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That's right, they led by 17 a good chunk of the way though, and the game was never in doubt.

I really am sure of this Nashville game. As I said, if this were last year when I had bad money management skills, I would have really opened up the bankroll on this game. You might say that Germaine's got it down, but the guy has NEVER WON A GAME AS A STARTER in the AFL.

I know that the Alley is not a place that teams look forward to playing in. James Baron has been getting the QBs faces lately... good for just under a sack a game since his return in week 3. Hillary is out... but with the addition of Grant, look for the rushing game to take center stage as Nashville now has two great FBs, and Grant can block like it's no one's business, as well as bringing a ridiculously quick rush to the table from the mack linebacker spot. Nashville allowing TDs only 66% of the time inside in the red zone.

Arizona continues to do things to beat themselves. They had LA beat. They had Tampa beat. But in each of those games, a critical mistake... Couldn't score from the 1 on 3 plays against LA. Bonner throws the pick that costs them the game @ Tampa. Arizona, -7 turnover margin... one a game basically... and consider that in game one they picked up 3 Nick Browder fumbles... and that was against GR... Arizona not even at 70% TD rate in the red zone... Arizona, most INTs in the game... paired with Nashville averaging over a pick a game... 79 penalties, 4th most in the AFL....

I'm sorry, the more talent in this game is Arizona, but the better team is Nashville. No way they should be getting any significant number of points at home. These guys have stuck tough with everyone they've played this year, and I expect something very similar this week, just with winning results.
 

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I think Arizona might surprise some people.

If you look at failed offensive possessions, why does Arizona fail to score? The main reason was Bonner interceptions. After that, Bonner incompletions. Bonner has been (mostly) ineffective this season. His pass rating this season has been a lowly 78! Compare that to typical starters - 9 out of 10 will have a PR of 90+, and most at 100+.

Now look at Germaine. He got off to a rough start on his first few outtings (as do all backup QBs). Fumbles first, then interceptions, but... His last few outings have been much better. In fact, he was flawless against LV once he came in for Bonner after the knee sprain. LV's only stop against him was a time-stop at the end of the second quarter.

Arena is all about offense. Graziani was great on a team that scored a lot, and just needed a lucky stop or two. 4th and 10 from your own 5, throw deep! Phili did terribly this year, because the "Graziani deep" offense changed to "Graziani ball control". Last week, they let Graziani go deep all game, and he won.

Back to Nas-Ari. Nashville is abysmal under either QB, because their offense is lacking. They are getting roughly 5.8 yds/pass attempt under either QB, vs. Germaine's 8.3. This translates into more fumbles and interceptions hurting Nashville (since they have to run more plays to score), more stops on downs, AND fewer red-zone defense chances versus Arizona.

Every once in awhile, you see the line move a certain way, and you say "That can't be right!" Then you just shrug it off, and bet it on game day.
 

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I think Arizona might surprise some people.

If you look at failed offensive possessions, why does Arizona fail to score? The main reason was Bonner interceptions. After that, Bonner incompletions. Bonner has been (mostly) ineffective this season. His pass rating this season has been a lowly 78! Compare that to typical starters - 9 out of 10 will have a PR of 90+, and most at 100+.

Now look at Germaine. He got off to a rough start on his first few outtings (as do all backup QBs). Fumbles first, then interceptions, but... His last few outings have been much better. In fact, he was flawless against LV once he came in for Bonner after the knee sprain. LV's only stop against him was a time-stop at the end of the second quarter.

Arena is all about offense. Graziani was great on a team that scored a lot, and just needed a lucky stop or two. 4th and 10 from your own 5, throw deep! Phili did terribly this year, because the "Graziani deep" offense changed to "Graziani ball control". Last week, they let Graziani go deep all game, and he won.

Back to Nas-Ari. Nashville is abysmal under either QB, because their offense is lacking. They are getting roughly 5.8 yds/pass attempt under either QB, vs. Germaine's 8.3. This translates into more fumbles and interceptions hurting Nashville (since they have to run more plays to score), more stops on downs, AND fewer red-zone defense chances versus Arizona.

Every once in awhile, you see the line move a certain way, and you say "That can't be right!" Then you just shrug it off, and bet it on game day.

