for years please dont buy me anything so they stopped (and I buy them something every year). I could go on and on about some of this stuff but that is how I feel.

Anyways I went and got my GF and I some tickets too a comedy show and also too see Lance Burton (magician), so she will be surprised. The one thing I did this year too really surprise her is just went and spent over $150 at Petsmart this morning and when she goes to bed tonight I am going to hang the animals (2 dogs and 1 cat) stockings and put their presents under the tree. So when she awakens there will be unexpected presents under the tree. I know it is kind of pathetic but this is the kind of stuff you do when you dont have kids, LOL!!!

I have been really hitting the college basketball hard of late and I have been making all around great bets when compared to the closing line on sides and totals. It is getting so frustrating as I am losing on a nightly basis with sides. Not sure if to just put more money on totals, as the complete opposite is true with that and get away from the sides all together. Makes almost no sense to me as I think I am making great bets. Last night I had Missouri -3, Paciffic +7.5, Colorado -16, clevland st -6, Dayton -8.5, weber st +11, Wyoming, +21 and Buffalo +11. By far in a way my best stretch of betting I have ever had in my life is going on right now. Now I need to turn that into winning. My portfolio of plays have never been better from a betting at apex numbers/beating closing lines. The thing is it feel like hoops has been going on forever and we havent even hit the halfway point. Next two months have historically been my best months of the year. Not trying to jinx myself but I am very excited about this.


Been making almost all of my best at home nowadays. I think maybe with a partner Vegas is worth it for hoops but without I can get way way more done at home throughout the day. I am in at about 13 offshore books right now (off the top of my head). I did enter Leroys CBB contest, whcih starts in early jan but other then that dont see much of a reason to bet down there this time of year.



Hope everyone here at the Rx has a Merry Christmas and a Happy New Year!!!:party:
 

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Merry Christmas to you and the GF. Enjoy reading your threads. I have a couple questions about contests.

Do any of the casino books have MLB contests?

Do they offer contests for most sports?

Thanks for the updates on your journey.
 

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Ice,

try bowl halftimes, 1st half should + 2nd half winner. pretty good angle. nothing ethced in stone, but ND pretty obvious tonight. reg season they take pedal of metal, not in bowls.

Missouri, Weber and UOP were those games you handicap? or just proud of your number?
 

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Ice, nice take on Christmas...

continue on with your success, i still enjoy reading your thread..

my best to you and the girlfriend this holiday season.

SSI
 

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Always wondered how it would be at XMas in Vegas. Pretty lonely since most people are not from there. The pets are a nice bit of sanity.

Merry Christmas to you and the Ms.
 

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Merry Christmas, Ice.

I'm completely on the same page as you about presents. Christmas is for kids. Birthdays, too. I've finally really got all my family trained to not give me anything. For years they thought I didn't really mean it, because it's hard for most people to comprehend.

About CBB totals: EVERYONE seems to be winning on them, so the books will get more and more scared, I guess. But I also think the books must be getting their lines smoothed out by now.
Personally, I'm doing well on sides, but I've got a few 1/2 point covers, and no 1/2 point losses, so that's just variance.

The next 2 months are the biggies. Hope we all kick ass.
 

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Merry christmas, Iceman.

Your last post once again was a nice read and I completely agree with you on your opinion about christmas gifts and thanks to betallsports, Viejo and the others we are even offered a nice project to donate to here at therx.
Good luck for Bowl Season and all your other bets.
 

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First day off in months is today. Kind of weird feeling and too be honest with you I am not excited about it.


Same here. Already impatient and can't wait for Saturday.


Next two months have historically been my best months of the year.

Love to hear that. Wasn't sure if CBB totals would do better or worse once we got to conference play. I figured they would do worse but maybe not.
 

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"....and when she goes to bed tonight I am going to hang the animals (2 dogs and 1 cat)...."

oh my....

for a moment, I thought I was reading a post from P069....

Ho Ho Xmas, IceDude
 

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Hey Ice I have $18 in freakin Golden Nugget chips from last summer.

Or anyone in Las Vegas pm me addy and I'll drop them an envelope.
 

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Let's see if I can do one by one, all of these.

First off thanks Badco but I havent played a table game yet. Give them to someone that wants them. I appreciate it though. That is right notjong, not a dollar on blackjack, roulette, poker, slots, nothing. Not sure if that is good or bad. Its almost like I dont even see them when I walk past them.

Barman. Good catch. I had to go back and read that. Pretty funny stuff.

JohnnyB- I love it. So ready to go. Was sort of nice the past few days though I managed to put over $1,300 worth of plays in today and looking like a crappy day overall. This saturday is a small saturday then it is back to the grind of the conference season.

Soriano- Merry Christmas buddy. I sent yo back a PM. Should help you I hope.

