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Syracuse @ Georgetown
Line: +6.5

How do you go out and lay this chalk on Georgetown? You got to be out of your fucking mind however, I see even action on Georgetown right now and when I ask around off the forum I am getting a few Georgetown backers. I can’t believe it.

Let me start with this. Georgetown is VERY overrated. They started the season unranked (where they belong) and now somehow are supposed to be some sort of powerhouse ranked in the top 15. Rankings mean nothing to me but it just shows how overrated they are. I mean look at these ridiculous lines they have got handed to them; 1 point dogs @ ND where ND has won over 45 in a row and giving 3.5 to Pitt. I cashed them both. Georgetown is a very good fade. Lines are based on public perception and people are dead wrong about this team. What have they done to earn respect? They open the season unranked and with expectations of finishing middle of the pack in the Big East. I think that is correct. Georgetown is the 6<sup>th</sup> best team in the Big East. But now apparently their resume is so good they are being picked to finish in like the top 3 or 4. Syracuse, Uconn, Pitt, ND, and Louisville are all miles better then Georgetown and Marquette they would contend with. They lost to Tennessee, Pitt, and ND. They beat a down Memphis team that would finish 8<sup>th</sup> in the Big East and a Uconn on the road. Okay, Uconn good win but this is what makes them a contender? Absolutely ridiculous.

Syracuse has won 8 of the last 10 against Georgetown including 5 covers as dogs and 4 outright wins as dogs. Cuse is one miracle buzzer beater away from being undefeated yet gets zero credit outside of this forum. Hell, they get no credit inside this forum either. I don’t see why though. They are not overachieving. They have the best PG in the nation with Flynn, Paul Harris who can go off on a given night, and Onuaku who keeps improving and I really like his inside game. This is all without Eric Devendorf who somehow managed to escape that whole mess with 2 missed games. One of them was actually a blow out @ Memphis. Since returning he has shot 53% from the filed and 60% from beyond the arc.

Also someone please tell me who is going to guard Jonny Flynn? Last year he went for 24 and 17 points vs. Georgetown and that’s was with Roy Hibbert in the paint. Now there is no one there other then Monroe who is no Roy Hibbert on defense. Yes, the guy can score but Flynn will be able to blow by anyone guarding him and get to the bucket.

Georgetown also has a well balanced offense with guys like Monroe, Summers, and Sapp but they just don’t have that guy that will always get you the bucket you need. Summers is the closest thing to that but he doesn’t have the impact on a game that a guy like Flynn or Devendorf do when they are playing well.

All in all this line is to good to pass up and I am adding 1 unit to Syracuse +6.5 making it 4 units total.

Syracuse +6.5 (4 Units)

i think i am the only one who gives them credit and i get blasted for it. fine with me people just need to evaluate talent.

GL today
 

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SYRACUSE 67.0 25.8-64.8 39.8% fg% 5.8-25.8 22.3% 3pt% 9.8-14.8 66.1% ft% 37.0 14.3 15.5 20.0 6.8 13.3 to 4.3 blk


this is syracuse's road stat line...kind of makes me nervous after further investigation
 

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GD..........

thank you for the plays..g/l with all the plays today..

indy
 

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Gimmedatt I go to PSU and no one here cares about the hoops games. We never sell out any games and tonight as usual wont even be close. When Ohio State came here with Greg Oden and Conley, We had about 1/5 of the BJC filled.
 

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Also, I will be playing Duke/Georgia Tech Under if I can get a number over 134, which I think will happen.

Will write it up if I can get the number tomorrow.


Bookmaker has it 146. Thanks for your picks and efforts! :toast:
 

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Michigan State @ Penn State
Line: +4.5

This is a tricky game at first glance. However, when taking a closer look I found that Michigan State -4.5 is actually a good play in my mind. The thing in this game that makes me want to play the chalk on the road is that it is Michigan State. Tom Izzo has proved over the years that he can win anywhere and Michigan State has the style to take crowds out of it in a hurry. All the kids are back at Penn State so that should be a very nice crowd however look at what Michigan State has accomplished on the road already this year. They already won by 11 @ Northwestern, 12 @ Minnesota, and 4 in Texas. Not to mention since the UNC game they have been on an absolute roll. They have responded in the right way to that loss motivated to prove they are not nearly as bad as they showed and I’m sure Izzo played a large part in getting these kids fired up after the loss. Since the loss they have won every game by double digits except the game in Texas and they have beaten some respectable opponents. Teams like Kansas, Ohio State, Northwestern, Minnesota, Texas, and Bradley have all fallen during this 9 game winning streak.

A lot of the winning steak has to do with Kalin Lucas. He has played very well shooting 12/18 from 3 point land in his last 5 games, averaged 20.8 ppg in his last 4 games, and won the Big Ten Player of the Week award last week. It also didn’t hurt to get Raymar Morgan back. However, Penn State will counter that with Talor Battle, the Big Tens leading scorer. The Spartans have won 25 of 29 all time vs. Penn State however Penn State is in an up year. The Nittany Lions are 8-0 when Battle scores over 20 points and 5-4 when he doesn’t. In 2 meetings last year combined Battle totaled 23 points against Michigan State.

