I don’t want Trump to succeed. I want him to fail spectacularly.

[thecentaur]

I wouldn't put Mantis in that category.

Well from his responses down to his tagline it sure seems to fit. Granted I haven't had much interaction with him.

And Mantis, I was never scared of ole Terd which is what you seemed to be implying in your message Slapping-silly90))

I didn't want to be in a forum where someone like him could freely call people incestuous, pedophiles, scammers, and ghosts meanwhile pathologically lying about everything from what they did one weekend to what line they bet in their pick threads. You however want to skew it saying i was scared of him LOL. You take right after him it seems

 

[BZ]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA You have got to be kidding...That's your factual site? Oh man...

You do know who funds that site don't you? I'll help you out: The Annenberg Foundation

Google them and get back to me about how neutral factcheck.org is...

Man you really are clueless...

I'm very familiar with the organization. Also fact check provides analysis from all sides. I have asked you a number of times, where you derive your information yet you never provide...hmmm

 

[MantisToboggan]

Well from his responses down to his tagline it sure seems to fit. Granted I haven't had much interaction with him.

And Mantis, I was never scared of ole Terd which is what you seemed to be implying in your message Slapping-silly90))

I didn't want to be in a forum where someone like him could freely call people incestuous, pedophiles, scammers, and ghosts meanwhile pathologically lying about everything from what they did one weekend to what line they bet in their pick threads. You however want to skew it saying i was scared of him LOL. You take right after him it seems

I'm in a giving mood, if you don't like my signature line I'll change it to a different Mencken quote. I'll give you 5 options...

"On some great and glorious day the plain folks of the land will reach their heart's desire at last, and the White House will be adorned by a downright moron."

"Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance."

“The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring liars; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth.”.

"A national political campaign is better than the best circus ever heard of, with a mass baptism and a couple of hangings thrown in."

"Democracy is the art and science of running the circus from the monkey cage."

 

[BZ]

Nothing you said there had a shred of truth to it. Try again?

My original point was that only 25% of the country voted for Trump and he will lose the popular vote by at least one million and you indicated it was because of voter fraud. Talk about not having a shred of truth.

 

[Dave007inVegas]

Well from his responses down to his tagline it sure seems to fit. Granted I haven't had much interaction with him.

And Mantis, I was never scared of ole Terd which is what you seemed to be implying in your message Slapping-silly90))

I didn't want to be in a forum where someone like him could freely call people incestuous, pedophiles, scammers, and ghosts meanwhile pathologically lying about everything from what they did one weekend to what line they bet in their pick threads. You however want to skew it saying i was scared of him LOL. You take right after him it seems

It could be he's just evolving.

 

[festeringZit]

My original point was that only 25% of the country voted for Trump and he will lose the popular vote by at least one million and you indicated it was because of voter fraud. Talk about not having a shred of truth.

It's no surprise that a liberal sticks his head in the sand when it comes to Democrat voter fraud. It's expected.

 

[MantisToboggan]

It could be he's just evolving.

Pretty funny, Dave. Well done.

 

[BZ]

It's no surprise that a liberal sticks his head in the sand when it comes to Democrat voter fraud. It's expected.

Never said it doesn't exist, just not to the extent that the alt-righties think. And contrary to your myopic view, people don't have to believe in one ideology in this country. As an educated independent, I question policies on both sides and certainly don't buy into all the ridiculous alt-right crap.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Limbaugh wished Obama failed in 2008 because if he succeeded it would legitimize his policies. If you disagree with said policies then you wouldn't want the public to become OK with them. It's a fine POV really.

It's a fair argument even if those that make it are usually being melodramatic.

Where it begins to become problematic is if you are working in government and you would change your approach to your job based on if you are working with the other side or not for political gain. Obviously politicians on both sides do this, that type of hypocrisy is a bigger problem.

But just wanting someone to fail because if they succeed then the US won't look how you want it to look is really not as bad as it sounds.

 

[festeringZit]

Never said it doesn't exist, just not to the extent that the alt-righties think. And contrary to your myopic view, people don't have to believe in one ideology in this country. As an educated independent, I question policies on both sides and certainly don't buy into all the ridiculous alt-right crap.

I'm not an "alt-rightie"

I also question your claim to be independent.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Don't be ignorant. We all know it's true. It's always been the case with the DemoScum.

Who's ghost are you anyway?

Lol, not gonna lie, I know who he is, lol.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Mantis, Google and read "why the big lie about steve bannon?" It might alter your perspective.

