"I Just Killed My Mom & Sister," Dallas 911 Call

[hosnatcher]

Here goes a thread where a black kid killed his brother and the comments are taken to a different level.

http://www.therxforum.com/showthread.php?t=922744&highlight=

"It's a ghetto thang..."

"sad to say but it sounds like the kid did us a favor by taking out his brother.

"a lifetime in prison for this kid sounds like a much better life for this kid and for us."

"He'll be released pretty soon as a totally fucked up young man with prison training."

"Regardless of the horrible environment the kid may have been brought up in, he's still a nut job who would probably kill someone later in life if he hadn't of done it now... "

"I agree. Bringing an unwanted child into this world is not good. Let the animals abort all they want. The government should even offer incentives for these animals to get their tubes ties and get vasectomies. "

 

[HacheMan]

A beautiful sister she was too......



Horrific: Jake, right, told the 911 operator that he shot dead his 15-year-old sister, Mallory, left, as she left her room, and continued shooting her as she fell down the stairs

 

[HacheMan]

Family ties: Jamie Evans, left, and Mallory, centre right, were both killed; the two other daughters and Jamie's husband were not in the house at the time of the murders

 

[hosnatcher]

I bet the motive was some Ferris Bueller type shit were mom bought him an Ipad and her sister a car. So he got mad.

 

[SoCal]

Unless your as skinny as me and have tried that Zyrtec-D you cant imagine how fucked up you get on that shit. And then combining it with those other meds is a recipe for insanity. I took 1 tablet, tripped out all that day and wouldnt think of putting another in my mouth .
I feel sorry for the kid I really do.

Tell us more about the symptoms you endured... how do you define "fucked up" ? Just curious because there is no logical explanation for any of the kid's story yet. I was assuming he has an imbalance of some kind, and it is mind blowing to even fathom that an OTC allergy med could cause insanity. I know benedryl kicks my ass like nothing else when I need allergy control. I am always reminded of Pink Floyd's "comfortably numb" when I take benedryl. Nothing crazy... but definetly mind altering if I stay awake for the show. and yes - I know zyrtec is the Rx in question here. I am just relating an allergy med experience generally speaking

 

[CowboyT]

I agree with Hos and I'm white. It's always a different reaction when a kid from a $480k home from Dallas kills his family vs a black kid from Chicago from the projects kills a mother and child in a drive-by...or whatever. Both occurences are tragic. There are always a bunch of people that basically say, "the ghetto black kid was bred for it" and that "there must have been something 'wrong' with the rich white kid". The problem is that there is something wrong with the culture where anyone - black, white, rich, poor - kills for very little reason (a fight with a neighbor, 20 bucks, bullying, etc). That's where everyone should focus their energy. The loss of life is not as a cataclysmic event as it should be for anyone in our culture, especially at a young age.

The only course of action for a young (man) that feels like he is getting the shaft from his environment is to kill. That's the truth on both sides of the black/white or rich/poor coin. Maybe it's the environment that teaches him to kill, discludes him for not being "good enough", or teaches him that drugging himself will solve his problems is to blame?

 

[KillaRSox]

I think the kid was on more than allergy medicine...

Very sad story, feel terrible for the rest of his family.

 

[hosnatcher]

I agree with Hos and I'm white. It's always a different reaction when a kid from a $480k home from Dallas kills his family vs a black kid from Chicago from the projects kills a mother and child in a drive-by...or whatever. Both occurences are tragic. There are always a bunch of people that basically say, "the ghetto black kid was bred for it" and that "there must have been something 'wrong' with the rich white kid". The problem is that there is something wrong with the culture where anyone - black, white, rich, poor - kills for very little reason (a fight with a neighbor, 20 bucks, bullying, etc). That's where everyone should focus their energy. The loss of life is not as a cataclysmic event as it should be for anyone in our culture, especially at a young age.


The only course of action for a young (man) that feels like he is getting the shaft from his environment is to kill. That's the truth on both sides of the black/white or rich/poor coin. Maybe it's the environment that teaches him to kill, discludes him for not being "good enough", or teaches him that drugging himself will solve his problems is to blame?

Thank you CowboyT. If you toss race completely out of the equation you would think more pity would go to the disadvantaged person who goes out and kills who grew up in a troubled environment were drugs, gangs, violence and vagrancy was an every day norm. Instead the pity goes to the kid who grew up with all of the love, money and breaks yet chants of this poor kids life is ruined rings out. We are all brought into the world the same way naked, crying and unlearned.

 

[SoCal]

google zyrtec and some creative words of your choice... insanity, anger, etc... this is what I did after reading poster "pokerplayer's" post. The first run thru of the story I dismissed allergy meds as having any relevance. After reading pokerplayer's post I did 2 minutes of google work and found interesting posts from all over the internet regarding side effects like severe anger and feeling's of insanity. I'm no medical expert or investigative extraordinaire... I just used google. The kid is emotionless, like he is numb. Not saying it is zyrtec, but it's certainly an avenue of possibility to be considered.

 

[WorldNumberOne]

i think you guys are generalizing to much... i think the majority of intelligent people look any senseless killing as tragic and wonder what the killer was thinking and going thru. i dont believe the masses think the way a couple of you in here do .

 

[CowboyT]

...grew up in a troubled environment were drugs, gangs, violence and vagrancy was an every day norm...

That's the issue. We fight wars and spend billions in other countires where this is still a bigger problem at home.

Instead the pity goes to the kid who grew up with all of the love, money and breaks yet chants of this poor kids life is ruined rings out.

