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So the Ice Age isn't proof that climate change happens on its own?

Or the heat and famines for the past thousands of years (before factories and fossil fuels)

Lets look at the planet Mars... its shown that it was once like earth and had lakes and oceans... what caused their climate change to make it a hot and desolate wasteland?
 

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too funny

if you click on this bullshit URL the footnote for "97 PERCENT" AGAIN references the Doran/Zimmerman survey which has been debunked a hundred times ... but, yeah, we're dumb :)

P. T. Doran & M. K. Zimmerman, "Examining the Scientific Consensus on Climate Change," Eos Transactions American Geophysical Union Vol. 90 Issue 3 (2009), 22; DOI: 10.1029/2009EO030002.

what is sad about today's scientists...and apparently fratty believes himself to be one...is that they don't collect the data objectively THEN make an argument, instead they make a hypothesis THEN pick and choose which data is available to validate it. Of course it's all driven by the desire to be published which is driven by the taxpayer-provided federal grants used to fund the "study".

quite a little niche these, ahemm, scientists have created for themselves.

i'll give fratty this...75 of 79 out of 3200 two-question surveys did respond that climate change is not only real but likely created by humans. pretty compelling stuff...

How many climatologists do you think are out there that submit over 50% of their peer reviewed research papers about climate change? Lmao. You guys are really dumb. This study has never been debunked, it's just a lot of retards trying to change the truth. There is no doubt in any normal persons mind that educated people who study climate change agree that man-made climate change is real. The rest of the naysayers are political junkies and retards, like yourself.
 

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So the Ice Age isn't proof that climate change happens on its own?

Or the heat and famines for the past thousands of years (before factories and fossil fuels)

Lets look at the planet Mars... its shown that it was once like earth and had lakes and oceans... what caused their climate change to make it a hot and desolate wasteland?

If you believe that man has the ability to drastically change the weather

No offense, but this is one of the most retarded statements I've ever heard.
 

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No offense, but this is one of the most retarded statements I've ever heard.

What makes it retarded?

The fact that man didn't cause any of that climate change to fit the agenda?

Enlighten me instead of insulting....
 

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What makes it retarded?

The fact that man didn't cause any of that climate change to fit the agenda?

Enlighten me instead of insulting....

The fact that none of that has to do with the argument of global warming, lol. There is not a single climatologist out there that does not understand weather has natural patterns and can drastically change overtime on its own. You guys are just very dumb.
 

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The fact that none of that has to do with the argument of global warming, lol. There is not a single climatologist out there that does not understand weather has natural patterns and can drastically change overtime on its own. You guys are just very dumb.

So what your saying is that the earths climate changes over time on its own? We should give this a name. Lets call it "Climate Change"
 

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So what your saying is that the earths climate changes over time on its own? We should give this a name. Lets call it "Climate Change"

Yes, earths climate changes over time on its own. Does that mean that humans can't change it on their own either? Talk about a logical fallacy, lol.
 

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So man can control the weather?

So what can man do to make it cooler?
 

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So man can control the weather?

So what can man do to make it cooler?

They probably can figure out how to control weather in 100s or 1000s of years. But as of right now, scientists believe that the massive amounts of greenhouse gasses being pumped in to the air by humans are affecting the atmosphere. And almost every scientist who understands this believes it. There are some that conservatives cling to, but it's pretty much universally accepted other than crazy people that think the fact there was an Ice Age means Global Warming isn't man made.
 

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So man can control the weather?

So what can man do to make it cooler?

well in 1974 these acclaimed scientists also advocated melting the ice caps because they believed another Ice Age was underway. They're clearly terrific predictors of what the planet is doing next....:)

as they say...those who cannot learn from the past are doomed to repeat it...just this time it has the right political and financial backing

and, yes, they used all the same rhetoric of doom and impending disaster:

“ominous signs that the earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically"
"upcoming drastic decline in food production”
"when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing"
"the weather climatologists are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age"
"Whatever the cause of the cooling trend, its effects could be extremely serious, if not catastrophic"
"The most drastic potential change considered in the new report is an abrupt end to the present interglacial period of relative warmth that has governed the planet’s climate for the past 10,000 years"


and it even included a letter to the president, just like the "global warming" purveyors
Dear Mr. President:

