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Hey GoSooners.
What do you think about the KSU-COl -3 game?
I really have a terrible disdain for Ron Prince...I hate what he's doing to the KSU program bringing in JUCO transfers for a quick fix that isn't working. They really need to get rid of his ass after this season. Unfortunatly Colorado has been struggling on offense because of all of the injuries to their offensive line. But KSU is dead last in defense in the Big 12 and are trying to win two in a row on the road. They gave up 544 yards to a terrible Texas A&M team..So despite the problems that the Buffs have been having, i think they can win this game..KSU is a significant drop in class from the last 3 opponents that Colorado has faced FSU, Texas & Kansas. Who all have good defenses..
 

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Public money is not moving the texas line, I can assure you that. The vast majority of public bettors make their bets the day before or gameday, not on Tuesday or Wednesday

Exactly. I really think there's some groups/ syndicates buying the line down only to pound it on Saturday. Again, Texas is 10-0 following the Oklahoma game. That stat cannot be ignored. Mack can get his players refocused as well as any coach in America. Plus, this is a YOUNG, young football team. They don't have any laurals (sp?) to sit on even if they wanted to. GL.
 

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Public money is not moving the texas line, I can assure you that. The vast majority of public bettors make their bets the day before or gameday, not on Tuesday or Wednesday
This is exactly what I was thinking.
 

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Public money is not moving the texas line, I can assure you that. The vast majority of public bettors make their bets the day before or gameday, not on Tuesday or Wednesday


only true to some extent, but these days everyone has a computer and is able to bet on games whenever they want............
 
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Huh? Bringing in JUCO players at Kansas State and you hate that he's doing that to their program? Nobody and I mean nobody brought in more JUCO players than Bill Snyder did while he was at Kansas State. That's how he was able to build up that program. If Prince is bringing in JUCO's then he's doing exactly what his predeccessor did for MANY years.

I really have a terrible disdain for Ron Prince...I hate what he's doing to the KSU program bringing in JUCO transfers for a quick fix that isn't working. They really need to get rid of his ass after this season. Unfortunatly Colorado has been struggling on offense because of all of the injuries to their offensive line. But KSU is dead last in defense in the Big 12 and are trying to win two in a row on the road. They gave up 544 yards to a terrible Texas A&M team..So despite the problems that the Buffs have been having, i think they can win this game..KSU is a significant drop in class from the last 3 opponents that Colorado has faced FSU, Texas & Kansas. Who all have good defenses..
 

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Huh? Bringing in JUCO players at Kansas State and you hate that he's doing that to their program? Nobody and I mean nobody brought in more JUCO players than Bill Snyder did while he was at Kansas State. That's how he was able to build up that program. If Prince is bringing in JUCO's then he's doing exactly what his predeccessor did for MANY years.


Yep, and Ron Prince is running the Kitties right back down to where Snyder found them.....difference is that Snyder could coach, Prince is trying to catch lightning in the bottle-twice. With no real AD at KSU and no one in their right mind to take the job I bet he stays thru his extension. I can't stand the flash-in-the-pan, wanna-be's at KSU, so I for one hope he stays!:103631605
 
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OSU's win was not only the biggest in the Big 12 this season, in my opinion it was the biggest in the nation so far. Even bigger than the Oregon St. win over USC, because this was a win over the number 2 team as 14 point dogs on the Tigers home field in primetime. I really didn't see a letdown coming.


I can't say that I really agree with this statement at all, but it's your biased opinion and your definately entitled to it since it's your thread. When two teams ranked in the top 20 face each other, anything can happen. If it were a #1 team getting beat by an unranked opponent as USC did against OSU then that would be unequivocally without a doubt be a bigger upset. Most everyone knew that MU did not have much a defense and they really have only two outstanding players in Daniels and Maclin. Many posters even stated Okl. St. had a better run game and better defense so it shouldn't have been much of a surprise, especially since the offenses were comparable in stats. I really thought MU would win big after finding out about OU's loss earlier in the day, but in retrospect looking back you see that it only added more pressure playing in front of the home crowd with enourmous expectations of becoming top dog in the nation. I think MU focused way too much attention on breaking the streak in Lincoln the week before and couldn't match the intensity level against OSU the following week. The OSU game was more of an expected win at home because of the beating the handed NU and the idea of playing for a possible #1 ranking. The Tigers simply couldn't handle the pressure and choked. There was no letdown. They were simply unprepared for the spotlight not too mention OSU had good game plan. That's the nature of the beast in college football. Like your Baylor play. Good luck this week.
 

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Huh? Bringing in JUCO players at Kansas State and you hate that he's doing that to their program? Nobody and I mean nobody brought in more JUCO players than Bill Snyder did while he was at Kansas State. That's how he was able to build up that program. If Prince is bringing in JUCO's then he's doing exactly what his predeccessor did for MANY years.
Did you notice his predeccesor isn't there anymore? It's because he stopped winning with these players..The most JC's that Snyder ever recruited in one year is 11..And most years he brought in around 7 or 8..Prince recruited 16 JC's this year alone..That's just stupid..If you can't see this then I can't help you..Let's just see what his record is at the end of the year. Or for the next few years if he makes it that long....So far he isn't doing very well..The Texas A&M win was only his second road win since he's been at KSU. That's not going to cut it.
 
