"Global Warming is rubbish"

[akphidelt]

stupidity is taking 79 out of 3200 respondents of a 2-question survey and feigning that as the consensus of what 36,000 "climatologists" would say

you're a supposed scientist, at least act like one

How many fucking scientist out there do you think study and produce over 50% of their research papers on global warming? Damn you guys are retarded, lol.

 

[BleedingPurple]

Again I will post this question to NFL Trends. Who am I suppose to believe? People on message boards with their own theories who are not scientists such as Joe, Acceb, Russ, Rolltide, yada yada? or An overwhelming percentage of climatologists, and a friend who is a climatologist who has no agenda. When you see politicians, talk show hosts, and message board people use THEIR OWN opinion over expert opinion then common sense makes you wonder who has the agenda? The left using climate experts or the right using politics? I think it's easy to see.

 

[BleedingPurple]

Again I will post this question to NFL Trends. Who am I suppose to believe? People on message boards with their own theories who are not scientists such as Joe, Acceb, Russ, Rolltide, yada yada? or An overwhelming percentage of climatologists, and a friend who is a climatologist who has no agenda. When you see politicians, talk show hosts, and message board people use THEIR OWN opinion over expert opinion then common sense makes you wonder who has the agenda? The left using climate experts or the right using politics? I think it's easy to see.

Also if it were that easy to use the "Ice Age" to debunk it then don't ya think it would be debunked?

 

[akphidelt]

Again I will post this question to NFL Trends. Who am I suppose to believe? People on message boards with their own theories who are not scientists such as Joe, Acceb, Russ, Rolltide, yada yada? or An overwhelming percentage of climatologists, and a friend who is a climatologist who has no agenda. When you see politicians, talk show hosts, and message board people use THEIR OWN opinion over expert opinion then common sense makes you wonder who has the agenda? The left using climate experts or the right using politics? I think it's easy to see.

You are trying to speak logically to retards. It will honestly never work.

 

[The Guesser]

Again I will post this question to NFL Trends. Who am I suppose to believe? People on message boards with their own theories who are not scientists such as Joe, Acceb, Russ, Rolltide, yada yada? or An overwhelming percentage of climatologists, and a friend who is a climatologist who has no agenda. When you see politicians, talk show hosts, and message board people use THEIR OWN opinion over expert opinion then common sense makes you wonder who has the agenda? The left using climate experts or the right using politics? I think it's easy to see.

FANTASTIC Post BP.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Show me a so-called "scientist" who's receiving a govt grant and I'll show you a hardline Gorebull Warming activist looking to cash in.

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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Scientific_opinion_on_climate_change

Scientists arguing that global warming is primarily caused by natural processes

Graph showing the ability with which aglobal climate model is able to reconstruct the historical temperature record, and the degree to which those temperature changes can be decomposed into various forcing factors. It shows the effects of five forcing factors:greenhouse gases, man-made sulfateemissions, solar variability, ozonechanges, and volcanic emissions.[SUP][27][/SUP]​

Scientists in this section have made comments that the observed warming is more likely attributable to natural causes than to human activities. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles.