Aside from Battle, they don’t have much that Michigan State can’t handle. They don’t win games when they get out rebounded and that is one thing that I think they will struggle with big time tomorrow night. Only one team out-rebounded Michigan State during this 9 game win streak and that was Texas. Other then Texas, no other team has come within 8 boards of the Spartans. If Penn State loses the battle of the boards tomorrow they will get smoked with out a Meeks-like performance from Battle.

I think Michigan State will control the glass and contain Battle and Michigan State rolls on the road.

Michigan State -4.5 (2 Units)
Tex vs Mich State was on a neutral court. I see many people saying that Mich state won in Austin
 

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Tex vs Mich State was on a neutral court. I see many people saying that Mich state won in Austin

The game was played in Houston. Granted, not on the campus of the Longhorns, but hardly neutral. Kind of like when Michigan State played North Carolina at Ford Field or when Kansas plays games at the Sprint Center in Kansas City. Technically a neutral site, but most likely the crowd is not going to be neutral.
 

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do not be greedy and take michigan state first half if its -2.5 or -3.5. It may seem too good to be true but just DONT TAKE IT! penn state is one of those 1 half great the other half terrible....

this may be my second post but i hit every psu basketball game, nothing will ever change with this program....also another note....psu WILL begin to struggle scoring as the season goes on..you cant just rely on two guards running up and down throwing up retarded shots...i cant wait to take the unders when psu plays teams like iowa....
we are ALL so lucky psu covered and beat purdue at home....hahaha....just too much respect for psu with the line opening at +4.5...hahaha....Andruw Jones hahaha....Jeff Brooke mr. kentucky...haha..just watch these guys and youll laugh

This post has me confused. I am not playing the 1st half. I am not sure if you are saying they will win or lose. Clear this up for me please.
 

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SYRACUSE 67.0 25.8-64.8 39.8% fg% 5.8-25.8 22.3% 3pt% 9.8-14.8 66.1% ft% 37.0 14.3 15.5 20.0 6.8 13.3 to 4.3 blk


this is syracuse's road stat line...kind of makes me nervous after further investigation

Well they have only had 3 road games right? How can thier FG % be that low if they have 3 games of 48, 48, and 50+??
 

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Tex vs Mich State was on a neutral court. I see many people saying that Mich state won in Austin

I know I said @ Minnesota, @ Northwestern and in Texas. Games was played in Houston, Texas. Essentially a home game for the Horns.
 

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Duke @ Georgia Tech
Total: 146

I was ecstatic to see this number come out this high. The number 146 is so high that Dukes defense can do its part to cover it all by its self. I don’t think Ga Tech breaks 65 tops. Dukes defense has been very good all year. Since their loss to Michigan they have allowed just 56 points per game in 6 games. That includes the two conference games which they allowed Virginia Tech to score 44 and Florida State to score 58. Combine this smothering defense with a lackluster Georgia Tech offense and we have a good recipe. G-Tech is shooting just 42% in their last 5 games, a number that probably won’t improve against the Blue Devils.

Also something very strange here, Duke and Georgia Tech have played under the total 9 of their last 10 games and their last 8 in a row. They have played under 155, 154, 144, 155, 138.5, 133.5, 163.5, 154, and 151.5. Also Duke has played under in their last 4 in a row and 6 of their last 8 that I found a total for. Georgia Tech has played under in 7 of their last 10 games.

Maryland held Ga Tech to 61 points and if Duke can do the same I don’t see how the over hits. Duke hasn’t broken 80 against any good teams other then Xavier. I think on the road Duke will be playing extra hard on the defensive end and will be able to control the tempo. I don’t think they want to play up tempo on the road and if they get a lead late will certainly attempt to run some clock out.

I really do like this play a lot.

Duke/GT Under 146 (3 Units)

May add 1 more later.
 

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only thing that worries me about that total is the tempo if the game will be fast paced throughout. hewitt has gt full court pressing the whole game, and duke also likes to play at a fast pace. both defenses are good, but with the fast pace there may be too many easy buckets where the defenses don't have to work for this one to stay under. was actually thinking of playing the over.

GL with the rest of the plays. hopefully wake doesn't screw us
 

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Syracuse @ Georgetown
Line: +6.5

How do you go out and lay this chalk on Georgetown? You got to be out of your fucking mind however, I see even action on Georgetown right now and when I ask around off the forum I am getting a few Georgetown backers. I can’t believe it.

Let me start with this. Georgetown is VERY overrated. They started the season unranked (where they belong) and now somehow are supposed to be some sort of powerhouse ranked in the top 15. Rankings mean nothing to me but it just shows how overrated they are. I mean look at these ridiculous lines they have got handed to them; 1 point dogs @ ND where ND has won over 45 in a row and giving 3.5 to Pitt. I cashed them both. Georgetown is a very good fade. Lines are based on public perception and people are dead wrong about this team. What have they done to earn respect? They open the season unranked and with expectations of finishing middle of the pack in the Big East. I think that is correct. Georgetown is the 6<sup>th</sup> best team in the Big East. But now apparently their resume is so good they are being picked to finish in like the top 3 or 4. Syracuse, Uconn, Pitt, ND, and Louisville are all miles better then Georgetown and Marquette they would contend with. They lost to Tennessee, Pitt, and ND. They beat a down Memphis team that would finish 8<sup>th</sup> in the Big East and a Uconn on the road. Okay, Uconn good win but this is what makes them a contender? Absolutely ridiculous.

