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Paniliakos Aek over at 1.75 for 1.5 units.
Chalkidona Aris under at 1.8 for 1.25 units.
Panionios Olympiakos under at 1.85 for 1.25 units.
Panathinaikos Paok under at 1.8 for 1.25 units.

3 unit parley
Aek pk at 1.2
Olympiakos pk at 1.2
Pao pk at 1.15
(1.66 combined odds. Don't bet three team, low odd parleys, but this one posits a lot of value for me and is well worth the units staked.)

Chalkidona - Aris. Draw at 3.2 for 1.25 units.

Olympiakos - Panionios x/2 at 3.8 for 1.25 units
Panathinaikos - Paok x/1 at 3.8 for 1.25 units
Paniliakos - Aek x/2 at 3.9 for 1.25 units

Olympiakos -1 at 1.85 and Panathinaikos -1 at 2 for 1.5 units.

Olympiakos at 1.55 and Aek at 1.55 for 1.5 units.

bol. jack.
 

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Record Update:

was +9.19 units.

Last weekend: -3.28 units.
Cl and Uefa: -1.3 units.
Games so far: +2.47 units (3-1 so far, with both proodeftiki bets won, as well as iraklis, and one loss with the xanthi over.)

Updated Ytd +7.08 units.

11 bets pending.
 

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In view of the current weather conditions in athens, and the terrible condition of the playing pitch i can resist adding a 1 unit parlay of panathinaikos paok under at 1.9 (got me a better price than previous bet courtesy of fonbet bookmakers.) and panionios olympiakos under at 1.85, for combined odds of 3.52

one correction also, the correct odds for both halftime fulltime bets for panathinaikos and olympiakos, are 4.25 instead of 3.8 (eurobet).

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in view of the fact that i ve dropped tons of units, with any bet containing aek in it(should have checked the weather first and not bet it this early, aek missed one goal after the other, but that's betting, and i am guilty of overstaking here), as well as my 2 unit parley with olympiakos i ll be adding 2.25 units for olympiakos outright at 1.55.
 

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talk about a bad day, no worries though, i ll get them back soon.

-10.3l units for the day.


Ytd -5.93 units.
 

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Panathinaikos -2 at 1.926 (pinnacle) for 2.25 units.

Chalkidona +2 at 1.952 (pinnacle) for 1.25 units.

Olympiakos x/1 at 4.0 for 1.25 units. (expekt)

Olympiakos under at 2.35 for 1.5 units.

parleys

Panathinaikos -1 (three way handicap) @ 1.5
Olympiakos at 1.15
Aek at 1.2 (Sunday)

Risking 3 units for combined odds of 2.07

Panathinaikos over at 1.45
Olympiakos at 1.15
2.25 units for combined odds of 1.67
(0.25 units on Panathinaikos 2-0 exact at 7 and olympiakos at 1.15)

(btw, these might seem like a lot of units with olympiakos as a "banker", but for reasons besides the actual playing part of the game, this game is certainly worth the units staked)
 

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unbefvckinglievable.

here we got championship contenders panathinaikos facing the weakest team in the league, who ve accepted 7 goals by olympiakos, another 7 by aek, and 4 by the next worst team in the league ionikos, and panathinaikos only manage a goal-less draw... To add insult to injury panathinaikos get a more than proper goal marked as off side, in a clear "error" by the linesman...

I know i ll be on top at the end, or so i think, but such occurances and dropping one unit after the other, is not something i appreciate.

To make matters worse, olympiakos x/1 gets messed up by 40th minute first half non penalti, by "guilt ridden" ref who didn't award a penalti a few weeks ago in an olympiakos game, and had the teams supporters on his back for some time...

A whooping 7.75 units loss thus far, but things will turn around for sure.
 

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well, at least the rest of the olympiakos selections, namely the under and the chalchidona handicap where dead on as the game endeded 1-0, with a +3.22 profit, somewhat lessening, but only somewhat, the losses for the day, amounting to -4.53 units, damn panathinaikos and refs.
 

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Kalithea - Ofi draw at 3.2 for 1.5 units.
Under at 1.85 for 1.5 units.

Ionikos - Paniliakos draw at 3.3 for 1.25 units.
Under at 1.8 for 0.75 units.

Egaleo Under at 1.75 for 1.5 units.

Aek 1/1 half full at 1.5 for 2.5 units.
Aek under at 2.3 for 1 unit.

Proodeftiki +1 and +1.5 at 1.926 for 1.75 units.
Under at 1.7 for 1.25 units.

Paok Panionios Under at 1.85 for 1.5 units
Paok - Panionios Draw at 3.7 for 1.25 units.

parley:
aek at 1.2
Paok 1x at 1.12
Egaleo pk at 1.2
Kalithea pk 1.65

for 2.25 units.
 

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update, i am scraping my Paok - Panionios Draw at 3.7 for 1.25 units bet, gladly i was awaiting weather and line up news, so i ve not bet it yet, but due to recent news i ll be on:

Paok - 0.5, 1 at 1.9 for 2 units.

and Paok x/1 at 4.4 for 1.25 units.
 

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good start to the day with that kalithea halftime draw coming in for +1.5 units, let's hope the rest of the day proves to be fortunate too, i am off now for the rest of the day for some r & r, and will probably be back at night, for, hopefully, a profitable update.
 