• Khabibullo Abdusamatov, mathematician and astronomer at Pulkovo Observatory of the Russian Academy of Sciences[SUP][28][/SUP]
• Sallie Baliunas, astronomer, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[SUP][29][/SUP][SUP][30][/SUP]
• Tim Ball, professor emeritus of geography at the University of Winnipeg[SUP][31][/SUP]
• Robert M. Carter, former head of the school of earth sciences at James Cook University[SUP][32][/SUP]
• Ian Clark, hydrogeologist, professor, Department of Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[SUP][33][/SUP]
• Chris de Freitas, associate professor, School of Geography, Geology and Environmental Science, University of Auckland[SUP][34][/SUP]
• David Douglass, solid-state physicist, professor, Department of Physics and Astronomy, University of Rochester[SUP][35][/SUP]
• Don Easterbrook, emeritus professor of geology, Western Washington University[SUP][36][/SUP]
• William M. Gray, professor emeritus and head of the Tropical Meteorology Project, Department of Atmospheric Science, Colorado State University[SUP][37][/SUP]
• William Happer, physicist specializing in optics and spectroscopy, Princeton University[SUP][38][/SUP]
• Ole Humlum, professor of geology at the University of Oslo[SUP][39][/SUP]
• Wibjörn Karlén, professor emeritus of geography and geology at the University of Stockholm.[SUP][40][/SUP]
• William Kininmonth, meteorologist, former Australian delegate to World Meteorological Organization Commission for Climatology[SUP][41][/SUP]
• David Legates, associate professor of geography and director of the Center for Climatic Research, University of Delaware[SUP][42][/SUP]
• Tad Murty, oceanographer; adjunct professor, Departments of Civil Engineering and Earth Sciences, University of Ottawa[SUP][43][/SUP]
• Tim Patterson, paleoclimatologist and professor of geology at Carleton University in Canada.[SUP][44][/SUP][SUP][45][/SUP]
• Ian Plimer, professor emeritus of Mining Geology, the University of Adelaide.[SUP][46][/SUP]
• Arthur B. Robinson, biochemist and former faculty member at the University of California, San Diego[SUP][47][/SUP]
• Murry Salby, former chair of climate at Macquarie University[SUP][48][/SUP]
• Nicola Scafetta, research scientist in the physics department at Duke University[SUP][49][/SUP][SUP][50][/SUP]
• Tom Segalstad, head of the Geology Museum at the University of Oslo[SUP][51][/SUP]
• Fred Singer, professor emeritus of environmental sciences at the University of Virginia[SUP][52][/SUP][SUP][53][/SUP][SUP][54][/SUP]
• Willie Soon, astrophysicist, Harvard-Smithsonian Center for Astrophysics[SUP][55][/SUP]
• Roy Spencer, principal research scientist, University of Alabama in Huntsville[SUP][56][/SUP]
• Henrik Svensmark, Danish National Space Center[SUP][57][/SUP]
• George H. Taylor, former director of the Oregon Climate Service at Oregon State University[SUP][58][/SUP]
• Jan Veizer, environmental geochemist, professor emeritus from University of Ottawa[SUP][59][/SUP]

Scientists arguing that the cause of global warming is unknown

Scientists in this section have made comments that no principal cause can be ascribed to the observed rising temperatures, whether man-made or natural. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles.

• Syun-Ichi Akasofu, retired professor of geophysics and founding director of the International Arctic Research Center of the University of Alaska Fairbanks.[SUP][60][/SUP]
• Claude Allègre, politician; geochemist, emeritus professor at Institute of Geophysics (Paris).[SUP][61][/SUP]
• Robert Balling, a professor of geography at Arizona State University.[SUP][62][/SUP]
• John Christy, professor of atmospheric science and director of the Earth System Science Center at the University of Alabama in Huntsville, contributor to several IPCCreports.[SUP][63][/SUP][SUP][64][/SUP]
• Petr Chylek, space and remote sensing sciences researcher, Los Alamos National Laboratory.[SUP][65][/SUP]
• David Deming, geology professor at the University of Oklahoma.[SUP][66][/SUP]
• Ivar Giaever, professor emeritus of physics at the Rensselaer Polytechnic Institute.[SUP][67][/SUP]
• Vincent R. Gray, New Zealander physical chemist with expertise in coal ashes[SUP][68][/SUP]
• Keith Idso, botanist, former adjunct professor of biology at Maricopa County Community College District and the vice president of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change[SUP][69][/SUP]
• Antonino Zichichi, emeritus professor of nuclear physics at the University of Bologna and president of the World Federation of Scientists.[SUP][70][/SUP]

Scientists arguing that global warming will have few negative consequences

Scientists in this section have made comments that projected rising temperatures will be of little impact or a net positive for human society and/or the Earth's environment. Their views on climate change are usually described in more detail in their biographical articles.

• Craig D. Idso, faculty researcher, Office of Climatology, Arizona State University and founder of the Center for the Study of Carbon Dioxide and Global Change [SUP][71][/SUP]
• Sherwood Idso, former research physicist, USDA Water Conservation Laboratory, and adjunct professor, Arizona State University[SUP][72][/SUP]
• Patrick Michaels, senior fellow at the Cato Institute and retired research professor of environmental science at the University of Virginia[SUP][73][/SUP]

 

[SheriffJoe]

Computer models predict that the temperature rise will continue at that accelerated pace if emissions of heat-trapping gases are not reduced, and also predict that warming will be especially pronounced in the wintertime.”
Star News, William K. Stevens, New York Times, 11 Mar 2000

“Spring is arriving earlier each year as a result of climate change, the first ‘conclusive proof’ that global warming is altering the timing of the seasons, scientists announced yesterday.”
Guardian, 26 Aug 2006.