MrMore- Nice to hear from you again. 100 days of fun from december 22nd to march 29th (weekend of final 8). Then everything slows down and switches to baseball. 100 days. Are you ready? I know I am. I will have to let you look at my cbb numbers early one day. It is amazing. I am so excited. I kind of want to share with someone sometimes just so someone can see how great they are (my numbers). I know I am doing the right thing when I am on the same stuff (and bet it earlier) then 30-50% of Right angle sports stuf. You are right, I think a lot of cappers looking at the same stuff with CBB totals. I know what it is but I am not saying. Eventually the books will catch on but until then I am enjoying this.

FW- merry christmas to you also. The GF cried when we walked down the steps this morning and she seen under the tree. I actually felt really good about it. She had no idea. I did a really good job decorating eveything while she was a sleep. Our animals mean everything to us.

SSI_ Merry Christmas to you. Seems like you havent been around as much. Keep the passion my friend.

Rail- I capped the games then shopped. I pulled the trigger if I found a great number. Those were sides, not my strong points but the market defined them as good solid plays. My totals averaged 2 points off the same night. i have had 5 straight winning days of cbb totals and 7 of 8. They are unreal. Going to start doing 1st half stuff also. May as well. Not 100% sure what you are saying. Please explain if you see this.

BP- Always contests if you look around. i dont know about baseball one. That might be tough. Think it might be hard with a daily sport. The basketball one i am in starts in a week only saturday games. Hope it donest interfere with what I am trying to do. Horse racing ones all over the place. Cant wait too explore them later. Poker tournies are everywhere obviously.

Being talked into going too look at lights. This place is about 20 minutes at least from house. Weather is awful today here. Kind of puts you in the x-mas mood for vegas that is. Rain and strong winds. I dont want too leave the house but this does put an end to all this x-mas stuff after I do this last thing. If not this will get brought up again this wekend I guarantee it. So I probably will go.

Got orgainized a little today and ready to kick in gear starting tomorrow. Made a few NBA totals plays today. Just had great bets all day but nothing to show for it it looks like. Had over 190 Orlando, over 200 lakers, over 190 Cleveland, under 195 Portland, under 201 Phoenix. Solid peak numbers but overall looks like a losing day.
 
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Though I think this is a tough week to bet the NFL (week 17 always is) I just wanted to post my plays and the numbers I got them at to show others how important this part of betting is. Timing the market and betting great numbers mean everything. This may not sound right but I think most will undertsand exactly what I mean when I say "I dont care so much about the results of the bets as much as I do about if I made a good bet". Now sure winning and losing a bet mean everything and is always the ultimate goal but what i mean once the game starts and they play it then everything is out of my control with this. Everything will take care of itself. All I can do is get down at peak numbers and hope from there that I did the best i can at this. Though perfection is the goal it isnt realisitic, it is more about being consistent. I am going to miss on some, everyone does.

Here is what I have played (so far):
NFL:
Oakland +13
New Orleans +3 -120
Pittsburgh -10
Washington +3.5 -115 (last week at lookahead lines)
Arizona -6.5 (missed good number)
Jacksonville +13
Buffalo +7
undder 40 New England (biggest play of the year , moneywise. Will play back a big chunk soon)
NBA:
under 199 Sacremento
under 220.5 Ny Knicks
over 185 Cleveland
CBB:
Illinois -21
Loyola marymount +22.5 (oops, still think it will move down soon)
Yale +17.5
Sienna +5.5
under 105 Denver
under 133 Arkansas Little rock
over 126 Purdue
W Kentucky +7
under 124 N Iowa
under 141.5 New Mexico St
under 149 Marshall
Air Force -10
Fordham +6.5
Richmond -7
Pepperdine +13.5
NCCAF:
Missouri -13.5
NC St +7.5

Just a sampling of an average type Sunday. Still a lot more to come later when NCCA hoops comes out with the rest of their totals. I would estimate around 50-60 plays when the day is all over. Pretty good size day today.

My biggest advice to anyone who wants to do this at a high level is you have too do more then everyone else too win at this. It is that hard. In fact I still dont think I do enough at times and I get made at myself for it. It is very hard to stay focused completely all day long but that is also what is needed. You have too be one step ahead of the competition (the other bettors not the books or they will beat you too the better numbers). It is probably unrealistic that I get every god number that was out there during the day but I get disgusted with myself if I miss out on a great number for whatever reason. I feel I missed a half dozen or so games I liked yesterday at the good number, then you have too decide what to do with the game if you miss the great number (I usually pass). I believe the edges are that small. Like I said I am probably too hard on myself for this. The key too me is I have been able to put together numbers that are in line with the books so U can forecast line movement at a very high rate with hoops (esp NCAA) and a little lower level football. It use to be all about cherry picking any off number at a square book, since I moved out to vegas it has been being able to take this up a few notches and now be the originator a lot of times. So I have really changed in those regards and I am able to play at some of the bigger books now as timing is the more important thing now and taking leads. Most of the above plays (if not all of them) were played at widely availibile numbers when I bet them. The market moved with me on them is why I have percieved value.

(Let me add these plays are not for anyone to follow unless you can get the same or a better number then the one i have with no known injury involved. I would not advise tailing any of these at worse numbers. The number being off is the reason why I like the bet. I am sure most know that but just wanted too add.)

Good luck to everyone today!!!
 
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