Boy Daringly... you're wrong about this game being about offense. It's so not about the offense. Just like in any brand of football, even in the TD-happy AFL, defense wins championships. Ask any Orlando team, any Tampa team, any of the old school Arizona teams... oh yeah, and when San Jose held Arizona to 2 TDs for the game a couple Arena Bowls back. Short of the old Iowa Barnstormer teams, no one has won a championship without a top flight defense. Nashville has a top flight D... Arizona doesn't. I'll give you the fact that Arizona's had some tough breaks, but the comment you made about 5.8 yards per pass attempt is a bit skewed. Nashville takes the fewest shots downfield on average of any team in the AFL and it's not even close. They do more dinks and dunks than anyone in the AFL, and quite often run 6, 7, hell, even 11 minutes off of the clock on drives. Seems like we see it once a game that they're faced with 4th and 2 twice on a drive and end up running 11 minutes off the clock. Nothing wrong with a dink and dunk offense, especially against an opposing offense that wants to shoot it out. That's how you frustrate them. That's how LA frustrated them. That's how Orlando frustrated them... and that's how Nashville will frustrate them.

Nashville's proven that they know how to win games this year. They've stuck around to give themselves chances to win and put away the one game they really could have. Arizona keeps shooting themselves and can't play from behind. If Nashville gets up early, this could be a very ugly 40-34 win for the Kitty Kats.

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Anyone know why that Dallas/Colorado game went offline at Pinny? Just scouted all of the local newspapers, arenafan, and the AFL website and have found nothing.
 

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Never mind... just BetCris' opening lines... forgot they come out around now. No real surprises.
 

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Olympic moved the Dallas o/u from 103 to 106.5 in a very short period of time... I'd think this game would be an under game, but not a strong enough opinion to bet it.

Pinnacle finally dropped Nashville to 3 and consistently dropping. If you haven't bit, bite now before this game slides all the way to a pick 'em. Hopefully it'll be like the Chicago/Philly game when Chicago went from +8 to -2 by game time and they covered it all very easily by winning by, I believe it was 27, but don't hold me to that... it's irrelevent anyway. Cover is a cover is a cover.

YOU COULDN'T HAVE SAID IT BETTER GURU. GOOD LUCK TO YA!
 

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Wowsers! Now a LOVE Grand Rapids this weekend to win outright. For anyone that hasn't seen, they picked up Predators cast-off Damon Mason, which should make their secondary MUCH more dangerous. Just as a side note assuming that Mason plays in the game this weekend, I believe he's picked Graziani 4 times in his career... I can recall at least 2 from Orlando/LA games of old, but I believe the number is 4. Boy if GR can actually hold Philly a couple times, this game CAN be won by the Rampage. Don't be surprised to see Philly fall flat on their faces at home here.

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History of Offense vs. Defense in the AFL

*Only start reading this if you actually care about the history of the AFL and why some teams are way more successful than others in the league... it'll take ya awhile... took my about 30 minutes just to type out*

Glen Parker wrote a great piece last season about offenses in the AFL.
You run one of two offenses. I don't remember the names of them, but one
is a methodical offense that requires larger, possession type receivers
who can jump over their defenders and break tackles. The other is a
"shoot it out" offense that requires faster receivers that can run by
their defender on a deep route, whether it be a post, corner, or flag.
Offense A (possession offense) and Offense B (shoot it out) are proven to
be equally effective.

HOWEVER... The most efficient play in the entire AFL is??? WR screen.
That's right. The wide receiver screen. It's proven that a WR screen is
near impossible to intercept because of respect for the deep ball and
averages over 6 yards per attempt at it. This is a great strategy to use
for a few reasons... first off, it is almost impossible for something to
go horrifically wrong. It's a very high percentage pass with almost no
room for interception or sack. However, with low risk comes low reward.
This is the basis of offense A. 3 step drops with quick slants, curls,
and screens to your WRs that are too slow to make it in the NFL, but have
a big size advantage over their opposing DBs in most cases. Classic WRs
that fit this mold include Cory Fleming, Chris Jackson, Thabiti Davis,
and Etu Molden. Running the ball is also a must. Unfortunately, a lot
of teams have taken the screen out of the arsenal, meaning more slants
and curls, which ARE subject to being jumped by gambling DBs. I'll
return to this in a minute to explain why offenses are trumped by GOOD
defenses.

