I doubt there is anybody here making a living from betting sports .

[Heartman]

I've posted my professional gambling story here before. I qiut my pizza delivery job on July 25th 2004 and went Bankroll only, no other source of income(with 2 exceptions) to June 23rd 2007. 35 months.

The passing of the Frist law killed my chances of continuing as a Bankroll Pro.

The way I did it was by specializing in a smaller sport, Nascar, and studying/researching my@ss off. In one 9 month season, I watched over 200 hours of Nascar film and had over 200 pages of hand written notes.

For those who don't believe me, I have over 1500 posted Nascar picks, mostly at majorwager.

It can be done, but it takes a lot of work and dedication.

 

[bookie]

I've posted my professional gambling story here before. I qiut my pizza delivery job on July 25th 2004 and went Bankroll only, no other source of income(with 2 exceptions) to June 23rd 2007. 35 months.

The passing of the Frist law killed my chances of continuing as a Bankroll Pro.

The way I did it was by specializing in a smaller sport, Nascar, and studying/researching my@ss off. In one 9 month season, I watched over 200 hours of Nascar film and had over 200 pages of hand written notes.

For those who don't believe me, I have over 1500 posted Nascar picks, mostly at majorwager.

It can be done, but it takes a lot of work and dedication.

What would you consider a good tip when you delivered pizza?

 

[Heartman]

$1 was fine for me. Even 50 cents was o.k. I'm not a greedy person.

 

[bookie]

$1 was fine for me. Even 50 cents was o.k. I'm not a greedy person.

50 cents? The bigshots around here boast $10 tips.

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

I've posted my professional gambling story here before. I qiut my pizza delivery job on July 25th 2004 and went Bankroll only, no other source of income(with 2 exceptions) to June 23rd 2007. 35 months.

The passing of the Frist law killed my chances of continuing as a Bankroll Pro.

The way I did it was by specializing in a smaller sport, Nascar, and studying/researching my@ss off. In one 9 month season, I watched over 200 hours of Nascar film and had over 200 pages of hand written notes.

For those who don't believe me, I have over 1500 posted Nascar picks, mostly at majorwager.

It can be done, but it takes a lot of work and dedication.

Any inside info in the pits.....red neck heaven

 

[Heartman]

Be very careful this weekend at Watkins Glen. What usually happens here is good racing for the 1st 80 laps. Then with 10 laps to go every driver starts pushing hard . It becomes a crashfest. You may handicap this race perfectly but still lose money due to late race craziness.

 

[Santo]

this is my interpretation of how it works for the majority of gamblers in general. just think about it. i deposit 250 at the greek. i tell myself if i hit this bet im going to withdraw my money. you hit the bet, your balance is say 450 now. now you think wow, that is easy, and that thought about getting the 450 out flutters away. you hit 2 more in a row now, up to say 700. you are invincible. you make your next bet, for say 200, you lose. you make another bet, you lose. then eventually you end up pissing it away in the casino or losing it to end back at 0.

see the book knew they had you beat when you were at 450 placing the next 200 bet since they knew if you were smart you would've withdrew the 450 once you won it, instead of trying to go for more.

that is why i say its fundamentally flawed where literally nobody wins in the long haul. very very very very few people able to get out after feeling so great about winning a bet.

This is how it works for gamblers with no strategy, plan or self discipline. You're correct that psych profile won't ever win long-term, no matter the quality of information they receive/obtain.

 

[gtc08]

This is how it works for gamblers with no strategy, plan or self discipline. You're correct that psych profile won't ever win long-term, no matter the quality of information they receive/obtain.

9 out of 10 gamblers have no strategy, plan, or self discipline. thats why we choose to gamble, it caters to people with that mindset.

im reckless with the money i put in, but i can be reckless because the money i put in is entertainment money. it isn't money being taken away from money going towards bills, extra money that i choose to gamble with at the end of the month after bills, savings, expenses, etc.

thats where people get in trouble. they end up using bills, expense money and blow it on gambling instead.

the reason we choose this gambling is because almost all of us have no self discipline, strategy, or a plan. thats what gambling is, on a whim, roll of the dice, unpredictable. if we were into self discipline, strategy and planning we'd be in the stock market instead of betting on sports.

thats why i dont manage my investments or stocks because im not that type of person. neither is 90 percent + of the people here and gamblers in general

 

[bullets]

Being up money and making a living are two different things.

Pops makes a living doing this. When we had our College hoops thread going, I made close to 40g from January to March. That is betting 500 a game. Football was good to. Pops being gone, changed this for me.

This year I had a terrible hoops season and I am now up for the year because I have had a very good baseball season. I have no clue why it is so good because I am only a fader of cappers and numbers. I think I am just getting lucky every week.