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I can't say that I really agree with this statement at all, but it's your biased opinion and your definately entitled to it since it's your thread. When two teams ranked in the top 20 face each other, anything can happen. If it were a #1 team getting beat by an unranked opponent as USC did against OSU then that would be unequivocally without a doubt be a bigger upset. Most everyone knew that MU did not have much a defense and they really have only two outstanding players in Daniels and Maclin. Many posters even stated Okl. St. had a better run game and better defense so it shouldn't have been much of a surprise, especially since the offenses were comparable in stats. I really thought MU would win big after finding out about OU's loss earlier in the day, but in retrospect looking back you see that it only added more pressure playing in front of the home crowd with enourmous expectations of becoming top dog in the nation. I think MU focused way too much attention on breaking the streak in Lincoln the week before and couldn't match the intensity level against OSU the following week. The OSU game was more of an expected win at home because of the beating the handed NU and the idea of playing for a possible #1 ranking. The Tigers simply couldn't handle the pressure and choked. There was no letdown. They were simply unprepared for the spotlight not too mention OSU had good game plan. That's the nature of the beast in college football. Like your Baylor play. Good luck this week.
If Mizzou gets manhandled by Texas this weekend then your probably right and Mizzou was overrated..However if they beat Texas in Austin then I think it's going to make the OSU win a huge upset. The only way we'll know is after they play the game. In my opinion Mizzou had trouble matching the intensity of the week before..Now the question will be will Texas have trouble matching the intensity of the Red River win? It's a tough call..But my numbers alone have Texas and Missouri as less than a TD apart. So I have to go with the dogs here..
 

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I can't say that I really agree with this statement at all, but it's your biased opinion and your definately entitled to it since it's your thread. When two teams ranked in the top 20 face each other, anything can happen. If it were a #1 team getting beat by an unranked opponent as USC did against OSU then that would be unequivocally without a doubt be a bigger upset. Most everyone knew that MU did not have much a defense and they really have only two outstanding players in Daniels and Maclin. Many posters even stated Okl. St. had a better run game and better defense so it shouldn't have been much of a surprise, especially since the offenses were comparable in stats. I really thought MU would win big after finding out about OU's loss earlier in the day, but in retrospect looking back you see that it only added more pressure playing in front of the home crowd with enourmous expectations of becoming top dog in the nation. I think MU focused way too much attention on breaking the streak in Lincoln the week before and couldn't match the intensity level against OSU the following week. The OSU game was more of an expected win at home because of the beating the handed NU and the idea of playing for a possible #1 ranking. The Tigers simply couldn't handle the pressure and choked. There was no letdown. They were simply unprepared for the spotlight not too mention OSU had good game plan. That's the nature of the beast in college football. Like your Baylor play. Good luck this week.

Chase and Maclin have been great this year but don't forget about Derrick Washington. He's ranked 19th in the power rankings for running backs in the NCAA on cbssports. He is averaging 110 all purpose yards a game and has 13 touchdowns already this year (2nd most in NCAA). He has been a great addition to the offense.

You also forgot to mention the star tight end, Chase Coffman. Hes ranked #3 in TE's with 93 yards a game.
 

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Im with you with Mizzou this week-They have to show up or they will probably be playing before Christmas in one of those Thursday night Bowls somewhere in Shreveport.
Thats how crazy this conference has gotten.Lots of Offense and decent defenses. They are starting to emphasize speed defense and from what I understand there are a few D-coordinators that have come out of the SEC down there (Defense Oriented conference). Chase will probably have a big game because Strafford was able to throw down field on the Horns-The over may be a play as well but Im sticking with the points and the Tigers
GL this week.
 

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Im with you with Mizzou this week-They have to show up or they will probably be playing before Christmas in one of those Thursday night Bowls somewhere in Shreveport.
Thats how crazy this conference has gotten.Lots of Offense and decent defenses. They are starting to emphasize speed defense and from what I understand there are a few D-coordinators that have come out of the SEC down there (Defense Oriented conference). Chase will probably have a big game because Strafford was able to throw down field on the Horns-The over may be a play as well but Im sticking with the points and the Tigers
GL this week.
Strafford? :lol:
 

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I meant Bradford
Isnt Stradford a WR or Kick Returner -something like that-
Good Catch BP and GL
 