Shindell’s model predicts that if greenhouse gases continue to increase, winter in the Northern Hemisphere will continue to warm. ‘In our model, we’re seeing a very large signal of global warming and it’s not a naturally occurring thing. It’s most likely linked to greenhouse gases,’ he said.
NASA, GISS, 2 June 1999

“The hottest year since 1659 spells global doom”
Telegraph December 14, 2006
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1536852/The-hottest-year-since-1659-spells-global-doom.html

“Climate change will have the effect of pushing more and more winter sports higher and higher up mountains,…”
Rolf Burki and his colleagues at the University of Zurich
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/03/research.sciencenews

January 1970 Life Magazine “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support …the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half…”

“At the present rate of nitrogen build-up, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

June 30, 1989, Associated Press: U.N. OFFICIAL PREDICTS DISASTER, SAYS GREENHOUSE EFFECT COULD WIPE SOME NATIONS OFF MAP–entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ‘eco-refugees,’ threatening political chaos,” said Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program. He added that governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect.

Edward Goldsmith, 1991, (5000 Days to Save the Planet): “By 2000, British and American oil will have diminished to a trickle….Ozone depletion and global warming threaten food shortages, but the wealthy North will enjoy a temporary reprieve by buying up the produce of the South. Unrest among the hungry and the ensuing political instability, will be contained by the North’s greater military might. A bleak future indeed, but an inevitable one unless we change the way we live…At present rates of exploitation there may be no rainforest left in 10 years. If measures are not taken immediately, the greenhouse effect may be unstoppable in 12 to 15 years.”

April 22, 1990 ABC, The Miracle Planet: “I think we’re in trouble. When you realize how little time we have left–we are now given not 10 years to save the rainforests, but in many cases five years. Madagascar will largely be gone in five years unless something happens. And nothing is happening.”

“The planet could face an ‘ecological and agricultural catastrophe’ by the next decade if global warming trends continue.”

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Imagine if these 0-4275 climate clowns were cut off from these wasteful govt grants and were actually paid by...performance.

Imagine if they were sports handicappers posting their "predictions" right here on the rx...we'd all be rich fading these idiots and their god complexes.

Hey BleedingNavy, do you pay for your sports picks too? I mean, "experts" are never EVER wrong!

LMFAO!

:hahahahah :laughingb

 

[BleedingPurple]

Computer models predict that the temperature rise will continue at that accelerated pace if emissions of heat-trapping gases are not reduced, and also predict that warming will be especially pronounced in the wintertime.”
Star News, William K. Stevens, New York Times, 11 Mar 2000

“Spring is arriving earlier each year as a result of climate change, the first ‘conclusive proof’ that global warming is altering the timing of the seasons, scientists announced yesterday.”
Guardian, 26 Aug 2006.

Shindell’s model predicts that if greenhouse gases continue to increase, winter in the Northern Hemisphere will continue to warm. ‘In our model, we’re seeing a very large signal of global warming and it’s not a naturally occurring thing. It’s most likely linked to greenhouse gases,’ he said.
NASA, GISS, 2 June 1999

“The hottest year since 1659 spells global doom”
Telegraph December 14, 2006
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/uknews/1536852/The-hottest-year-since-1659-spells-global-doom.html

“Climate change will have the effect of pushing more and more winter sports higher and higher up mountains,…”
Rolf Burki and his colleagues at the University of Zurich
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2003/dec/03/research.sciencenews

January 1970 Life Magazine “Scientists have solid experimental and theoretical evidence to support …the following predictions: In a decade, urban dwellers will have to wear gas masks to survive air pollution…by 1985 air pollution will have reduced the amount of sunlight reaching earth by one half…”

“At the present rate of nitrogen build-up, it’s only a matter of time before light will be filtered out of the atmosphere and none of our land will be usable.”

June 30, 1989, Associated Press: U.N. OFFICIAL PREDICTS DISASTER, SAYS GREENHOUSE EFFECT COULD WIPE SOME NATIONS OFF MAP–entire nations could be wiped off the face of the earth by rising sea levels if global warming is not reversed by the year 2000. Coastal flooding and crop failures would create an exodus of ‘eco-refugees,’ threatening political chaos,” said Brown, director of the New York office of the U.N. Environment Program. He added that governments have a 10-year window of opportunity to solve the greenhouse effect.

Edward Goldsmith, 1991, (5000 Days to Save the Planet): “By 2000, British and American oil will have diminished to a trickle….Ozone depletion and global warming threaten food shortages, but the wealthy North will enjoy a temporary reprieve by buying up the produce of the South. Unrest among the hungry and the ensuing political instability, will be contained by the North’s greater military might. A bleak future indeed, but an inevitable one unless we change the way we live…At present rates of exploitation there may be no rainforest left in 10 years. If measures are not taken immediately, the greenhouse effect may be unstoppable in 12 to 15 years.”

April 22, 1990 ABC, The Miracle Planet: “I think we’re in trouble. When you realize how little time we have left–we are now given not 10 years to save the rainforests, but in many cases five years. Madagascar will largely be gone in five years unless something happens. And nothing is happening.”

