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most teams travel and play outside their area for recruiting reasons. Florida doesn't need too or want too. They can get 98% of their athletes from florida and Georgia.

I see no reason why Florida couldn't benefit by importing
talent from So.Cal. or Texas.

I see no reason why they wouldn't do very well with that.
 

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And, how many of these OOC games are on the road?

It is never discussed that Bama and Ohio State and the rest of the big boys have 8 home games every year, while the teams that they are compared to have only 6 or 7 (or maybe 5). If this was the NFL, people would scream bloody murder.

The one statement that always makes me chuckle. OF COURSE the non conference games are played at SEC stadiums that can hold and fill 100 k people. This is a for profit sport. This isn't government run. Why would Florida play at Central Michigan in a high school stadium. Auburn has no reason to play at Tole do when Hoover high school games sell more tickets
 

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The one statement that always makes me chuckle. OF COURSE the non conference games are played at SEC stadiums that can hold and fill 100 k people. This is a for profit sport. This isn't government run. Why would Florida play at Central Michigan in a high school stadium. Auburn has no reason to play at Tole do when Hoover high school games sell more tickets
The TV money alone for one game would eclipse 100,000 tickets with a least a hot dog each. Oregon/Florida could easily preempt an Obama speech on TV. But considering what the Ducks did to FSU in the Rose Bowl last year, I can see why Florida wants nothing to do with them.
 

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What does television have to do with anything? Games can be televised at either location.

Its also unclear why you think Mariota vs FSU in last season would matter at all to Jeremy Foley as he's scheduling games 10 years from now.

Just a bizarre response altogether....
 

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These threads are always hilarious. Penis envy at it's finest.
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(btw, i love how P12 guys always talk about how their teams go '2-3 time zones' to play a decent OOC away game. oh really? maybe because every other P5 school is at least 2 time zones away?)
 

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What does television have to do with anything? Games can be televised at either location.

Its also unclear why you think Mariota vs FSU in last season would matter at all to Jeremy Foley as he's scheduling games 10 years from now.

Just a bizarre response altogether....

Your ignorance of reality is too plain not to see. You should be embarrassed.

First of all, games don't need to be set up 10 years in advance to happen.
In case you haven't heard teams are bought out of deals all the time.
Opportunities open, and some big sponsor wants to ante up. It happens.

Of course you'd need to arrange to play a big game before you know when
it will be televised, or didn't you know about that either?

A guy like you should be grateful that Mariota plays for the Titans. Not about
who does or doesn't give a fuck about what he did or didn't do to FSU. Then
there's the next Duck QB... and then the next like always. That's something
Foley needs to think about... well not really for reasons I already alluded to.
 

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I'm not really sure what FSU has to do with anything. Did you mistakenly think they are in the SEC? Like that time you tried to tell me Jonathan Stewart played at Oregon St instead of Oregon?

You just don't know shit about football.Big time programs like Florida schedule 10 years in advance. It's supply and demand. You can't demand a SEC team plays at a shitty venue any more than MTSU can demand a pac 12 team come to Murfreesboro.

The next duck quarterback? What the hell? Tennessee has 4 former qbs in the NFL right now that never beat Florida. The only people worried about Oregon qbs are CFL/arena league General Managers
 
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Florida can only sign 25 kids a year max per sec rules. They will fill that quota from 4-5 states. They will get 16-20 from florida and Georgia ans pluck a kid here and there. They aren't going to spend the resources to fight 75 schools in southern cal, it just doesn't work that way and if you can't understand that then Immsorry. It's the same reason LSU loves playing in state schools (although their legislature likes for the money to stay instate and puts political pressure on it).

Usc liked to travel under Pete Carroll because they were selling an image and loved doing it. They did quite well doing it also.
 

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I'm not really sure what FSU has to do with anything. Did you mistakenly think they are in the SEC? Like that time you tried to tell me Jonathan Stewart played at Oregon St instead of Oregon?

You just don't know shit about football.Big time programs like Florida schedule 10 years in advance. It's supply and demand. You can't demand a SEC team plays at a shitty venue any more than MTSU can demand a pac 12 team come to Murfreesboro.

The next duck quarterback? What the hell? Tennessee has 4 former qbs in the NFL right now that never beat Florida. The only people worried about Oregon qbs are CFL/arena league General Managers

I see you don't understand the concept of common opponents either.
 

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Florida can only sign 25 kids a year max per sec rules. They will fill that quota from 4-5 states. They will get 16-20 from florida and Georgia ans pluck a kid here and there. They aren't going to spend the resources to fight 75 schools in southern cal, it just doesn't work that way and if you can't understand that then Immsorry. It's the same reason LSU loves playing in state schools (although their legislature likes for the money to stay instate and puts political pressure on it).

USC liked to travel under Pete Carroll because they were selling an image and loved doing it. They did quite well doing it also.

You probably don't know this but Washington gets what USC leaves behind in So. Cal.
They are 1000 miles apart and there's plenty of talent to go around.
USC plucks up its recruits from wherever it wants.

So are you saying that there's nothing for the Gators to benefit from everywhere else?
 

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Florida can only sign 25 kids a year max per sec rules. They will fill that quota from 4-5 states. They will get 16-20 from florida and Georgia ans pluck a kid here and there. They aren't going to spend the resources to fight 75 schools in southern cal, it just doesn't work that way and if you can't understand that then Immsorry. It's the same reason LSU loves playing in state schools (although their legislature likes for the money to stay instate and puts political pressure on it).

Usc liked to travel under Pete Carroll because they were selling an image and loved doing it. They did quite well doing it also.

