Gators will win 2009-2010 CFB National Championship

[Conan]

CCB,

I completely agree with your focusing on QB's in your post. There is no more an important position on the field than the QB. Once in a while, a WR or RB can take charge of a game and turn things around, but a QB always has that potential in every game on most every down.

Lately the trend has been towards running QB's. I know it's a key to Oregon's spread offense and well, we've seen what Tebow does on occasion when he takes off. He saves drives. But on other teams such as Oregon who runs a spread option offense, their QB Jeremiah Masoli (who I think may be a dark horse Heisman candidate next year) literally changed the face of that team when he boned up on Chip Kelly's system and got into it. You saw how they dismantled OK St's defense when everyone thought it would be the other way around. I told everyone that this guy may be an unknown but he was extremely dangerous.

Now USC runs a pro-set type offense. I see Corp as filling the QB role in that way more than as an option QB. But, he's the guy who can take a 3rd and long with everyone covered and scramble for an 18 yard gain. Just what everyone who has to face USC needs., another facet of their offense that's a pure pain in the ass to do anything about. The only player they lose of any consequence is WR Patrick Turner. Everyone else comes back.

You asked about who might trip USC up. I think Cal might. I don't think Oregon will beat them because they have too many issues on defense to deal with next season and, well, with USC's offense as good as I expect it to be, Oregon is a dead duck, even if the game is played in Eugene.

On the other hand, Cal brings back practicaly the whole team, including Jahvid Best. USC will be playing 8 new players on defense. This will hurt them, of course, but the quality of NFL ready bodies on that team are nowhere else to be found in those numbers. But they will have some weaknesses that Cal's O might expose, especially if Kevin Riley is on that day (@Cal.) Cal losing their QB Nate Longshore is a true blessing for them. Now Tedford can focus on Riley and I think Riley is already better than Longshore ever was. Riley has plenty of experience starting too. The only place where Cal may have questions is at the LB position because they lose 3 pretty good ones. But they did rotate their 2's last year so it won't be too traumatic of a change.

As far as USC's game @Ohio St. goes, one important thing that I see is that their new QB won't have to start his first game there. He will have a nice scrimmage the week before against San Jose St. to get grooved in. The Spartans will probably show a pretty good defense until they get worn down, so that will be good experiwnce for USC's new QB (probably Aaron Corp.)

Keep in mind that the biggest improvement nearly every team has happens between the first and second week of a new season. I have a hunch that will be a good thing for USC and Aaron Corp. @Ohio St. I also get the feeliing that USC's new defense will be able to gut it out just based on their athletic abilities.

 

[Flsunman]

USC's OOC schedule has been far far tougher than the gaytor's who don't EVER travel out of the state, much less the south. They've played everyone who wants them. Who and where has Florida played nationally? Nobody. They could schedule a home/home series with USC anytime they want, but they won't. Meanwhile, USC travels almost everywhere. (So does the rest of their conference.) So it's not a matter of luck that they haven't played, it's by choice. Maybe if they were willing to swap home games, that would shut up your USC adversaries or prove you wrong. Scary thought unless you are a USC fan. USC is used to it. Florida is not. That's why they will never rank in my book. They refuse to play outside of their own state. They refuse to lay it on the line year after year the way USC does.

How can you claim superiority if you are unwilling to take on all comers, and even avoid them? You could end this speculation any time you wanted to. You are stuck with the consequences of your own decisions.

OH and by the way, USC has Aaron Corp and another #1 All American prep QB Matt Barkley joining the team this year. Corp nearly beat out Sanchez for the starting job last fall. Losing Sanchez isn't a fatal blow. I'm surprised to see all this Sanchez love anyway. A few weeks ago he wasn't even rated in your book. All that talk about USC's offense was just a bunch more SEC BS. They put up more points vs PSU in the 1st half of the Rose Bowl than anyone has in an entire game for at least 2 years. You know almost nothing about them.

Your hatred for the SEC and UF becomes more and more clear by every post. Stop saying SC will play anybody, they NEVER play the cream of the crop from the SEC.

Here's a thought dumbass... the SEC DOESN'T HAVE TO TRAVEL... how many times do I have to beat this in your braindead head? The SEC is UNREAL in BCS games and haven't lost a championship game since the BCS inception.

The SEC has won more outright titles in the last 3 years than the PAc-shit has in 38 years!!! Case closed, you lose again...