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PAOK-PANIONIOS

With a win over Panionios, PAOK may find themselves even at the 3rd position if Egaleo screws up against Aris. The home side is currently on the 4th spot with 23 points, one less than Egaleo and their target is a Champions League ticket.
They are hosting Panionios at Salonica and their home record is pretty good (3-2-1), having suffered just one defeat in the first match against Olympiakos. They will seek to achieve a precious victory, after their thrashing 3-0 from Panathinaikos in Athens. Coach Anastasiadis has still some players missing (Egomitis, Markos, Zavadias), but since the beginning of the season he has dealt successfully with much worse conditions.
I believe that PAOK has good chances to achieve victory, since their opponent has some important players missing. Defenders Raguel and Vlcek are suspended and Giannopoulos is injured. Midfielder Kontis and striker Liolidis are doubtful due to injuries too. Panionios (Away record: 1-3-2) has not won any of the last 5 matches (3L, 2D). Moreover they have a bad tradition at Toumpa stadium.

H2H stats:
2003: 3-0
2001: 3-1
2000: 1-1
2000: 2-0
1999: 3-0
1998: 6-1

Odds at 1.70 are worth trying in my opinion!
 

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nice win for paok, who managed to cover as well, but another horrible betting weekend. It all boils down to two bets where chance really turned it's back on me, what was supposed to be an easy win for panathinaikos and a late goal in the kalithea game, very, very profitable weekend became a disastrous one.

I won't even dare calculate the ytd yet.

I have a few selections for the cl today, which i decided to count towards this ytd for a change, and obviously my take and bet on the rangers - panathinaikos game.

bol, jack.
 

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For starters.

Panathinaikos + 1 at 1.8 for 1.75 units.

As much as a low opinion i have for panathinaikos i feel 1 whole goal difference with a rangers team with most of their quality players out is a worthwhile bet.

But my main bet here, and possibly the highest over/under i have bet this season, is the under. Both are defensive minded teams, panathinaikos will play with a highly defensive 5-3-2 formation, rangers are content here with a draw so they are not going to risk much here, but neither will panathinaikos who are aiming for the away win, because they know they can't open up defensively and if they do, they ll pay for it dearly. Everything points to the under, the projected pace of the game, panathinaikos absences in offense, rangers's serious offensive and esp. midfield absences, past results etc. etc.

I ll take my chances at pinnacle's Under 2.5 at 1.85 for 3.5 units.


The rest of my selections are:

Manchester United at 1.6 and Partizan level ball at 1.82, for combined odds of 2.92, for 2.25 units.
Man. U. Under at 1.78 for 2 units.

Partizan - Marseille Under at 1.75 for 1.5 units.

Besiktas - Chelsea Over 2, 2.5 at 1.9 for 1 unit (very strange line imo, i too see a low scoring affair here, but not worth the odds offered, and hence the contrarian approach)

Brugge - Ajax Under at 1.8 for 1.25 units. ajax has been an unders goldmine for the past two years, can't see no reason why this game will not go under too.

(as you can see i ll be betting a lot of unders today, the unders so far in the cl are 48-32 with respect to the overs, and this is very high indeed because with an (underestimated) average of say 1.8 for the unders and 1 unit bets in every under, you'd have a 48*0.8-32, i.e. a good 6.4 unit profit, and i cant see why this should change today, in what is the final and most crucial round of the groups, and nervous, tight, defensive matches are in order)

Real - Porto Under 3 at 1.8 for 1 unit, can't see how this game can be a goal fest really...

Milan pk +0.5 at 1.9 for 1.25 units, i ll be going against the grain here, sure enough milan will be almost half the squad we all know, and the other half will probably have their minds on the intercontinental final with boca, but, milan has some spectacular talent in their reserves and are playing at home with the third from last of the spanish league, i ll gladly take the half goal and the pk here.

Sparta Praha - Lazio, Sparta +1/4 at 1.8 for 1 unit. I am still not conveinced by lazio despite some recent good performances, i don't think they ll be very well rested from the local derby to face a hostile crowd, travelling, and adverse weather conditions in prague, plus they have some absences. I ll take the quarter goal and Sparta, thank you.


Ajax pk at 1.82 for 1 unit.

And a parley for the fun of it for 1 unit.

Partizan pk 1.8
Milan pk 2.1
Ajax pk 1.8
Sparta pk 1.8

i am stone cold in my greek picks, have been doing much better in the cl, so anyone who likes my rationale in any of these games and decides to bet them better be cautious because lately i ve been right most of the time, but unfortunate more than most of the time.



bol.

Jack.

[This message was edited by JackDee on December 09, 2003 at 10:00 AM.]
 

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addding:

the good folks at gamebookers are offering Besiktas +1/4 at a decent price of 1.8. I ll take it for 1 unit.
 

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Jack- I like Manchester United as well. With the next stage being a two game knockout format as opposed to a group stage, finishing at the top of a group is a big advantage and Man Utd has to win to accomplish that. Stuttgart seem to be in one of those periods where there offense isn't in very good form and that's not how you want to go into Old Trafford. Man Utd clearly remembers their loss in Stuttgart and I like them to post a pretty easy win here.

I get the feeling that Besiktas will play a very good game today but it's not a play for me.
 

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besiktas-chelsey is a weird match,if sparta holds Lazio down,both teams will be celebrating together with an X
 

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bob: it's good to know we are on the same side tonight, most recent news from stuttgard mention tension between the coach and star striker kurani due to the laters negotiations with the team for his contract renewal, as well as, a general sense of unease and friction in the locker rooms.

vg: There are some question marks for the chelsea game, but i got the feeling i am on the right side with besiktas and the goals.
 

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