#1. Its comical if you think anyone believes the SEC can sign a max of 25 kids a year regardless of what any "rules" might say. It's called loopholes. Hell Florida signed 29 in 2013. Georgia signed 29 this past year. Auburn singed 27 in 2015. Texas AM signed 26. Tennessee signed 29. Hell Tennessee signed 31 the year before that. Miss St signed 28. South Carolina signed 30. I could keep going but frankly don't want to look up any more and you get my point. Lets not act like the max of 25 kids is a hard line rule. I'd bet atleast 12 of the 14 teams in the sec have signed more then 25 kids atleast once in the last few years.

BTW Florida isn't even signing the top kids in Florida. Of the top 20 Florida kids on Rivals for 2016 class exactly 1 is currently a commit to UF. As far as Georgia, Florida has exactly 1 commit from the state of georgia out of the top 75 players in Georgia. So lets not act like they are killing the in state recruiting either.
 

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I agree with you to a point. Obviously there is alot more athletes in the state of florida and georgia then there is in say Michigan. So I'll agree that they will sign most of their kids locally. It makes sense for them to. I'm saying if they exposed their brand more outside the southeast then maybe they could pull some talent from the cali, texas, new jersey, ohio areas. But since literally no kid playing high school football right now has ever seen Florida play a football game within 1000 miles of where they live they don't have much of a chance of pulling recruits from anywhere outside florida and the few states around it.
 

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90% of players on Florida roster were offered scholarship by Oregon

10% of players on Oregons roster were offered by Florida

Different leagues....
 

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Guess I should have said 'under nfl contract ' . My mistake. That would include Tyler Bray,Matt Sims,Justin Worley. Guys got the shit kicked out of them in the SEC. Meanwhile Jeremiah Masoli doin work in the CFL. The league his clown school trained him for....which is why Oregon can't recruit qbs and Tennessee is turning them away
 
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#1. Its comical if you think anyone believes the SEC can sign a max of 25 kids a year regardless of what any "rules" might say. It's called loopholes. Hell Florida signed 29 in 2013. Georgia signed 29 this past year. Auburn singed 27 in 2015. Texas AM signed 26. Tennessee signed 29. Hell Tennessee signed 31 the year before that. Miss St signed 28. South Carolina signed 30. I could keep going but frankly don't want to look up any more and you get my point. Lets not act like the max of 25 kids is a hard line rule. I'd bet atleast 12 of the 14 teams in the sec have signed more then 25 kids atleast once in the last few years.

BTW Florida isn't even signing the top kids in Florida. Of the top 20 Florida kids on Rivals for 2016 class exactly 1 is currently a commit to UF. As far as Georgia, Florida has exactly 1 commit from the state of georgia out of the top 75 players in Georgia. So lets not act like they are killing the in state recruiting either.

you go do some research and come back to me. I'll give you a hint. It's 25 players per class. Schools signing more than one are filling loopholes and counting some back and whatnot, along with "greyshirting" which is what tennessee is doing EXTREMLY well. Slinging shit at the wall and seeing what sticks and flush out what doesn't.
 
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I see you don't understand the concept of common opponents either.

common opponents is actually a weak point in my opinion, but it does fill time on Espn talk shows. For instances, in week 5 Arkansas was beatable by probably 60% of P5 schools, November id say that number is down to probably 20%. Some teams lose a QB, a RB, a top round WR, d player etc to alter them as well as some coaches really coach still and improve teams throughout the year. So common opponent is usually very objective and vague
 
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If I ever said florida was signing the top kids in Florida I didn't mean that. I just meant they do get most of their kids from the state and region by a LARGE percentage. I will however give you the statement your asking for, florida does NOT have to leave the state to recruit if they get back to competitive team and good receuiting staff.

Washington on getting usc leftovers is meaningless in this convo. That is what I'm saying, usc gets its kids from anywhere it wants, Carroll did a great job of making it a national brand all over. Florida isn't going to do that and they don't have too (neither does USC).
 

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If I ever said florida was signing the top kids in Florida I didn't mean that. I just meant they do get most of their kids from the state and region by a LARGE percentage. I will however give you the statement your asking for, florida does NOT have to leave the state to recruit if they get back to competitive team and good receuiting staff.

Washington on getting usc leftovers is meaningless in this convo. That is what I'm saying, usc gets its kids from anywhere it wants, Carroll did a great job of making it a national brand all over. Florida isn't going to do that and they don't have too (neither does USC).

I think we agree on the general points. I'm just saying that if they did travel to more away games they could develop relationships in those areas and those areas could potentially be recruiting spots. Look at what Harbaugh is doing right now at Michigan. People hated those summer camps he did but mainly what they did was expand the already massive michigan brand into other areas. Michigan is pulling kids out of Flannigan high in Miami, Prattvile in Alabama, Paramus Catholic in New Jersey ect. And no, to this point they aren't pulling the elite, (except Jabril Peppers and it looks very possible Rashan Gary) kids but if they keep it up and the team wins i'll bet they start to. Look, Florida will always be fine recruiting just Florida, Georgia, Louisiana. I get that and theres nothing wrong with it. If done right it works. I'm just saying it would be nice for the game of football if they traveled outside the south east once and a while. Really its more about getting more good football games on each week then about UF and their recruiting. And its not just UF. Most schools rarely leave their little area of the country. I'm just tired of seeing power 5 big boy teams playing south eastern georgia st tech. Schedule one cupcake and then 1 decent power 5 team and one good team. Don't just get on the phone and dial up 3-4 cupcakes every year. And I'm not saying UF does that either. I realize they play FSU, but alot of teams do that year in and year out. I refuse to take Baylor serious as a football team until your ooc schedule isnt northwestern state, SMU and Rice. Cause thats what it is next year
 

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