 

[Conan]

Also one more point about Carroll's defense next season. They lose about 1/2 of it. (On offense they return 9 starters.) But perhaps an even bigger loss than 6 players is their DC Nick Holt. He left with Sarkisian to Washington. But then again, PC has a reputation for surrounding himself with an A-numero-uno staff. More often than not his AC's get head coaching offers elsewhere often within 2 or 3 years. (Sarkisian and Kiffin most recently) I expect PC to find the right guy for the job because that's what he does. Aside from that, he was a DC for years before he became a HC.

 

[Conan]

Your hatred for the SEC and UF becomes more and more clear by every post. Stop saying SC will play anybody, they NEVER play the cream of the crop from the SEC.

Here's a thought dumbass... the SEC DOESN'T HAVE TO TRAVEL... how many times do I have to beat this in your braindead head? The SEC is UNREAL in BCS games and haven't lost a championship game since the BCS inception.

The SEC has won more outright titles in the last 3 years than the PAc-shit has in 38 years!!! Case closed, you lose again...

Quit lying to everyone keyboard cowboy. USC beat Auburn twice when they were on top of the SEC just a few years ago. Nobody in the SEC wants anything to do with USC. If that's not true, then where are the takers? USC is ready to take on anyone and the proof is that that's what they've been doing for almost 100 years. The last time they went to play an SEC team, they put up more points vs Arkansas than any of your "great" teams have ever done. Also, if the SEC is so dominant and better, then why have they lost 11 times to the Pac-10 since 2002 and won just 7 games. You just lied again.

When you grow some pubes I'll listen. Nobody needs a fanatical moron in this place who doesn't know what he's talking about.

 

[ElTaino]

Your hatred for the SEC and UF becomes more and more clear by every post. Stop saying SC will play anybody, they NEVER play the cream of the crop from the SEC.

sept 2, 2002 auburn 17 at usc 24
aug 30, 2003 usc 23 at auburn 0
jan 4, 2005 (2004 nat'l championship) usc 55 oklahoma 19 (auburn wanted no part of that usc team. auburn barely beat a 10-2 va tech team 16-13 in the bowl game)

what was that again?

usc came out on top against the "cream of the crop" :bunnies:

how soon we forget!

 

[russ1945]

Wow, there is nobody throwing boomarangs in this thread. I think I will just observe this battle from my bunker. It is kind of like fighting an imaginary battle with imaginary weapons. It is not even as sophisticated as paint ball. I hope none of the players on all of these teams are reading this thread. Can you get bulletin board material from your fans? Good luck guys, may the best man (men) win.

 

[gmoney72]

It's funny that when FSU was ranked in the top 5 every year no one talked shit about UF's OOC schedule.

BTW, the last time UF went out of Florida to play an OOC game was Syracuse in 1991. They lost.

UF plays next year:

Florida State
Kentucky
Georgia
South Carolina
Tennessee
Arkansas
Vanderbilt
LSU

Among others. No shame in that schedule. Period.

After Auburn got the FUCK in 2003 I don't think we'll see the SEC get screwed again (see LSU's 2 loss season in 2007 AND accompanying National Championship).

I like USC and Pete Carroll. I think he is the best coach in the country (and Urban Meyer is on his way to....or has.....surpassed him). Regardless, I would love to see UF/USC next year in California (which will suck having to play there for the NC....but that's how it works w/ the BCS).

The last 2 years, LSU had a home game (New Orleans) and so did UF (Miami) for the NC game. It looks like USC could be there as well. I think USC can run their schedule even w/ mediocre QB play (not saying the QB will be mediocre....but IF the QB play is mediocre).....

College football is fun to watch.....I can't wait to see next sesaon.

BTW, Florida returns ALL eleven defensive starters...in fact, they return the ENTIRE 22 player 2-deep Defensive roster (the only senior in the 2 deep preseason blew an ACL before the season began).....