Even with all this, there is no way I could do this for a living.

 

[gtc08]

Being up money and making a living are two different things.

Pops makes a living doing this. When we had our College hoops thread going, I made close to 40g from January to March. That is betting 500 a game. Football was good to. Pops being gone, changed this for me.

This year I had a terrible hoops season and I am now up for the year because I have had a very good baseball season. I have no clue why it is so good because I am only a fader of cappers and numbers. I think I am just getting lucky every week.

Even with all this, there is no way I could do this for a living.

the number of people who can pull this off professionally is equivalent to the amount of people who can get into harvard or yale law. thousands of people apply, maybe 5 percent are admitted. thousands of gamblers try, id say less then 5 percent are successful.

i would say max 3 people on this forum have the capability to pull it off. everyone tries pretty much and fails. tiny remote minute amount can make a living off of it. there mindset is different then the 99 percent of gamblers.

 

[Santo]

It's a lot easier for Non-Americans also.

 

[krk1030]

It's possible if you treat it as a job not a hobby. It's like owning your own business, you can work when you want but you have to put in a lot of hours to be successful.

 

[REDEYE]

It was hard not to make money up until US Govt, got involved again. With reduced vig, free half points off of 7, Pinny, nice bonuses, and viable transfer options like Pay Pal and Neteller, it was like taking candy from a baby. Those days are long gone, thats why its not a good time to be playing right now.

 

[bellyputter]

A lot of strong opinions and good discussion in this thread. Just because winning at sports wagering is very difficult, doesn't mean it can't be done on a consistent basis. The number #1 reason people fail, is they are undercapitalized. This causes constant problems in decision making. Good Luck

 

[macb]

I would rank knowledge and discipline right up there too.:toast:

 

[billhill999]

Not me...I earn my $$ thru hard work and gamble for fun and to make $$

This is the essence of BillHill.
Been using the same postup for 10 years.

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[PatPatriot]

I watched over 200 hours of Nascar film and had over 200 pages of hand written notes.

Fuck that.I'd rather mop floors at the peep show.

You need a huge BR.I think the test for making a living at this is if you can build your BR from say 10K to like 35K in a three year period.
If you can discipline yourself to do this than you can do it for a living,grasshoppers.
I've done this test of discipline myself...for like 3 mos. before i fall off and fuck up.
But most gamblers are who they are, if it actually takes work and discipline they/we don't want any part of it.

 

[WorldNumberOne]

A lot of strong opinions and good discussion in this thread. Just because winning at sports wagering is very difficult, doesn't mean it can't be done on a consistent basis. The number #1 reason people fail, is they are undercapitalized. This causes constant problems in decision making. Good Luck

truer words have never been spoken here ...

 

[magillagorilla]

Being up money and making a living are two different things.

Pops makes a living doing this. When we had our College hoops thread going, I made close to 40g from January to March. That is betting 500 a game. Football was good to. Pops being gone, changed this for me.

This year I had a terrible hoops season and I am now up for the year because I have had a very good baseball season. I have no clue why it is so good because I am only a fader of cappers and numbers. I think I am just getting lucky every week.

Even with all this, there is no way I could do this for a living.

pops was by far the most impressive capper I have seen on here.his over under system in baseball is sorely missed.I know this has been asked 100 times but what happend to the guy,is he ever coming back.

I have seen this thread tons of times and people always mention that can it be done and people are doing it but I have never read any names or any records or proof of their winning ways.

In my experience,a line service and now matchbook are two must haves to do this on a consistent basis. losing pinnacle was a major loss for me and probably for alot of americans who wager alot.

here are a few good articles and threads to help you research the subject I have saved on my hard drive.I put in fezzik because he helped me out for about a year and a half,I dont use him much anymore

http://www.professionalgambler.com/

http://www.sharpsportsbetting.com/boards/free/general/index.cgi/noframes/read/6227

http://myespn.go.com/blogs/truehoop...ambler-s-Take-on-the-Tim-Donaghy-Scandal.html

http://www.majorwager.com/forums/me...gambling-wiseguy-makes-money-off-squares.html

 

[bellyputter]

A lot of strong opinions and good discussion in this thread. Just because winning at sports wagering is very difficult, doesn't mean it can't be done on a consistent basis. The number #1 reason people fail, is they are undercapitalized. This causes constant problems in decision making. Good Luck

The second biggest negative to bring down a bankroll, are DISTRACTIONS! A real job(what's that?), school, kids, friends, obligations, alcohol+drugs, health issues, etc., etc. Any time restraint that makes you lose your focus, will cost you. Every point I'm making, has been learned over the years at the school of hard knocks. There isn't anything in life more valuable than experience!