Offense B, in my opinion, is ridiculous. These are the offenses that
average insane yards per dropback/pass. Almost exclusive a 5 step drop
offense, which gives up many sacks, but also forces DBs into coverage
longer. Higher risk and higher reward. Receivers to small to be in the
NFL are used to run fly patterns on near every play. Tampa is beginning
to run this offense. Philly does. Grand Rapids does. Vegas does, but
only with Dolezel at QB (and Marcus Nash is an exception to the "small
WR" rule... there's a reason he was an NFL WR first), Arizona uses it.
And you see what all of their records are, right? Sure, there are teams
that have used this offense quite successfully, but you have to go back
to the Grand Rapids Rampage of '01-'02 and then back to the Kurt
Warner-led Iowa Barnstormers to find the last championships this offense
has won. Basically all of your tiny WRs are the prototypical Offense B
receivers.

Now, why defense will ALWAYS rule the day in the AFL... We all know that
this is a game of serve and volley. Break your opponent's serve, and
you're way ahead in the game. Offense A tries making it so there are
8-10 legit full offensive possessions for each team in a game. Offense B
tries making that number 10-12.

So how to counter offense A? ANY decent coordinator will just look at
tape of the early 90s Predators and Storm, where the WR screen was almost
eliminated from the AFL. Orlando was the first team in the AFL to use
the idea of press coverage. Durwood Roquemore was THE defensive
specialist in the AFL at the time, and made Orlando's defense go.
Orlando would tell offense A, which most teams ran at the time, to go
ahead and throw deep. Orlando was the first defense to take away the WR
screen by playing all DBs at the line. But the trick in this, was after
the intial bump, Orlando would back away into zone, much line the
Sabercats have done these past couple weeks. They wouldn't blitz the
mack linebacker, which would take away any quick crossing patterns. This
eliminates either the X or Y receiver from the play. The yo-yo receiver
(the one in motion) is almost always the deep threat on the play. He
should always be matched up with the best DB. The yo-yo almost always
lines up next to the receiver that is running the crossing, check down
pattern. That being said, the DB on the X or Y can easily switch into
man coverage with the yo-yo, with a deep safety covering. By this time,
the QB is on WR option 3, the X or Y that isn't running the cross. Most
of the time they are running a quick out, which is a purely timing route
disrupted by the bump coverage. By the time the QB figures this all out,
it's a sack or a bad throw. Nothing the offense did wrong. Everything
the defense did right. And every offense did it the same way. Not to
say it was a flawless defense, but Orlando averaged giving up less than
40 points per game in those seasons, including pitching the only shut out
in AFL history, holding 5 teams at or under 10 points, and hold many more
with less than 3 scores.

After teams figured out that they can't work this offense on Orlando, a
genius named Danny White came up with the idea of sending multiple men
into deep routes that cross each other down the field. This would cross
up the deep safety and leave someone uncovered. This is a very easy
thing to do. Send your yo-yo on a corner and your X/Y on a post. Leave
yourself a check down and you've got Orlando's (and by this time, most
everyone's decent defensive) scheme burned. In '93, Orlando won 13 games
by an average of over 20 ppg. They lost twice that year... @ Danny
White's Rattlers, and hosting the Arena Bowl against Danny White's
Rattlers. Both times, the same thing got Orlando... Hunkie Cooper
running those damn crossing routes that would cross up Roquemore. This
opened up an age of high flying AFL scores. Games were played in the
130s consistently after this for quite some time... that is until the
dawn of the true pass rushing lineman and linebacker.

This idea was created by John Gregory, Iowa's coach in the Kurt Warner
era. His offense was high flying and could drop 70 on anyone, but had a
tough time stopping the same offense on the other side of the field. He
decided that he was determined to stop this deep ball madness, and
decided to bring in some smaller, yet faster linemen. What he found was
a loophole in the AFL rules. Linemen would always line up parallel to
each other... What Gregory found was only a portion of your body, any
part of it needs to be in line with the offensive lineman. Once the ball
is snapped, you can rush as wide as you want. So Gregory created a more
modern pass rush in the AFL. His quicker linemen reeked tons of havoc on
QBs that would try these 5 step drops, a requirement for the crossing
patterns. He let his bigger linemen of before play mack linebacker and
give them a running start before making contact with anyone. Should a QB
try throwing a check down pass, the pocket was collapsing on him, and any
lineman could easily tip the ball at the line. Should he try throwing
deep, he'd better have a good offensive line, or he'd be in trouble.

