I was reading his stuff that he posted in 2008. I bumped the thread yesterday. It reminded me of Willie type shit. Arrogant stuff about Rasmussen and why certain polls are "rubbish". Talking about taking McCain at +600......then the guy leaves for years, doesn't answer to being completely wrong.....comes back in 7 years to tell the left to get used to saying president Cruz......all because he told the media they suck? Thought reminding him of his disaster predictions in 2008 was appropriate for those reasons
vitterd,
I was young and dumb in 2008. What an awful prediction that was. Since then I've learned what wins elections. It's the ability to inspire. I can't even imagine a more uninspiring candidate than John McCain. Oh yeah I can, Hillary Clinton.
Unless the GOP voters are dumb enough to nominate another stiff board like Jeb Bush or John Kasich, they are going to own the White House for at least the next 4 years.
I was young and dumb in 2008. What an awful prediction that was. Since then I've learned what wins elections. It's the ability to inspire. I can't even imagine a more uninspiring candidate than John McCain. Oh yeah I can, Hillary Clinton.
Unless the GOP voters are dumb enough to nominate another stiff board like Jeb Bush or John Kasich, they are going to own the White House for at least the next 4 years.
#1 Marco Rubio - Good looks, youthful, solid campaigner/speaker, steady at the debates. He also has GOP establishment backing on a lot of positions. When/If Bush falters I could really see the party elites rallying around Rubio and trying to push him as the front runner. I think he offers tremendous value at +600. I think he has very good shot at winning, maybe 35-40% which makes him a solid wager at the books.
#2 Ted Cruz - Tea party darling which is worth a ton in these low-turnout primaries. He's also a Princeton debate champion. He already got a nice bump from the last debate without even standing out too much, and as the field whittles down I can see him really standing out at the debates and moving people into his corner. He's getting north of 20-1 at many of the books, I think 20% chance is not too high of an outlook. He did something VERY smart that no other GOP candidate did, and that was going out of his way to NOT ATTACK Trump. Trump has even made very positive comments about Cruz on Twitter. When Trump momentum dies, I predict a good chunk of Trump's followers moving into Cruz camp. Cruz has fought the establishment at every turn. He called the Senate Majority Leader of his own party a liar on the floor of the senate. This stuff plays big among the base. Another positive edge for Cruz is that he's raised a TON of SuperPAC money. I believe in overall money, he's 2nd only behind Bush. He's a pretty shrewd guy and I don't see him making a horrible gaffe to take him out of the race.
I think these two will be the main cogs left after Super Tuesday comes and goes. The establishment will be backing Rubio, the Tea Party will be behind Cruz and it'll come down to these two.
Sek
100% dead on accurate
#2 Ted Cruz - Tea party darling which is worth a ton in these low-turnout primaries. He's also a Princeton debate champion. He already got a nice bump from the last debate without even standing out too much, and as the field whittles down I can see him really standing out at the debates and moving people into his corner. He's getting north of 20-1 at many of the books, I think 20% chance is not too high of an outlook. He did something VERY smart that no other GOP candidate did, and that was going out of his way to NOT ATTACK Trump. Trump has even made very positive comments about Cruz on Twitter. When Trump momentum dies, I predict a good chunk of Trump's followers moving into Cruz camp. Cruz has fought the establishment at every turn. He called the Senate Majority Leader of his own party a liar on the floor of the senate. This stuff plays big among the base. Another positive edge for Cruz is that he's raised a TON of SuperPAC money. I believe in overall money, he's 2nd only behind Bush. He's a pretty shrewd guy and I don't see him making a horrible gaffe to take him out of the race.
I think these two will be the main cogs left after Super Tuesday comes and goes. The establishment will be backing Rubio, the Tea Party will be behind Cruz and it'll come down to these two.
Sek
100% dead on accurate
Latest Odds at Euro Books. Rubio is getting close to odds on status. Lower than Jeb was at his best point. Jeb is on his way out. Be interesting to see how Marco and his camp handle frontrunner status.