And that's not right, but we shouldn't just chuck him off as a fuck-up. The problem is the culture - white, black, or otherwise.

It teaches:

Feeling bad? Kill
Bad feelings? Kill
Bullied? Kill
Disrespected? Kill

 

[hosnatcher]

i think you guys are generalizing to much... i think the majority of intelligent people look any senseless killing as tragic and wonder what the killer was thinking and going thru. i dont believe the masses think the way a couple of you in here do .

I assume the people that don't comment at all don't think one way or the other. In their eyes it is just another day another senseless death. For the ones that do respond in a certain way that might be considered insensitive or overly sensitive I blame the media and the propaganda more than anything. Here we have people doing google searches on OTC allergy medications wondering wow can that really cause somebody to murder their family only because it is mentioned in the article. The media has a way of steering a thought process the other way when it is a black person involved. They don't ask around to see what kind of medication they are taking or if they are seeking therapy or if the person was abused or deprived. They just make sure to get in the "possible drug or gang related" or my favorite "toxicology reports are still pending" at the end of the story piece.

 

[SoCal]

i think you guys are generalizing to much... i think the majority of intelligent people look any senseless killing as tragic and wonder what the killer was thinking and going thru. i dont believe the masses think the way a couple of you in here do .

agreed. black or white, i look for explanations. In some cases, I might have empathy for a criminal... regardless of race. I don't have any empathy for this kid at this moment because I don't know enough. maybe he is evil. If that's the case.. lock him up and throw away the key. on the other hand ... if "McNeil Consumer Healthcare", makers of zyrtec, have unleashed a drug on our population that causes insanity, then lock THEM up and throw away the key.

 

[SoCal]

I assume the people that don't comment at all don't think one way or the other. In their eyes it is just another day another senseless death. For the ones that do respond in a certain way that might be considered insensitive or overly sensitive I blame the media and the propaganda more than anything. Here we have people doing google searches on OTC allergy medications wondering wow can that really cause somebody to murder their family only because it is mentioned in the article. The media has a way of steering a thought process the other way when it is a black person involved. They don't ask around to see what kind of medication they are taking or if they are seeking therapy or if the person was abused or deprived. They just make sure to get in the "possible drug or gang related" or my favorite "toxicology reports are still pending" at the end of the story piece.

If you read my posts, I clearly state that I dismissed zyrtec after reading the media story. It was ONLY after reading pokerplayer's post on this very forum in this very thread that I considered it. Do you see the connection of my curiousity based on his post ?

 

[Doug]

Thank you CowboyT. If you toss race completely out of the equation you would think more pity would go to the disadvantaged person who goes out and kills who grew up in a troubled environment were drugs, gangs, violence and vagrancy was an every day norm. Instead the pity goes to the kid who grew up with all of the love, money and breaks yet chants of this poor kids life is ruined rings out. We are all brought into the world the same way naked, crying and unlearned.

that's what was probably missing...

a kid would be better off in an environment like on " Everybody Hates Chris" with parents that care...

 

[vinscully]

If you read my posts, I clearly state that I dismissed zyrtec after reading the media story. It was ONLY after reading pokerplayer's post on this very forum in this very thread that I considered it. Do you see the connection of my curiousity based on his post ?

There's only one shrink allowed in this thread.

 

[vinscully]

I love the selective amnesia that is going around all of a sudden. I have never seen a killer get such concern, sympathy and his crimes so downplayed. If he was black he would be getting skewered right now by The RX. People wouldn't be wondering what the square footage is in the house.

"This is sad...kids life is over. "

"heartbreaking... sweet house they lived in.."

"If you think how much that kid will mature and change between now and 27, and then from 27-37, and so on, it's incomprehensible to try to understand what he will have to live with and rationalize as time goes on." "Obviously not defending him but 17 should be such a happy period of a persons life, whole story is tragic at every level."

Seems to me your main point in all this is I may or may not have said this about a black person, thereby implying it would have been ok if I had but it's not if I say it and he's white.

Why didn't you just say: 'Would you have said this about a black person,?' and I would have said 'No, I'm racist.'

Would have saved you a few self righteous posts.

The irony of you bringing race into a subject where race wasn't even on the table, and then lecturing people on what they should be thinking because it's ok with you is pretty funny.

 

[Enfuego]

That's the issue. We fight wars and spend billions in other countires where this is still a bigger problem at home.



And that's not right, but we shouldn't just chuck him off as a fuck-up. The problem is the culture - white, black, or otherwise.

It teaches:

Feeling bad? Kill
Bad feelings? Kill
Bullied? Kill
Disrespected? Kill

You think drugs, violence and gangs is a bigger issue than confronting terrorists who want to kill all of us?

 

[hosnatcher]

I would have to dismiss the drug to even though I have read horror stories on that Chantix shit. I guess one of the members of Edie Brickell & The New Bohemiens wigged out on Chantix and was killed by his neighbor.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Carter_Albrecht

I figure it is an over the counter medication and enough people have used it to determine the side effects. So if you feel like killing someone you love then just don't do it. The drug doesn't squeeze the trigger the person still has to commit the crime.

If I had to guess I would have to say this kid let his emotions get the best of him and he committed a crime that he will have to live with and wish he can take back for the rest of his life but sincerity will not dismiss his actions. A good attorney and a worthless jury might.

 

[WorldNumberOne]

it will be an insanity plea and i'll say he'll be out of prison or an institution in 20 years.,,