Teams nowadays with the really good defenses run a hybrid of this. They
all know that there are about 10 plays in Offense A's playbook and
Offense B's playbook, and everyone in the AFL knows it. Yeah, there are
trick plays up everyone's sleeve, and they almost always work... but for
the most part, it's the same bullcrap 10-12 plays. So you're not fooling
a defense with your offensive alignments or routes. The offense though,
needs to guess right with its specific playcall on any given play. If a
defense thinks they're preparing for a dominant offense A playbook, a
bump and run, gambling style is the ticket. However, on those plays that
offense A tries turning into offense B... QB better be ready to read 3
DBs really quickly. Don't get me wrong... there is no exclusive offense
A or offense B... Everyone runs a bit of a hybrid... but there's two
bases. And defenses know what's coming. The KEY to all of this is
having the guys to run bump and run, having the linemen to rush the
passer, having the mack linebacker, arguably the most important position
on the defense, to be able to be a coverage, zone backer, and a monster
blitzer. Look at all of the teams with the greatest defenses in the
AFL... Orlando, had three monster mack linebackers before trading Grant.
Nashville: Alexander is a beast. New Orleans last year... Dan Curran.
Chicago last year. McGourty and McMillan. These guys aren't just
fullbacks. These guys can rush the passer like its no one's business.
Every thinks that Soul Train is so good in Philly because he demolishes
people when he runs... but he's too slow to play mack linebacker, thus
he's useless. That's the reason the line gets no pressure on the QB.

And in this game, regardless... all it takes is one stop sometimes.
That's all it takes. Because though offense B is more flashy and is
running less plays, thus giving less room for error, those plays are all
lower percentage plays. You wouldn't believe that Orlando runs offense
B, but they do. And they don't do it very well thanks... Offense A is
clearly the better offense in the AFL. It's more prone to fumbles and
4th downs, yes. But offense A will keep your quarterback standing and
will likely be fewer picks unless your QB is all-world. It's why
Graziani was good in LA. It's why Garcia is good in NY. It's why Warner
was good in Iowa. It's why Dolezel was good in Grand Rapids. They were
good. They were freaks. But if you don't have a freak QB that is THAT
good... and no one does in the AFL right now except New York, this is a
game that defenses win with their styles, not offenses with theirs.

And to say that the kicking game doesn't mean anything... tell that to
offense A when they've gotta run 20 more yards after the kick team leaves
them on their own 5 yard line to start drives. Remember, kicking a FG is
only half a stop, not a full stop. Missing a FG is as good as a
turnover. Kicking is worth a solid 10% of the game. Defense is worth
40%. Offense is worth 25%, namely your QB being the majority of the
importance. Coaching is 20%. The last 5% is that element of the AFL
that makes the game so exciting... it's called Lady Luck. And I don't
care HOW good you are. If you don't have that 5% on your side at times,
you can't win the Arena Bowl. THAT'S the element of the "bad beat" in gambling that also applies to winning the games.

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Okay, I can't help but wonder why Austin/Orlando is up to ELEVEN!!! That's why too many points in this game. In all honesty, with Orlando the way they're going right now, I don't know how anyone can bet on the Preds at this point. McEntyre AND Mason gone, a totally new secondary, a slumping QB, a line that can't protect its quarterback, and a coach who's gone insane with play calling and cutting the franchise players.

Anyway, this is just another bit of advice, that perhaps it's time to jump on Austin, as I think that line flies down tomorrow night when the last second bettors see all of this. Then again, perhaps they're all just basing their stuff off of stats, in which case, Orlando would be the play. Again, I'm just recommending that all non-Preds fans bet on Austin here... I can't do it myself.
 

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I don't understand it either. I grabbed AUS +11 at OLY yesterday figuring it would go down.

You say you can't bet against ORL? Well, just think, if they win but don't cover, you're happy on 2 grounds. And if they lose, at least you win your bet. The hard thing is betting ON your team and having them not just lose but not cover as well. If you bet AUS tomorrow that can't happen to you.
 

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I can root for my team to run up the score or score a BS TD. I can't root for my team to stop scoring. It's kinda why I have a hard time betting over/unders in Orlando games, especially overs. I know the offense sucks. I'm rooting for the defense to suck too if I bet over... lol...
 

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GURU--- THAT WAS SOME GREAT ARTICLE YOU WROTE ON THIS LEAGUE. MY QUESTION IS HOW DO YOU CALCULATE THE STOPS AND HALF STOPS TO RATE A DEFENSE . I KNOW YOU CAN'T WATCH EVERY GAME . SO ARE YOU GOING OVER EVERY PLAY IN THE BOX SCORE TO COME UP WITH THESE STATS?????