Aware of your deep concern with the future of the world, we feel obliged to inform you on the results of the scientific conference held here recently. The conference dealt with the past and future changes of climate and was attended by 42 top American and European investigators. We enclose the summary report published in Science and further publications are forthcoming in Quaternary Research.
The main conclusion of the meeting was that a global deterioration of climate, by order of magnitude larger than any hitherto experience by civilized mankind, is a very real possibility and indeed may be due very soon.
The cooling has natural cause and falls within the rank of processes which produced the last ice age. This is a surprising result based largely on recent studies of deep sea sediments.
Existing data still do not allow forecast of the precise timing of the predicted development, nor the assessment of the man’s interference with the natural trends. It could not be excluded however that the cooling now under way in the Northern Hemisphere is the start of the expected shift. The present rate of the cooling seems fast enough to bring glacial temperatures in about a century, if continuing at the present pace.
The practical consequences which might be brought by such developments to existing social institution are among others:
(1) Substantially lowered food production due to the shorter growing seasons and changed rain distribution in the main grain producing belts of the world, with Eastern Europe and Central Asia to be first affected.
(2) Increased frequency and amplitude of extreme weather anomalies such as those bringing floods, snowstorms, killing frosts, etc.
With the efficient help of the world leaders, the research …
With best regards,
George J. Kukla (Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory)
R. K. Matthews (Chairman, Dept of Geological Sciences, Brown U)
 

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well in 1974 these acclaimed scientists also advocated melting the ice caps because they believed another Ice Age was underway. They're clearly terrific predictors of what the planet is doing next....:)

as they say...those who cannot learn from the past are doomed to repeat it...just this time it has the right political and financial backing

and, yes, they used all the same rhetoric of doom and impending disaster:

“ominous signs that the earth’s weather patterns have begun to change dramatically"
"upcoming drastic decline in food production”
"when meteorologists take an average of temperatures around the globe they find that the atmosphere has been growing gradually cooler for the past three decades. The trend shows no indication of reversing"
"the weather climatologists are studying may be the harbinger of another ice age"
"Whatever the cause of the cooling trend, its effects could be extremely serious, if not catastrophic"
"The most drastic potential change considered in the new report is an abrupt end to the present interglacial period of relative warmth that has governed the planet’s climate for the past 10,000 years"


and it even included a letter to the president, just like the "global warming" purveyors
Dear Mr. President:

Aware of your deep concern with the future of the world, we feel obliged to inform you on the results of the scientific conference held here recently. The conference dealt with the past and future changes of climate and was attended by 42 top American and European investigators. We enclose the summary report published in Science and further publications are forthcoming in Quaternary Research.
The main conclusion of the meeting was that a global deterioration of climate, by order of magnitude larger than any hitherto experience by civilized mankind, is a very real possibility and indeed may be due very soon.
The cooling has natural cause and falls within the rank of processes which produced the last ice age. This is a surprising result based largely on recent studies of deep sea sediments.
Existing data still do not allow forecast of the precise timing of the predicted development, nor the assessment of the man’s interference with the natural trends. It could not be excluded however that the cooling now under way in the Northern Hemisphere is the start of the expected shift. The present rate of the cooling seems fast enough to bring glacial temperatures in about a century, if continuing at the present pace.
The practical consequences which might be brought by such developments to existing social institution are among others:
(1) Substantially lowered food production due to the shorter growing seasons and changed rain distribution in the main grain producing belts of the world, with Eastern Europe and Central Asia to be first affected.
(2) Increased frequency and amplitude of extreme weather anomalies such as those bringing floods, snowstorms, killing frosts, etc.
With the efficient help of the world leaders, the research …
With best regards,
George J. Kukla (Lamont-Doherty Geological Observatory)
R. K. Matthews (Chairman, Dept of Geological Sciences, Brown U)

Yes, great logic. People in the 1500s also thought the Earth was the center of the Universe. You're telling me they haven't gotten any smarter since 1974? You guys are retarded.
 

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yep compare the 1500's to 1974 and keep using 79 respondents to a 2-question survey for your evidence of nearly unanimous scientific consensus. nicely done

not sure when they stopped teaching the scientific method in school...probably right around the advent of reality TV and "scientists" like yourself speaking like an 11-year old girl that had too much candy cane
 

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yep compare the 1500's to 1974 and keep using 79 respondents to a 2-question survey for your evidence of nearly unanimous scientific consensus. nicely done

not sure when they stopped teaching the scientific method in school...probably right around the advent of reality TV and "scientists" like yourself speaking like an 11-year old girl that had too much candy cane

There was a lot of technological advancements between 1974 and 2014 that make it much easier for them to analyze and understand this data.

You are just really dumb, and your criticism of global warming based on what they thought in 1974 is just a real indicator of how dumb you really are.

You guys are grown ups, at least act like it. Damn. I have little nephews that have a 9 o clock bedtime that are more mature than you guys.
 

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The Marxist idiots scamming taxpayers who fratfraud worships have never been right about a single thing EVER. Whether it's 1974 or 2014, their 'predictions' are...well, predictable.

The big list of failed climate predictions (107 'predictions' down the toilet)


To be sure, Global warming IS real AND definitely man made.

