I don’t want Trump to succeed. I want him to fail spectacularly.

[Willie99]

on the topic of voter fraud, it happens and more so than we all know

two recent examples

1) the MN SC ruled voter fraud probably happened in the 2008 Senatorial race when Frankin defeated Coleman. It probably changed the result, but they said they were not going to overturn in the election. That seat gave Obama the super majority, and that's why we're suffering from the adverse consequences of Obamacare today.

2) this year, at least 1,000 people were removed from voter lists, here's what's going on

A) VA allows illegals to obtain drivers licenses
B) when you get your license, all you have to do is check YES you're a citizen and you can register to vote, no verification necessary (democratic motor voter laws at work)
C) the 1,000 people from just a few counties were caught only because they checked they were not a citizen when they RENEWED their licenses
D) Imagine how many people registered illegally AND didn't fuck up when they renewed?



I can't comprehend how people actually believe there's not voter fraud going on, and enough to swing close elections

and it's universally committed by one party, or by organizations funded by that same party, and it's always to register demographics that vote for that same party

whether it be felons or illegals or dead people in poor urban areas, it's never a Republican demographic

 

[NFLTrends]

I assume you also think that well over 1 million fraudulent votes were cast for Hillary.

Since this is a gambling forum, I would put the over under at:

500k -110

 

[festeringZit]

I assume you also think that well over 1 million fraudulent votes were cast for Hillary.

Well, it's certainly not "a few thousand" as you claim.

 

[Willie99]

I'd agree with you on the bold, but that's the danger of welcoming Bannon and his embrace of the alt-Right. I'm fairly confident that Bannon and Trump don't actually believe in white-nationalism, but they've legitimized it and allowed guys like David Duke to believe that a Trump administration is going to bring them back to glory. If David Duke believes it, why shouldn't liberals and minorities? Add on the fact that they've already admitted to keeping a list of enemies and you start to see Donald has an authoritarian bent. I'm not sure how anyone who supports liberty can feel good about the start of this administration.

Why is it that the go to response down here is to call someone a lefty when they go against the Republican party? I've probably voted Republican or Libertarian 80-90% of the time. I laid out one of my issue with Trump above. I'd love to see a real response (calling me a lefty doesn't count).

Is the bold a joke? Either you struggle with reading comprehension or you're just dishonest (maybe a combination of both?).

Not to mention, I never condoned anyone wishing our President fails. In fact, in another thread I said that I was hoping for his success and so should everyone else that did not vote for him. The only thing you got right is that I was pointing out that a lot of guys currently bitching about those hoping Trump fails were guys that hoped Obama failed.

please do define "what your issue is with Trump that you laid out above", because the only thing you're talking about is racism and white supremacists

 

[BZ]

If you claim it's just a few thousand, you are sorely deluded.

Read this headline, and let it sink in - he used an autopen to do this, which is illegal in and of itself, each of those cases was supposed to
be reviewed individually.

EXCLUSIVE: Virginia Gov. Pardons 60,000 Felons, Enough To Swing Election

Did it sink in yet?


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How is restoring voting rights to pardoned felons who served their time and completed their supervised probation voter fraud?

 

[BZ]

on the topic of voter fraud, it happens and more so than we all know

two recent examples

1) the MN SC ruled voter fraud probably happened in the 2008 Senatorial race when Frankin defeated Coleman. It probably changed the result, but they said they were not going to overturn in the election. That seat gave Obama the super majority, and that's why we're suffering from the adverse consequences of Obamacare today.

2) this year, at least 1,000 people were removed from voter lists, here's what's going on

A) VA allows illegals to obtain drivers licenses
B) when you get your license, all you have to do is check YES you're a citizen and you can register to vote, no verification necessary (democratic motor voter laws at work)
C) the 1,000 people from just a few counties were caught only because they checked they were not a citizen when they RENEWED their licenses
D) Imagine how many people registered illegally AND didn't fuck up when they renewed?



I can't comprehend how people actually believe there's not voter fraud going on, and enough to swing close elections

and it's universally committed by one party, or by organizations funded by that same party, and it's always to register demographics that vote for that same party

whether it be felons or illegals or dead people in poor urban areas, it's never a Republican demographic

Truly, none of us knows to what extent as it is hard to prove.

 

[BZ]

on the topic of voter fraud, it happens and more so than we all know

two recent examples

1) the MN SC ruled voter fraud probably happened in the 2008 Senatorial race when Frankin defeated Coleman. It probably changed the result, but they said they were not going to overturn in the election. That seat gave Obama the super majority, and that's why we're suffering from the adverse consequences of Obamacare today.

