I dont know if ISIS can be beat.

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Beliefs plays a big role in culture though. And as far as the war on drugs, we're losing because we are doing it wrong. We put non-violent people in jail, while creating a black market culture of violence.

Look at cigarettes, everyone smoked when I was a kid, everyone. Now it's a lot fewer. That didn't happen because we made them illegal, and put people in jail, it happened because it was legal and heavily regulated, all the while as we were changing the culture on how cigarette use was viewed through education.

There's a culture of distrust of the west there, because we try to force things with violence, instead of through free trade and good ideals. We can blame it all on their religion all we want, and keep using force but that's our mistake.

The bible says to stone women who cheat on their husbands. I don't see that happening, and it's not because we wiped out all the Christians, and changed their beliefs. It doesn't happen because our culture has changed.

Actually the New Testament says the opposite. The Mosaic law which was a temporal law, for a specific people, for a specific period of time held that law. That law has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, and it was Christ himself that repealed that law, which has been abbrogated for 2,000 years.
 

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It is rather clear that any religion or dogma which promotes a message that declares some humans as "closer to God", "God's chosen", (or any other variation which elevate any group of humans as most highly esteemed of God) is a religion that is detached from the core consciousness.


well done.......very well done............dagone..............
 

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Speaking as someone who spends a lot of time studying this stuff, and the current consensus, and evidence out there, this is complete and utter horse shit.
So how old as the earth then? Adam and Eve? People living to be 800 years? Noah's Ark? Sure there's stuff in the bible that has happened, a lot of it probably really happened, but Genesis, the part about creation, has been debunked. There's no scientific consensus that Genesis really happened, and the evidence against it, ie the earth's age, how long hominids have been here, fossil records, is very overwhelming.
 

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Actually the New Testament says the opposite. The Mosaic law which was a temporal law, for a specific people, for a specific period of time held that law. That law has absolutely nothing to do with Christianity, and it was Christ himself that repealed that law, which has been abbrogated for 2,000 years.

We don't see Jews doing this either. And soon the majority of Christians wont even care about gays.
 

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Um, with all due respect, you have no clue what you are talking about. There were no laws of physics and nature before the big bang. Our universe did not exist.

And that's the anomaly, the cause of the big bang. Nothing caused it? Physics is cause and effect, so simply saying there was no cause and it just magically happened goes against physics.
 

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I believe we don't really know how long ago that God created it until he decided to put Adam and Eve. " The earth was filled with void and without form ". Some call it the Gap period. Darkness or forms that are today's million year old fossils. U dig deeper u can even see that the angel Lucifer and 1/3 of the Angels were its inhabitants during those times before the creation
 

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There is literally nothing which can prevent someone - including children - from choosing happiness as a predominant state of mind.

Once one comes to realization that consciousness is eternal, all suffering can cease. What might be perceived as a horrible experience is a literal blip on the eternal time line. Those who might appear to be in 'horrible' conditions now will have endless fresh incarnations which will each be distinctive.

The Intelligence which brought all of us into our current physical state does not 'protect', 'obstruct' or otherwise create for us. Each of us creates our own reality 100%. If the Infinite Intelligence were to intercede - for even just one of us - it would remove the overall free creative will for all of us.

Weep not for the youth who currently live in violent environments. They are the most highly evolved version of human beings to ever exist.

And it is from this group of youth that higher expressions of human evolution - including but not limited to societies founded on non-violent behavior - will come forth

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I believe we don't really know how long ago that God created it until he decided to put Adam and Eve. " The earth was filled with void and without form ". Some call it the Gap period. Darkness or forms that are today's million year old fossils. U dig deeper u can even see that the angel Lucifer and 1/3 of the Angels were its inhabitants during those times before the creation

So dinosaurs and other prehistoric life never really existed?
 

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Did not say they didn't. Many think when the earth was created way before Adam and Eve walked the earth. Some verses still mention of giant beast I believe in Genesis

it all comes down to faith and what u believe.

Alllah u can go look at his tomb where he is buried , Budda, and others the same. But the truth is u can't go to where Jesus was buried , his body is not there. It is fact in history that the tomb was empty , the Roman guards were told by the emperor , even paid money to lie that his body was stolen , they shook in fear
 

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Are you not part of the Unity Church any more?