The cause? Government grants.

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The idiots who make their living scamming taxpayers who fratfraud worships have never been right about a single thing EVER. Whether it's 1974 or 2014, their 'predictions' are, well....predictable.

The big list of failed climate predictions (107 'predictions' down the toilet)

http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/04/02/the-big-list-of-failed-climate-predictions/


To be sure, Global warming IS real AND definitely man made.

The cause? Government grants.

Tin foil hat theories! Gotta love people like you, lol. Nonstop free entertainment!
 

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Anyone who wants a great laugh should the click the link I provided.

2000: “Good bye winter. Never again snow?”

1989: “New York will probably be like Florida 15 years from now.”

1990: “The planet could face an ‘ecological and agricultural catastrophe’ by the next decade if global warming trends continue.”

2001, CNN: “In ten year’s time, most of the low-lying atolls surrounding Tuvalu’s nine islands in the South Pacific Ocean will be submerged under water as global warming rises sea levels.”

Yes, these are the climate fraud morons fratfraud worships.

Loser!@#0
 

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You are just really dumb, and your criticism of global warming based on what they thought in 1974 is just a real indicator of how dumb you really are.

stupidity is taking 79 out of 3200 respondents of a 2-question survey and feigning that as the consensus of what 36,000 "climatologists" would say

you're a supposed scientist, at least act like one ;)
 

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But as of right now, scientists believe that the massive amounts of greenhouse gasses being pumped in to the air by humans are affecting the atmosphere. And almost every scientist who understands this believes it..

these same climatologists you're sucking cock about right now changed their stories in the mid-80's because it was politically and financially expedient to do so. I give them all the credit in the world that THIS theory stuck since the one from the mid-70's failed miserably. Climatology is about as far from true science as the crystal ball. Anytime you fit EVERY event, statistic, and piece of data to fit your premise (no matter how opposite it might be) you've lost the science tag long ago.

melting polar ice caps? global warming
extensive icing of polar region? global warming
warm winter? global warming
cold winter? global warming
lots of hurricanes? global warming
zero hurricanes? global warming
earth's temperature statistically decreasing? climate change :)
 

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here's for fratty to get his "science" on...

A complete list of things caused by global warming:(Each list item is linked to a news story. However, this list has been compiled over a period of time, so some links may no longer work.)