Syracuse has won 8 of the last 10 against Georgetown including 5 covers as dogs and 4 outright wins as dogs. Cuse is one miracle buzzer beater away from being undefeated yet gets zero credit outside of this forum. Hell, they get no credit inside this forum either. I don’t see why though. They are not overachieving. They have the best PG in the nation with Flynn, Paul Harris who can go off on a given night, and Onuaku who keeps improving and I really like his inside game. This is all without Eric Devendorf who somehow managed to escape that whole mess with 2 missed games. One of them was actually a blow out @ Memphis. Since returning he has shot 53% from the filed and 60% from beyond the arc.

Also someone please tell me who is going to guard Jonny Flynn? Last year he went for 24 and 17 points vs. Georgetown and that’s was with Roy Hibbert in the paint. Now there is no one there other then Monroe who is no Roy Hibbert on defense. Yes, the guy can score but Flynn will be able to blow by anyone guarding him and get to the bucket.

Georgetown also has a well balanced offense with guys like Monroe, Summers, and Sapp but they just don’t have that guy that will always get you the bucket you need. Summers is the closest thing to that but he doesn’t have the impact on a game that a guy like Flynn or Devendorf do when they are playing well.

All in all this line is to good to pass up and I am adding 1 unit to Syracuse +6.5 making it 4 units total.

Syracuse +6.5 (4 Units)

Well since I'm backing G'Town and since I don't think I'm out of my mind to be laying just 6 points at home with the Hoyas I guess it boils down to our differing view of the Hoyas - you think they're bad and I think they're every bit as good as last years version, probably better. I don't know what Georgetown is/was/will be ranked but I do know that going into the Pitt and ND games they were highly efficient on both offense and defense. Pitt absolutely manhandled them on the glass..a very good rebounding team and Blair has about as many bounds as the entire Hoya team.they can play a little soft at times...losing by 16 or so at home is hardly excusable but let's face it Pitt is probably a top 5 team in the country so it's not the absolute worst loss. Then they lost at Notre Dame, always an excusable loss and they suffered a horrific shooting day from downtown (won the battle of the boards - and the game basically went to the wire). You say that the Memphis game wasn't a huge win but isn't Memphis one of Cuse's biggest wins of the season - a game that was an absolutely perfect matchup for them since Memphis can't shoot? Honestly, Cuse hasn't done a whole lot, they beat Kansas in a semi-home game, beat Memphis and beat a young Florida team early in the season. I like Cuse and they are extremely talented...they may cover they matchup alright with G'Town, Flynn is as good as it gets and Arinze could do some damage...but Cuse has played (to their credit beaten) literally the 4 worst teams in the Big East - now they face a big road test...bottom line is I can see having Cuse as a side and I thought the line would be closer to 4, but I don't think it's nuts to be laying the points here, Cuse still has to answer some questions.
 

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Well since I'm backing G'Town and since I don't think I'm out of my mind to be laying just 6 points at home with the Hoyas I guess it boils down to our differing view of the Hoyas - you think they're bad and I think they're every bit as good as last years version, probably better. I don't know what Georgetown is/was/will be ranked but I do know that going into the Pitt and ND games they were highly efficient on both offense and defense. Pitt absolutely manhandled them on the glass..a very good rebounding team and Blair has about as many bounds as the entire Hoya team.they can play a little soft at times...losing by 16 or so at home is hardly excusable but let's face it Pitt is probably a top 5 team in the country so it's not the absolute worst loss. Then they lost at Notre Dame, always an excusable loss and they suffered a horrific shooting day from downtown (won the battle of the boards - and the game basically went to the wire). You say that the Memphis game wasn't a huge win but isn't Memphis one of Cuse's biggest wins of the season - a game that was an absolutely perfect matchup for them since Memphis can't shoot? Honestly, Cuse hasn't done a whole lot, they beat Kansas in a semi-home game, beat Memphis and beat a young Florida team early in the season. I like Cuse and they are extremely talented...they may cover they matchup alright with G'Town, Flynn is as good as it gets and Arinze could do some damage...but Cuse has played (to their credit beaten) literally the 4 worst teams in the Big East - now they face a big road test...bottom line is I can see having Cuse as a side and I thought the line would be closer to 4, but I don't think it's nuts to be laying the points here, Cuse still has to answer some questions.

All valid points. Like you said, it comes down to our differing views on Georgetown. Like you said, the ranking means nothing. I just use the ranking to gauge the public perception. You think Georgetown is solid and I don't think they are middle of the pack Big East.

Should be a very good game. Gl to you.
 

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