I HAVE ORL AS THE 3rd BEST DEFENSE BEHIND DAL , #1 AND LV #2.

OH , ON MY FAVORITE TEAM --- WHEN I WAS YOUNG AND NOT AS SMART AS I AM TODAY AND LIVING IN NY THE GIANTS WERE MY FAVORITE TEAM. BUT NOW THAT I'M OLDER , SMARTER AND LIVING IN THE VEGAS AREA I DON'T HAVE A FAVORITE TEAM , WELL SORT OF , NOW MY FAVORTIE TEAM IS THE ONE I HAVE MY MONEY ON THIS WEEK . I FOUND IT MORE SATISFYING TO BEAT THE BOOKS NUMBER THAN ROOTING FOR A PARTICULAR TEAM.
 

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Lol Tommy... Way to go with the team alligiance. That's clearly the ticket. The comment I've made before is my favorite teams in college football are the 'Noles, whoever's playing the Gators, whoever's playing the Canes, and whoever I bet on that week. Easier to do in CFB though... when there's about 9000 teams to choose from, it's easy to find a favorite and a least favorite.

It's funny you ask that question about the individual games. Regarding stops and half stops. Yeah, box scores are easy. I can probably count on one hand how many games I've missed this season (watching games includes TV, radio coverage, AFLNet, and gametracker), and three of those were while I was at the Orlando/San Jose game. But as I said before, I take notes on EVERY game. What I post on therx for updates is what goes into my notes when I formulate stats and such for the teams. I have a different Excel spreadsheet for each team, which massively clutters my desktop. So to bare bones answer your question, I track some of the following that CAN be found in any box score.... Obviously, I'm not revealing them all because the guy I'm trying to burn is reading closely, but I'll share some of the smaller or obvious portions...

Stops... If you force a team into 4th down and more than a yard (unless it's on the goalline) you get a third of a stop in my book (you get the other 2/3 if you actually make the stop on 4th down). If you get a turnover, it's a full stop. If you force a FG, even if the FG is made, I credit the DEFENSE with a stop (and credit goes to the kicker for making the kick). If you get a safety, it's a stop and a half for the D. On the contrary, if your offense or special teams leaves your defense in a terrible spot, the defense only gets credit for giving up half a score. That's a lot more opinion based on how the game is going... this is an example of where intuition comes in. I also give credit for "timely" stops, which again, is all in the eyes of the beholder. If you pick up a "dumb" penalty to give away a first down on either 3rd and long or 4th down, you get credit for having given up a score and get credit for two scores if they score on the drive.

QB pressure... sacks, knockdowns, balls QBs throw away... all very important to me. If your defensive line gets pressure, you're going to have a good defense.

Dumb penalties... Out of the box, shading or other illegal formations, and offsides on non-linemen are DUMB penalties. These always count against the defense. I give a small credit to lineman who take offsides penalties in non-critical spots if it means getting a better jump at the QB. I also credit lineman who rough the passer. Roughing the passer is a critical part of the game. Kudos goes to the defense who roughs the passer on 1st and 10 on the first drive of the game old school Preds style... also happens to be old school Florida State style.

So that's some of it. My defensive rankings right now are a bit incomplete with Orlando as an N/A until we find out how they're playing without Mason and possibly McEntyre for some time.

But my books into last week before the McEntyre injury and Mason release...

1) NY
2) LV
3) Orl
4) GA
5) Nash

Things have changed a bit since and credit is being given to some teams for having outstanding outings against Ryan Vena... *cough* *cough*.... Yeah, anyway... But in seriousness, I'd never rank NY the #1 defense. Too many holes still. Those are what my numbers show. That's why my capping is based off of my stats and my intuition, with my intuition ruling the day if there's a doubt.

But yeah, I pretty much watch every game if I can. Love this game too much not to. And now it's paying me to watch it. Can't think of anything better I'd like to be doing most of the time.

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Tommy--

Also glad to see that SOMEONE reads all of this stuff I put up here... Most of it is just spitting out facts that are stuck in my head from years of AFL watching and fandome. I'm still determined to not just be a capper for the game, but a promoter for it as well. Just so happens it's easier to make fans of the game when there's money to be made in it.

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Someone else is reading all your posts - and currently grading "A+"

Keep up the good work - it seems as tho quite a few individuals
are counting on you!:party:

I for one am impressed.
 