I actively participate in Unity org here and also financially support a couple other churches (not Unity) outside of Florida.

Neither Unity or the other churches with who I engage promote a message that affiliation with them is required in order to receive a higher level of esteem from God/Universal Mind.

In that sense, RenoC's charge of 'debunked' religions holds some serious water.

Jews are Not "God's Chosen People"; Christians who accept Jesus as their Savior (saved from what??) are not the only ones whose may commune with God following their time on this plane of existence; and one need not faithfully practice the rituals of Islam in order to qualify for preferred attention of God/Universe.

We are not only all equal in the 'eyes' of the Universe, we are all equally empowered with the same energy that created the physical world we currently perceive together.
 

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Not defending the bible account yay or nah. That's for another thread. But the bible does not say that Adam and Eve were the first .

Just says in the beginning God created the heavens and he earth . The earth was without form and void. Which implies that it was already created way before Adam and Eve .
 

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To the original thread Topic...."ISIS" will continue to exist for as long as they receive suffficient attention to attract more followers. Once the interest in giving them attention diminishes they will devolve just as all other organized groups practicing violent behavior have devolved for literally millenia.
 

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To the original thread Topic...."ISIS" will continue to exist for as long as they receive suffficient attention to attract more followers. Once the interest in giving them attention diminishes they will devolve just as all other organized groups practicing violent behavior have devolved for literally millenia.

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Big part of the reason that the problem exists (and some would argue that this is the entire reason) is the destabilization that Cheney/Bush Jr. left in their wake after Iraq.

Daesh (ISIS) sprang from the remnants of the failed Iraqi campaign.

There can be absolutely no doubt that the United States Government is chiefly responsible for where we are now with this Jihad.

That goes all the way back to what RunLeeRun mentioned. US Gov injecting themselves into Middle Eastern Affairs.

Cheney's Iraq Campaign though led directly to where we are now.

Cheney trashed Iraq, left behind chaos, Obama's Pimps seized upon the opportunity to utilize the Jihadists that sprang from a destabilized Iraq to overthrow Assad in Syria which, naturally, did not work because involvement in Middle Eastern Affairs simply does not work there is just too much discord present within the Middle East and too much $$$$ from the Oil (combined with too much domination by certain Tribes of that Oil $$$) for US Intervention in Middle East to work.

tl;dr answer: to a large extent US Policy, Actions (both past & present) have been instrumental in causing these problems. The Refugee Crisis and innocent people getting blown up.

So what exactly was the Cheney / Bush policy / actualization of Middle East disruption BEFORE the World Trade Center flight bombings?
 

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I don't think Isis is nearly as big and organized as the media would have us believe .

Not saying it's not something to not be concerned with . Just saying
 

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i don't think isis is nearly as big and organized as the media would have us believe .

Not saying it's not something to not be concerned with . Just saying

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Well damn for some reason my phone won't cap today
 

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I don't think Isis is nearly as big and organized as the media would have us believe .

Not saying it's not something to not be concerned with . Just saying

I certainly don't know, primarily because I don't pay any attention towards "ISIS" save for the couple minutes in this here thread and the flash of headlines from physical newspapers and/or web sources.

Saw one today that gravely informed "ISIS has a special unit of 400 men dedicated to wreaking deadly havoc blah blah blah"

And I thought, "Four hundred, huh?"

Global population of at least 7.25 Billion and so the major news outlets and pundits will promote to the other 7 Billion, Two Hundred and Forty Nine Million, Nine hundred Ninety Nine Thousand and Six Hundred people on the planet "BE SCARED! BE OUTRAGED! DROP EVERYTHING ELSE YOU ARE THINKING AND DOING AND DIRECT YOUR ATTENTION HERE!!!!"

And lest my analogy seem extreme, that is precisely how the message is being delivered in the four newspapers I saw this morning while gassing up. St Petersburg Times, Tampa Tribune, New York Daily News and USA Today....All used ALL CAP HEADLINES to make the events of THREE MEN in Brussels paramount to literally every other event and story on the planet from the lives of over 7.25 Billion people.

Quantum physics demonstrates that whatever we give our attention to Expands. Removal of attention leads to decay and devolution.

How do "we stop ISIS"?

Begin by redirecting your attention to something you would prefer to see expand. And you don't need an internet chat forum thread to do that.
 

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