2) this year, at least 1,000 people were removed from voter lists, here's what's going on

A) VA allows illegals to obtain drivers licenses
B) when you get your license, all you have to do is check YES you're a citizen and you can register to vote, no verification necessary (democratic motor voter laws at work)
C) the 1,000 people from just a few counties were caught only because they checked they were not a citizen when they RENEWED their licenses
D) Imagine how many people registered illegally AND didn't fuck up when they renewed?



I can't comprehend how people actually believe there's not voter fraud going on, and enough to swing close elections

and it's universally committed by one party, or by organizations funded by that same party, and it's always to register demographics that vote for that same party

whether it be felons or illegals or dead people in poor urban areas, it's never a Republican demographic

Truly, none of us knows to what extent as it is hard to prove. Nothing suggests it's in the millions though

 

[NFLTrends]

How is restoring voting rights to pardoned felons who served their time and completed their supervised probation voter fraud?

Should we give then 2nd amendment rights as well?

 

[NFLTrends]

How is restoring voting rights to pardoned felons who served their time and completed their supervised probation voter fraud?

Should we give then 2nd amendment rights as well?

 

[BZ]

Should we give then 2nd amendment rights as well?

Different debate. I'm asking how is it fraud.

 

[festeringZit]

How is restoring voting rights to pardoned felons who served their time and completed their supervised probation voter fraud?

Please tell me you are not this obtuse?

 

[THawk+]

Bullshit- prove voter fraud.

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....You have got to be kidding!!! Have you had your head in the sand BZ???

You really are a outright, total 100% PHONY + FRAUD Voter fraud has been 100% proven by your people caught on video and by others...

You make yourself look dumber and dumber every time you post. Notice how you disappeared from climate change conversation real quick when some facts were presented.. Just ignore them as they don't fit into your AGENDA like a true progressive, liberal, socialist

 

[festeringZit]

How is restoring voting rights to pardoned felons who served their time and completed their supervised probation voter fraud?

I'll help you out, since you clearly need it.

The act of pardoning was supposed to be reviewed on a case-by-case basis, and him taking an autopen and pardoning them all (60,000), just in time for the
election, in order to influence the election was highly fraudulent.

 

[MantisToboggan]

please do define "what your issue is with Trump that you laid out above", because the only thing you're talking about is racism and white supremacists

Here's a sample of the issues I have. It bothers me that Trump/Bannon embraced the white nationalists because a) they believe in the cause or b) they used them as a means to an end. I'm pretty big on liberty so I have an issue with a candidate/President Elect who tries to buy off reporters, threatens the press, and keeps an enemy list. If you want to go the policy route, it bothers me that he's going to cut taxes and spend a trillion on infrastructure while leaving entitlements alone, which will assuredly make the deficit great again. The wall is waste of time and money, so is the phony promise to round up 11 million illegals. I think that's a pretty good start.

 

[thecentaur]

BZ and Mantis...the new Terd nation

 

[MantisToboggan]

BZ and Mantis...the new Terd nation

More nuanced political discussion.

 

[THawk+]

http://www.factcheck.org/2016/10/trumps-bogus-voter-fraud-claims/

HAHAHAHAHAHAHA You have got to be kidding...That's your factual site? Oh man...

You do know who funds that site don't you? I'll help you out: The Annenberg Foundation

Google them and get back to me about how neutral factcheck.org is...

Man you really are clueless...

 

[festeringZit]

BZ and Mantis...the new Terd nation

I wouldn't put Mantis in that category.

 

[BZ]

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA.....You have got to be kidding!!! Have you had your head in the sand BZ???

You really are a outright, total 100% PHONY + FRAUD Voter fraud has been 100% proven by your people caught on video and by others...

You make yourself look dumber and dumber every time you post. Notice how you disappeared from climate change conversation real quick when some facts were presented.. Just ignore them as they don't fit into your AGENDA like a true progressive, liberal, socialist

Look, I don't have the time nor the energy to educate the ignorant of which you and the couple of other trolls are. I get it, you don't believe in science, you believe all of the alt-right conspiracy theories, you have bought into all of the talking points, you provide no evidence from non-partisan sources and think Trump is your answer to all of your problems. Good luck.

 

[festeringZit]

Look, I don't have the time nor the energy to educate the ignorant of which you and the couple of other trolls are. I get it, you don't believe in science, you believe all of the alt-right conspiracy theories, you have bought into all of the talking points, you provide no evidence from non-partisan sources and think Trump is your answer to all of your problems. Good luck.

Nothing you said there had a shred of truth to it. Try again?