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Hey Math Prof... As long as we keep banking, everyone keeps reading, right?:103631605
 

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Adding to my AFL futures here... I'll periodically chime in with how well these are doing... But I'll take my shots with these guys now and hedge 'em later. Just trust me on the funky units... this is based off of a "to return 10 units" theory.

Colorado Crush (+866 1.035 units)
San Jose Sabercats (+578 1.475 units)

Here's the thought process... Colorado's all but in. They're up two games on a fading Chicago team, thus will likely be hosting at least one game in the postseason. As for San Jose? A win this week coupled with a LA loss to Tampa puts them a game up on the field in the Wacky West. If they beat LA at home on top of that... look out... Either way, San Jose has enough home games left that they're in the playoffs. There's little doubt in my mind about this. But the Saberkitties can very easily win their division, particularly if they win this week. That being said... go for gold now for small units. We won't lose on Arena futures... promised. We've got the top two contenders in the National Conference... and if they're seeds 1 and 2 in that conference, we could be mucho golden going into the semifinals. Take the winner of the game and just pit 'em against American Conference winner in the Arena Bowl to take gold. A New Orleans win + Orlando loss + Tampa loss might add the Voodoo to the list next week, but in all likelihood, we don't make a move on an American Conference team until some of this dust clears. Giving me over 9 to 1 on the Crush right now is nuts though. They'll be one of the last four standing unless they run into San Jose in the playoffs.

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Okay, I said no more props... BUT... these two are too inviting, including my biggest prop bet of the year....

Clay Rush successful FG (+8.5 yards) vs. longest TD pass (3 units -108): This time I think we're on the opposite side of a trap... There's a few keys in this bet. 1) If there's no SUCCESSFUL FG by Clay Rush, the bets have no action. 2) If Clay Rush makes a 41 yard FG or longer, we win. That being said, Dallas' defense is pretty solid and will surely force Rush into a few longer attempts. Unlike some of the other teams in the AFL, Mike Dailey will let his kicker actually kick on 4th down. Rush makes a FG of at least 40 yards in about half of his games. Granted, in this instance he doesn't have the Colorado air... But I watched him kick one from 55 against Orlando with PLENTY of leg to it. Even in Rush's long FG is 30, we've still got a shot, as it takes a 39 yard TD pass to beat us. If by chance it's a long rush or kick return, it doesn't count. I read between the lines on this one and think it's solid.

Colorado (+45 NET passing yards) vs. Dallas (1.5 units -108): This one we might be on the wrong side of the trap... lol... The key word here is NET. Sacks count against both teams. That being said, Dallas runs a high flying offense vs. Colorado's more methodical offense. I just like Colorado's chances in this one at even odds with a field on our side. Look for JaMaar Toombs and Duke Pettyjohn to carry away some of those yards... Also in consideration here: Dallas' return game is better than that of Colorado, and when on the road, Colorado's kick coverage isn't that great. Clay Rush will make sure Dallas starts on their own 5 enough times, but when Shelley gets going off of the nets (or Pettis for that matter), they're both very dangerous. Don't look for Colorado's defense to screw us with pick sixes in this one... but if they do, it's all the better for Colorado +4.5. More of a protection bet than anything else. I think we have a better chance of winning both of these bets (game and passing yards) than we do losing them both.... but in the better percentage says one or the other. Getting a 45 yard passing start in the AFL with two teams that are very similar and very evenly matched is a solid wager whether it's a trap or not.

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How many teams from each conf make playoffs?

Crush now +806 at Pinny

By the way does any team actually attempt 4pt. field goals?
(I'm obviously new to this game!)
 

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Math Prof...

4 from each conference. 2 of them are the division winners, the other two are wild cards.

To answer your question about a 4 point dropkick... I've seen it tried twice. Both in the same game. One was on accident, one was on purpose. If you dropkick the extra point, it's worth 2 points. In '93 (in the Arena Bowl nonetheless), Arizona tried to do this when they botched a snap and the ball went into the kicker's hands instead of the holder's hands. He missed it terribly. But later in the game, a young whippersnapper named Shredrick Bonner gave it a go on 4th down. He lined up out of the shotgun (a lost art in the AFL I only saw one other QB ever try for some reason) and instead of throwing the ball, he tried a dropkick... failed miserably as well. To my knowledge, no one else has ever tried one, but at times, I wonder if the strategy is more effective to actually try a drop kick than a long FG. Ball's live either way. At least if you drop kick it out of bounds, there's no return on the miss.

--AFLGuru:toast:
 

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