Agricultural land increase
, Africa devastated, African aid threatened, air pressure changes, Alaska reshaped, allergies increase, Alps melting, Amazon a desert,American dream end, amphibians breeding earlier (or not), ancient forests dramatically changed, Antarctic grass flourishes, anxiety, algal blooms, Arctic bogs melt, Asthma, atmospheric defiance, atmospheric circulation modified,avalanches reduced, avalanches increased, bananas destroyed, bananas grow, bet for $10,000, better beer, big melt faster, billion dollar research projects, billions of deaths, bird distributions change, birds return early, blackbirds stop singing,blizzards, blue mussels return, boredom, Britain Siberian, British gardens change,bubonic plague, budget increases, building season extension, bushfires, business opportunities, business risks, butterflies move north, cardiac arrest, caterpillar biomass shift, challenges and opportunities, Cholera, civil unrest, cloud increase,cloud stripping, cod go south, cold climate creatures survive, cold spells (Australia), computer models, conferences, coral bleaching, coral reefs dying, coral reefs grow, coral reefs shrink , cold spells, cost of trillions, crumbling roads, buildings and sewage systems, cyclones (Australia), damages equivalent to $200 billion, Dengue hemorrhagic fever, dermatitis, desert advance, desert life threatened, desert retreat, destruction of the environment, diarrhoea,disappearance of coastal cities, diseases move north, Dolomites collapse, drought,drowning people, ducks and geese decline, dust bowl in the corn belt, early spring,earlier pollen season, Earth biodiversity crisis, Earth dying, Earth even hotter,Earth light dimming, Earth lopsided, Earth melting, Earth morbid fever, Earth on fast track, Earth past point of no return, Earth slowing down, Earth spinning out of control, Earth to explode, earth upside down, Earth wobbling, earthquakes, El Niño intensification, erosion, emerging infections, encephalitis, Europe simultaneously baking and freezing, evolution accelerating, expansion of university climate groups, extinctions (human, civilisation, logic, Inuit, smallest butterfly, cod, ladybirds, bats, pandas, pikas, polar bears, pigmy possums, gorillas,koalas, walrus, whales, frogs, toads, turtles, orang-utan, elephants, tigers, plants,salmon, trout, wild flowers, woodlice, penguins, a million species, half of all animal and plant species, less, not polar bears), experts muzzled, extreme changes to California, famine, farmers go under, figurehead sacked, fish catches drop, fish catches rise, fish stocks decline, five million illnesses, floods, Florida economic decline, food poisoning, food prices rise, food security threat (SA), footpath erosion, forest decline, forest expansion, frosts, fungi invasion, Garden of Eden wilts, genetic diversity decline, gene pools slashed, glacial retreat, glacial growth,glacier wrapped, global cooling, global dimming, glowing clouds, Gore omnipresence, grandstanding, grasslands wetter, Great Barrier Reef 95% dead,Great Lakes drop, greening of the North, Gulf Stream failure, habitat loss,Hantavirus pulmonary syndrome, harvest increase, harvest shrinkage, hay fever epidemic, hazardous waste sites breached,heat waves, hibernation ends too soon,hibernation ends too late, high court debates, human fertility reduced, human health improvement, human health risk, hurricanes, hydropower problems,hyperthermia deaths, ice sheet growth, ice sheet shrinkage, inclement weather,infrastructure failure (Canada), Inuit displacement, Inuit poisoned, Inuit suing,industry threatened, infectious diseases, insurance premium rises, invasion of midges, island disappears, islands sinking, itchier poison ivy, jellyfish explosion,Kew Gardens taxed, krill decline, lake and stream productivity decline, landslides,landslides of ice at 140 mph, lawsuits increase, lawsuit successful, lawyers’ income increased (surprise, surprise!), lightning related insurance claims, little response in the atmosphere, Lyme disease, Malaria, malnutrition, Maple syrup shortage,marine diseases, marine food chain decimated, marine dead zone, Meaching (end of the world), megacryometeors, Melanoma, methane emissions from plants,methane burps, melting permafrost, Middle Kingdom convulses, migration,migration difficult (birds), microbes to decompose soil carbon more rapidly,more bad air days, more research needed, mountain (Everest) shrinking, mountains break up, mountains taller, mudslides, next ice age, Nile delta damaged, no effect in India, nuclear plants bloom, oaks move north, ocean acidification, outdoor hockey threatened, oyster diseases, ozone loss, ozone repair slowed, ozone rise,Pacific dead zone, personal carbon rationing, pest outbreaks, pests increase, phenology shifts, plankton blooms, plankton destabilised, plankton loss,plant viruses, plants march north, polar bears aggressive, polar bears cannibalistic, polar bears drowning, polar bears starve, polar tours scrapped,psychosocial disturbances, railroad tracks deformed, rainfall increase, rainfall reduction, refugees, reindeer larger, release of ancient frozen viruses, resorts disappear, rice yields crash, rift on Capitol Hill, rioting and nuclear war, rivers raised, rivers dry up, rockfalls, rocky peaks crack apart, roof of the world a desert,Ross river disease, salinity reduction, salinity increase, Salmonella, salmon stronger, sea level rise, sea level rise faster, sex change, sharks booming, shrinking ponds, ski resorts threatened, slow death, smog, snowfall increase, snowfall reduction, societal collapse, songbirds change eating habits, sour grapes, spiders invade Scotland, squid population explosion, squirrels reproduce earlier,spectacular orchids, stormwater drains stressed, taxes, tectonic plate movement,terrorism, ticks move northward (Sweden), tides rise, tourism increase, trade winds weakened, tree beetle attacks, tree foliage increase (UK), tree growth slowed, trees could return to Antarctic, trees less colourful, trees more colourful,tropics expansion, tropopause raised, tsunamis, turtles lay earlier, UK Katrina,Venice flooded, volcanic eruptions, walrus pups orphaned, war, wars over water,water bills double, water supply unreliability, water scarcity (20% of increase), water stress, weather out of its mind, weather patterns awry, weeds,Western aid cancelled out, West Nile fever, whales move north, wheat yields crushed in Australia, white Christmas dream ends, wildfires, wind shift, wind reduced, wine - harm to Australian industry, wine industry damage (California), wine industry disaster (US), wine - more English, wine -German boon, wine - no more French , winters in Britain colder, wolves eat more moose, wolves eat less,workers laid off, World bankruptcy, World in crisis, Yellow fever

 

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these same climatologists you're sucking cock about right now changed their stories in the mid-80's because it was politically and financially expedient to do so. I give them all the credit in the world that THIS theory stuck since the one from the mid-70's failed miserably. Climatology is about as far from true science as the crystal ball. Anytime you fit EVERY event, statistic, and piece of data to fit your premise (no matter how opposite it might be) you've lost the science tag long ago.

melting polar ice caps? global warming
extensive icing of polar region? global warming
warm winter? global warming
cold winter? global warming
lots of hurricanes? global warming
zero hurricanes? global warming
earth's temperature statistically decreasing? climate change :)

This is your science?? Lmao!! No wonder conservatives are stupid.
 

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