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Georgia Tech at Clemson...This is two teams going opposite directions. Clemson got rid of one load when they got rid of Bowden..But I believe this teams problems go well beyond their coach. And now their facing one of the best coaches and teams in the ACC. GT is a hard offense to defend when you haven't seen it..And since this is the first year for coach Johnson's system in this conference, I believe Clemson will also have problems defending it. If you think Clemson had problems moving the ball last week against Wake, just wait until the face one of the best defensive lines in the country. Plus Clemson will be starting RS freshman Corn at QB. And Clemson lost yet another offensive lineman. Plus RB Spiller is out with a hammy injury. I don't know how this Clemson team expects to win this game..My numbers have GT winning by more than a TD. The Jackets are on a 3 game roll and are well on their way to making it to the ACC title game..I think they get it done here..Clemson needs to get to a bye week so they can get settled in with a new coach.Taking Georgia Tech (-2) over Clemson **


San Jose State at New Mexico State...SJST has been playing lights out on defense this year. But they really haven't played an offense with a pulse since their Nebraska game way back in the second week of the season..Now their having to go on the road to face a NMST team who is starting to come on strong with some terrific offensive fireworks. The upset win at Nevada as 19 point dogs was huge last week..And I look for it to carry over this week at home. SJST has the big edge on defense. But NMST has a huge edge on offense..And is getting points at home. The wrong team is favored here.. Look for their momentum to carry over this week..Taking New New Mexico St. (+2) over San Jose **
 

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This week's plays so far:

OU-Kansas (OVER 60.5) **
OU (-19.5) over Kansas *
Baylor (+17) over OSU **
Missouri (+6) over Texas **
Georgia Tech (-2) over Clemson **
New Mexico State (+2) over San Jose St. **
 

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GS what are your thoughts on Nebraska this week? I'm afraid they come out extremely flat after a heartbreaking loss last week. I've learned my lesson after last week that I won't bet against my Huskers anymore or at least not so much money on the line, but I think ISU getting 7 at home might be worth a small play, just curious what your numbers are showing.

Thanks!

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PS - Neb needs a win this week, I have my heart set on a trip to the Insight Bowl in Phoenix!
 

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GS what are your thoughts on Nebraska this week? I'm afraid they come out extremely flat after a heartbreaking loss last week. I've learned my lesson after last week that I won't bet against my Huskers anymore or at least not so much money on the line, but I think ISU getting 7 at home might be worth a small play, just curious what your numbers are showing.

Thanks!

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PS - Neb needs a win this week, I have my heart set on a trip to the Insight Bowl in Phoenix!
I'm kind of favoring Iowa State in this game..But the numbers are very close..I have Nebraska favored by about 12..But you give Iowa State the home field advantage and that number comes down to a little over 7. So it's close..I haven't decided if I'm going to play it or not. But ISU might possibly be worth a shot because of the angle..Teams who play overtime games the week before generally have trouble covering on the road as favorites the next week. And Iowa State always seems to be a completely different team at home. Nebraska needs to start running the ball better before I can ever pick them as favorites on the road.
 

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I'm kind of favoring Iowa State in this game..But the numbers are very close..I have Nebraska favored by about 12..But you give Iowa State the home field advantage and that number comes down to a little over 7. So it's close..I haven't decided if I'm going to play it or not. But ISU might possibly be worth a shot because of the angle..Teams who play overtime games the week before generally have trouble covering on the road as favorites the next week. And Iowa State always seems to be a completely different team at home. Nebraska needs to start running the ball better before I can ever pick them as favorites on the road.


I agree completely, thanks GS!

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Colorado State at Utah...CSU is a young team who appears to getting better as the season moves along. Probably helped by the fact that they've faced two BCS teams on the road and TCU at home. All with good defenses. When they've gone back into conference play or playing non-conference foes they've done well in going 2-1 the last 4 weeks. Utah has had a great year up to now..But everybody keeps saying their offense is going to explode one of these days and they'll surpise people..But this really hasn't happened. I think we're getting a little help on the line because of Utah's 40-7 win over a helpless Wyoming team last week. Wyoming turned the ball over 5 times in that game. In fact Wyoming leads the country in negative turnover margin with a -17. Utah managed only 242 total yards in that game and was actually outgained by Wyoming..Now CSU has statistically a similar defense to Wyoming. But tthey average over 100 yards more on offense than Wyoming. And they have a +3 turnover margin...So this won't be a helpless team coming into Salt Lake City this week. Now their asking a Utah team who only averages just a little over 370 ypg to cover over a 3 score spread. A general rule of thumb is in following the yardage difference between two teams: In this case it's about 150 total yards on offense and defense. If you assume 75 yards per 7 points this is a 14 point difference. So in this case 4 scores is alot to make up. And CSU is on the improve..Utah has played 7 straight weeks and their looking to get out here for their bye week..But teams have tendency to not cover big spreads when their looking to get to their break. Utah gets out of here with a win..CSU gets out with a cover...Taking Colorado St. (+21.5) over Utah **
 

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This week's plays so far:

OU-Kansas (OVER 60.5) **
OU (-19.5) over Kansas *
Baylor (+17) over OSU **
Missouri (+6) over Texas **
Georgia Tech (-2) over Clemson **
New Mexico State (+2) over San Jose St. **
Colorado St. (+21.5) over Utah **
 

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