“The planet could face an ‘ecological and agricultural catastrophe’ by the next decade if global warming trends continue.”

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Imagine if these 0-4275 climate clowns were cut off from these wasteful govt grants and were actually paid by...performance.

Imagine if they were sports handicappers posting their "predictions" right here on the rx...we'd all be rich fading these idiots and their god complexes.

Hey BleedingNavy, do you pay for your sports picks too? I mean, "experts" are never EVER wrong!

LMFAO!

:hahahahah :laughingb

Of coarse experts are wrong, you comparing sports handicapping "experts" to climate scientists shows what kind of dipshit you are... really. You are the type of guy who is always going to find an excuse to support your crazy views. If one doctor gave me a diagnosis I will have a second opinion maybe three, you will keep getting more opinions until you find the one doctor who would debunk those opinions and go with that. I am sure 9 out of 10 psychiatrists would diagnosis you as a Paranoid Psychotic, nothing you can do about it, there are meds that can help you but then again you do have that 10% who wouldn't agree

 

[BleedingPurple]

Show me a so-called "scientist" who's receiving a govt grant and I'll show you a hardline Gorebull Warming activist looking to cash in.

My friend is a Genius, IQ of 160, a bit eccentric but was studying climate in Calgary well before anyone heard of Al Gore. I think I will put my trust in him and overwhelming amount of climatologists over your opinion and the few scientists you can find who debunk it. Just don't label me as supporting it because of a political belief like you and your belief

 

[SheriffJoe]

Of coarse experts are wrong, you comparing sports handicapping "experts" to climate scientists shows what kind of dipshit you are... really. You are the type of guy who is always going to find an excuse to support your crazy views. If one doctor give me a diagnosis I will have a second opinion maybe two, you will keep getting more opinions until you find the one doctor who would debunk those opinion and go with that. I am sure 9 out of 10 psychiatrists would diagnosis you as a Paranoid Psychotic, nothing you can do about it, there are meds that can help you but then again you do have that 10% who wouldn't agree

Just like fratfraud's "economists" tell us "the stimulus was the epitome of perfection" even though every metric tells us otherwise. :Carcajada:

Another gullible radical left wing nut masquerading as a 'moderate' - SURPRISE!

If Gorebull Warming were real, we would be discussing the empirical data and idiots like you and fratfraud wouldn't be hiding behind this political bullshit known as "scientific consensus"

Real science is based on the scientific method, not some radical activist gathering signatures on a petition to push his political agenda.

Remember the hacked Climategate emails?

PS - The earth was 'warmer' during the Roman Empire. Must have been all the methane gas from having too many horses and donkeys!

:thumbsup2:

 

[SheriffJoe]

My friend is a Genius, IQ of 160, a bit eccentric but was studying climate in Calgary well before anyone heard of Al Gore. I think I will put my trust in him and overwhelming amount of climatologists over your opinion and the few scientists you can find who debunk it. Just don't label me as supporting it because of a political belief like you and your belief

How does he make his living?

I don't care if he has an IQ of 190...follow the money.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Kilimanjaro glaciers just won’t die – ‘nowhere near extinction’

Posted on April 7, 2014 by Anthony Watts

From the we told you so, time and time again department comes this story about Gore’s buddy, Dr. Lonnie Thompson and his Kilimanjaro glacier that just won’t die like they want it to, even though they don’t believe their own hype.

From ETN Global Travel Industry News:

Mount Kilimanjaro Glaciers nowhere near extinction

The legendary glaciers, one of key tourists ecstasy, on Tanzania’s majestic Kilimanjaro mountain, will not melt anytime soon after all, as it was earlier predicted.
America’s renowned climatologist, professor Lonnie Thompson in 2002 projected that the snow on the summit of Africa’s highest mountain would completely disappear between 2015 and 2020, thanks to global warming.

But 12 years down the lane now, local ecologists who have been monitoring the trend say the ice, in fact, remains steady and it is nowhere near extinction.
“There are ongoing several studies, but preliminary findings show that the ice is nowhere near melting,” said Mount Kilimanjaro National Park (KINAPA)’s Ecologist, Imani Kikoti.

Mr Kikoti hints that sustainable rainfalls supply on Mount Kilimanjaro in recent years could be a factor behind the snow resilient.

“Much as we agree that the snow has declined over centuries, but we are comfortable that its total melt will not happen in the near future,” he stressed.
Sometimes in 2006, KINAPA installed three state-of-the-art automatic weather stations on mountain key areas of Shira 2, Mweka and Kibo huts to collect accurate data on weather trends.