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/republican-candidate
http://www.oddschecker.com/politics/us-politics/us-presidential-election-2016/republican-candidate
Of course left wingers like yourself are hoping the repubican
voter will pick Rubio as their candidate to face Mrs. Clinton.
In the unlikely event of a Rubio candidacy Mrs' Clinton to
counter that would surely pick as her VP HUD secratary & former
mayor of San Antonio Julian Castro who has far more clout
with the Latino Community than Rubio could ever imagine to have.
Clinton & Castro will campaign for Citizenship right away for the
illegals living here while if Rubio did the same he'd lose
the Republican base en mass. A Rubio candidacy would give
Mrs. Clinton the gretest landslide a Democrat has had since
Landon was demolished by Roosevelt in the 1930's. I can't think
of a state Rubio would be favored in, Rubio would be a disaster.
Actually, if I was supporting Hillary, Rubio would be one of the last guys I'd want, after Kasich. Those 2 are clearly the most dangerous for her, and would have a legit chance to beat her, Kasich far more. The people she'll beg for are Cruz, followed by Trump. Cruz would lose by double digits, in one of the big routs in POTUS history. Trump would be fun, and I hope it happens for the entertainment value and the R's who hate him having to come out and support him, , but he'd have no chance against her, sadly.
Ted Cruz's gameplan from the beginning.
From Politico:
From the start, Cruz and his political brain trust have divided the 2016 primary into four clear lanes: a moderate-establishment lane, in which he would not compete; a tea party lane, which he needed to dominate; an evangelical lane, where he had strong potential but little initial traction; and a libertarian lane, which began as the turf of Rand Paul."
“The players that were expected to be formidable in those lanes have not got the traction they had hoped,” Cruz said. “The most encouraging thing I would say is that I think three of the lanes are collapsing into one, which is the evangelical lane, the conservative tea party lane, and the libertarian lane are all collapsing into the conservative lane and we’re seeing those lanes unify behind our campaign.”
Right now the Cruz campaign has an army of 80,000 very enthusiastic volunteers in all the early key states.
Smartest man in the room?
From Politico:
From the start, Cruz and his political brain trust have divided the 2016 primary into four clear lanes: a moderate-establishment lane, in which he would not compete; a tea party lane, which he needed to dominate; an evangelical lane, where he had strong potential but little initial traction; and a libertarian lane, which began as the turf of Rand Paul."
“The players that were expected to be formidable in those lanes have not got the traction they had hoped,” Cruz said. “The most encouraging thing I would say is that I think three of the lanes are collapsing into one, which is the evangelical lane, the conservative tea party lane, and the libertarian lane are all collapsing into the conservative lane and we’re seeing those lanes unify behind our campaign.”
Right now the Cruz campaign has an army of 80,000 very enthusiastic volunteers in all the early key states.
Smartest man in the room?
To echo Guesser, Cruz has played this very well. He already has the Tea Party vote. He's going to grab a good chunk of the Evangelical vote if he can outlast Carson/Huckabee, he has a shot at Libertarians when Rand drops and he's in decent shape to snag the anti-establishment votes that are going to Trump and Carson if he can outlast them. He's done a fantastic job of being 2nd choice to a lot of these guys. I cannot stand the guy and will not vote for the guy but I respect the hell out of how he's played this.
Not sure, but he was always presumed to last pretty long by his $$$ and how he positioned himself. I see no path to the nomination for him. He could be 2nd, like Santorum last time, but with no shot to win. Would be scalpable though. Hope I'm wrong. Ted Cruz as the nominee will ensure the Dems sweep all branches, and name the next few SCOTUS justices, and while I don't want Hillary, a D House and Senate would be a good thing for the Country, IMO.
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This is the lowest I got him. Overall, I have $328 on Cruz to win $8095. Average odds: 24.9-1. I also have $200 on Rubio at +600. I have nothing on any other candidate.
Cruz is now currently +631 at Bookmaker to win the nomination. He is now the favorite to win Iowa at +195 after today's Quinnipiac poll of Iowa that put Trump 25%, Cruz 23%.