Over 70% of the country don't believe or trust the lamestream media anymore.

Mantis is still in the other 30%.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Never said it doesn't exist, just not to the extent that the alt-righties think. And contrary to your myopic view, people don't have to believe in one ideology in this country. As an educated independent, I question policies on both sides and certainly don't buy into all the ridiculous alt-right crap.

"alt-righties think"

"educated independent"

"alt-right crap"

face)(*^%

Just post the hammer and sickle as your avatar and be done with it.

 

[MantisToboggan]

Over 70% of the country don't believe or trust the lamestream media anymore.

Mantis is still in the other 30%.

I don't trust anyone. Except Dave. He's never led me astray.

 

[BZ]

"alt-righties think"

"educated independent"

"alt-right crap"

face)(*^%

Just post the hammer and sickle as your avatar and be done with it.

So your post indicates that either there aren't independents (which a large number of the county falls into) or anyone that questions any of the right wing, or alt-right policies and conspiracies is a communist. Interesting thought process. But not surprising given your posts.

 

[SunDodger]

Proof of voter fraud in Washington State:
　
In 2005, there were more than 1800 votes cast than registered voters King County. How can you have more votes than registered voters in heavily Democratic King County?
　
They robbed Dino Rossi. Each recount, the Demcratic Board in charge of the recount were tossing out votes for Rossi on technical bullshit.
　
　
　
Republicans asked Chelan County Superior Court on Friday to set aside the election results, saying the number of "mystery votes" in King County was larger than Democrat Christine Gregoire’s 129-vote lead statewide over Republican Dino Rossi in the manual recount.
　
Rossi won the initial machine count by 261 votes and a machine recount by 42 votes.


http://www.seattletimes.com/seattle-news/new-error-found-in-vote-tally/
　

 

[SheriffJoe]

So your post indicates that either there aren't independents (which a large number of the county falls into) or anyone that questions any of the right wing, or alt-right policies and conspiracies is a communist. Interesting thought process. But not surprising given your posts.

Those 'independents' you speak of are conservatives fed up with both Big Government parties. This election was a 'reset', a return to normalcy - an overwhelming majority of Americans still believe government is the problem.

And yes, if you think it's perfectly acceptable for the federal government to takeover one-sixth of the economy (health care) even though it has no constitutional authority to do so, then yes, you're basically a communist - that 7% fringe who believe the government doesn't already have enough control and power over our lives.

That's what communism is - government controlling everything.

"alt-right" face)(*^%

 

[BZ]

First, independents are just that...independent. Second, I agree that the federal government has gotten way to big and interferes in many personal issues that it shouldn't. The election couldn't be a return "to normalcy" it's supposed to be a draining of the swamp...something different. Regarding healthcare, I don't think the federal government should run it and Obamacare hasn't delivered as promised. I do believe all Americans should have access to healthcare however.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Those 'independents' you speak of are conservatives fed up with both Big Government parties. This election was a 'reset', a return to normalcy - an overwhelming majority of Americans still believe government is the problem.

And yes, if you think it's perfectly acceptable for the federal government to takeover one-sixth of the economy (health care) even though it has no constitutional authority to do so, then yes, you're basically a communist - that 7% fringe who believe the government doesn't already have enough control and power over our lives.

That's what communism is - government controlling everything.

"alt-right" face)(*^%

They definitely aren't conservatives. Most polls show people oppose "Big Government", however, once you start asking them what that entails they tend to support many of our most bloated and inefficient federal programs.

They're just more conservative than 1 of our political parties that just went absolutely off the grid with their platform.

Even Matthews had enough...

 

[SheriffJoe]

They definitely aren't conservatives. Most polls show people oppose "Big Government", however, once you start asking them what that entails they tend to support many of our most bloated and inefficient federal programs.

They're just more conservative than 1 of our political parties that just went absolutely off the grid with their platform.

Even Matthews had enough...

Liberal and conservative are essentially outdated political definitions. Right now it's the smug ruling class elite vs the rest of us. Not just here, in Europe too. Merkel is the so-called 'conservative' in Germany (we'll call her a typical Bush/Romney/McCain Republican) but probably the most hated 'establishment' pro-EU politician in that country. As a result, her so-called 'conservative' party is being outflanked by a new rising Eurosceptic political party. In Britain, it's Brexit. In America, it's Trumpism (for now). If Trump doesn't deliver "draining the swamp", others will come along and fill the vacuum. To Trump's credit, as Matthews points out, he recognized a political void ignored by both parties and rode that train straight into the White House.