Though scientifically, it takes up to 30 years to conclude on whether rainfalls are on increase or otherwise, but Mr Kikoti says the data are encouraging.
more here: http://www.eturbonews.com/44420/mount-kilimanjaro-glaciers-nowhere-near-extinction

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As we’ve said before, it’s about sublimation and lack of water vapor in the atmosphere, not temperature.

The issue is really quite simple.

Much of the sublimation may be due to the forests around the base of Kilimanjarobeing cleared for firewood and agricultural use by the locals. Just imagine if they had electricity- they’d no longer need firewood and the trees would return, along with theevapotranspiration that keeps the up-slope winds onto the mountain laden with water vapor.

For example, this is a photo (at left) of Dr. Thompson standing next to an ice spire on Kilimanjaro. Notice any meltwater pools nearby?
You won’t, because they aren’t there. Read this quote from this entry to understand why:

The ice cap on Kilimanjaro consists of ice on the 5,700-meter-high flat summit, some with vertical edges, and several slope glaciers, mostly at altitudes where temperatures stay well below freezing and the major source of energy is solar radiation. Considerable infrared radiation is emitted from the glacier surface into the surrounding air, and the glaciers lose the most mass through sublimation-the direct conversion of ice to water vapor. Observers have seen only a trickle of meltwater.

​

Dr. Thompson seems not to want to understand the process of sublimation on Kilimanjaro

Of course, it is easy to see why Dr. Thompson wants to keep claiming that the glaciers on Kilimanjaro will disappear, its his business:



Behold, the climate fraud hockey stick graph!

 

[akphidelt]

Consensus: 97% of climate scientists agree

http://climate.nasa.gov/scientific-consensus


Consensus #2: 97% of retard conservatives disagree

Who should I believe?? Clown Canadian Joe and his band of rejects like festeringZit and rolltide? Or real scientists? This is a tough one, give me some time to make my decision.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Whenever the data isn't in their favor, the climate frauds resort to the embarrassing "consensus" BS.

Global Warming Alarmists Caught Doctoring '97-Percent Consensus' Claims

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/

Maybe if fratfraud increases the font size it will come true. :Carcajada:

 

[akphidelt]

Well gosh golly, there is an op-ed piece out there claiming the study was doctored. Color me surprised, I've never used the Internet before... please show me more of these bloggers articles, thanks.

 

[SheriffJoe]

Oops!

"97% CONSENSUS!!!"

:Carcajada:

 

[scottcarter]

Whenever the data isn't in their favor, the climate frauds resort to the embarrassing "consensus" BS.

Global Warming Alarmists Caught Doctoring '97-Percent Consensus' Claims

http://www.forbes.com/sites/jamesta...caught-doctoring-97-percent-consensus-claims/

Maybe if fratfraud increases the font size it will come true. :Carcajada:

it amazes me that people just blindly accept what government and others tell them. It a sick kind of unconditional love that can only be compared to the unconditional love you get from your dog or how one acts when in a cult.

There are no facts or logic you can use to persuade these people to be open minded. Their minds are make up because it doesn't suit their political affiliation's point of view. It's their agenda. They are taught to think this way. They are part of a cult. Simple as that. There is no other way that I can think of putting it.

 

[akphidelt]

it amazes me that people just blindly accept what government and others tell them. It a sick kind of unconditional love that can only be compared to the unconditional love you get from your dog or how one acts when in a cult.

There are no facts or logic you can use to persuade these people to be open minded. Their minds are make up because it doesn't suit their political affiliation's point of view. It's their agenda. They are taught to think this way. They are part of a cult. Simple as that. There is no other way that I can think of putting it.

It amazes me people blindly accept any blog they find on the Internet that supports their position regardless of any facts or validity to it.

 

[SheriffJoe]

it amazes me that people just blindly accept what government and others tell them. It a sick kind of unconditional love that can only be compared to the unconditional love you get from your dog or how one acts when in a cult.

There are no facts or logic you can use to persuade these people to be open minded. Their minds are make up because it doesn't suit their political affiliation's point of view. It's their agenda. They are taught to think this way. They are part of a cult. Simple as that. There is no other way that I can think of putting it.

Yep.

There's no money in graciously accepting reality, so the Gorebull Warming cult must soldier on!

 

[akphidelt]

This is not an insult at all, just an observation. What I've come to know about conservatives, is they are incredibly dumb people. Watching Sheriff Joe and scottcarter talking to each other about this topic, is absolutely mind boggling. And the scary thing is I honestly think they believe the shit they say. There's always been the anti-science thinkers out there, so it should come as no surprise.