to clarify glaringly obvious bias from the OP
1. hospitals make money from OUTPATIENT services and the emergency dept as azbob pointed out. patients staying in the hospital are not good for the hospital unless they can get them out quickly. even then, the margins are razor thin.
2. anything inpatient is likely a loss unless you are able to get quick turnaround and discharge quickly. inpatient medicine dept historically have never been that profitable and it is not uncommon for most to take losses because they take the sickest patients with no support from all the other departments.
3. icu supports all the other services. it is not designed to make money.
4. COVID patients are likely to do worse if intubated. they are also likely to consume other resources like consults, CRRT/dialysis, several expensive lab tests. they are more likely to have long hospital stay and thus the hospital will lose money on that patient.
5. the bill was written extremely poorly when a covid patient will get paid out like 300k in montana versus 16k for NYC. (https://khn.org/news/furor-erupts-b...tals-based-on-medicare-billings-not-covid-19/). on the flip side, i get why montana gets paid out more because rural hospitals are a bigger threat to shutdown compared to metropolitan areas.
6. private insurance exists because government reimbursement rates cannot keep hospitals open. hospitals around the country in rural areas close because most are dependent on medicare/medicaid payments. no surprise here the govt reimbursement for covid for big cities is painfully small and definitely not enough.
1. hospitals make money from OUTPATIENT services and the emergency dept as azbob pointed out. patients staying in the hospital are not good for the hospital unless they can get them out quickly. even then, the margins are razor thin.
2. anything inpatient is likely a loss unless you are able to get quick turnaround and discharge quickly. inpatient medicine dept historically have never been that profitable and it is not uncommon for most to take losses because they take the sickest patients with no support from all the other departments.
3. icu supports all the other services. it is not designed to make money.
4. COVID patients are likely to do worse if intubated. they are also likely to consume other resources like consults, CRRT/dialysis, several expensive lab tests. they are more likely to have long hospital stay and thus the hospital will lose money on that patient.
5. the bill was written extremely poorly when a covid patient will get paid out like 300k in montana versus 16k for NYC. (https://khn.org/news/furor-erupts-b...tals-based-on-medicare-billings-not-covid-19/). on the flip side, i get why montana gets paid out more because rural hospitals are a bigger threat to shutdown compared to metropolitan areas.
6. private insurance exists because government reimbursement rates cannot keep hospitals open. hospitals around the country in rural areas close because most are dependent on medicare/medicaid payments. no surprise here the govt reimbursement for covid for big cities is painfully small and definitely not enough.
Dude, none of this has anything to do with the issue at hand. It’s great info but zero to do with what we’re talking about.
You know this too and are just being ignorant. The more COVID patients hospitals get, the more they are paid by the federal government. This isn’t an opinion and there is no bias involved.
You can play the deny game all you want. I don’t argue with facts.
Enfuego you need to learn how to Forum Fight better when defending your side of this debate.
Type something like this for example:
Hey Nazi I will slap that Hitler moustache off your face if you want to spread this Lock Down
Propoganda in my thread. Now go take your stinky Brown Shirt to the dry cleaners and get the
fuck outta here.
Enfuego get a little more tougher on defending your side of the Lock Down and Covid 19 Debate.
It's obvious you are saying he is taking a beating on this forum.