Wow. I love how you end it with Florida returning ALL 11 ddefensive starters. . . in fact, tey return the ENTIRE 22 player 2-deep Defensive roster! We may have a top 5 defense if not even better next year. Our offense will be rolling. Ship the Title now. The BCS should of just presented next years Crystal Football with this years at the same time. Would of saved them some gas $$ in these tough times of the economy!!!! :nohead:

 

[ElTaino]

It is kind of like fighting an imaginary battle with imaginary weapons. It is not even as sophisticated as paint ball. .

you are very correct. the problem is that any high school drop out can join this forum. therefore you get weak, unintelligent, barely thought out arguments from some dude who thinks that because he had 4.4 speed 10 years ago and made 8 tackles once in a pop warner game he knows everything about football. nevermind the fact that these half-wits have never been outside of their home state, never lived outside of their mothers house, and never had a job outside of mcdonalds (other than pressing license plates) i dropped logic twice on this thread alone and what do you know, zero response. i will admit that games arnt played on paper, but championship participants are placed there by paper. until we have a college postseason playoff we will argue and debate until our faces turn purple. facts still remain facts, and utah put it on a team that florida struggled with for 3 quarters. utah is also undefeated. therefore now utah has a gripe as well as usc. we can go on and on for days, but until these guys from florida can wake up and admit the championship this year was a little questionable i dont see them opening up their minds to having any other conversation of substance regarding next season either. all these arguments with absurd predictions and tainted facts are typical of fanatics overreaching when they dont get their way

 

[socalgator]

Guitarjosh-I did not intentionally leave out those games-I just didn't pay as much attention to USC's schedule, I apologize.
My point is year in and year out who plays the tougher conference schedule? Certainly not that weak Pac 10 that USC plays every year. Try playing UGA, LSU, UT, SC, Ole Miss and Bama, Auburn(those 3 at least every other year), every year and throw in FSU. No SEC game is easy, especially on the road.
Yes, USC does play out of conference a few games that are tough, but the only ones NOT scheduled (minus the Rose Bowl which is planned) were Arkansas, Ohio St. (during the season), and VT that one game (on a neutral field).
USC WOULD HAVE AT LEAST TWO CONFERENCE LOSSES EVERY YEAR IN THE SEC! THEY DO NOT PLAY THE SAME CALIBER OF TEAM YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR CONFERENCE!

 

[socalgator]

guitarjosh-BTW, IN 05' ND was ranked #17 final AP poll, not #9 as you stated. I also forgot to include Auburn scheduled OOC.
Thank you lsunman for hammering in your point-


SEC: 3 STRAIGHT NATIONAL CHAMPIONSHIPS-AS MANY AS THE PAC 10 IN 38 YEARS!!!

 

[guitarjosh]

Guitarjosh-I did not intentionally leave out those games-I just didn't pay as much attention to USC's schedule, I apologize.
My point is year in and year out who plays the tougher conference schedule? Certainly not that weak Pac 10 that USC plays every year. Try playing UGA, LSU, UT, SC, Ole Miss and Bama, Auburn(those 3 at least every other year), every year and throw in FSU. No SEC game is easy, especially on the road.
Yes, USC does play out of conference a few games that are tough, but the only ones NOT scheduled (minus the Rose Bowl which is planned) were Arkansas, Ohio St. (during the season), and VT that one game (on a neutral field).
USC WOULD HAVE AT LEAST TWO CONFERENCE LOSSES EVERY YEAR IN THE SEC! THEY DO NOT PLAY THE SAME CALIBER OF TEAM YEAR IN AND YEAR OUT BECAUSE OF THEIR CONFERENCE!

Getting SEC fans to see a correlation between OOC schedules and final records and rankings must be one of the toughest things in the universe.

Look, I'm not saying SEC teams aren't good. I AM saying that they are overrated because their OOC schedules usually give them 4 easy wins spread throughout the year. Factor in the conference door mats, and you're at 8-4. The reality is that of those 7 teams you cited not 1 played an OOC team ranked in the final polls. They go into conference play with a 4-0 record, and a ranking. Again, if over a third of the SEC's OOC schedules were filled with teams that finished ranked in the polls, and they played 9 conference games, their final records and rankings would be much lower.

 

[socalgator]

Guitarjosh-I know the point are trying to make. But most years SEC teams play more ranked teams in CONFERENCE than the Pac 10 does in their CONFERENCE.Why does SEC teams have to play extra ranked teams OOC when they already play their share of ranked teams? FYI Auburn played @WV, Bama vs. Clemson, Ole Miss @ WF, and UGA dominated ASU in Tempe this past season, and Tenn@Cal, Bama-FSU a few years ago. UGA plays OSU in Stillwater next season and they play @Oregon in a few seasons? Yeah, the SEC won't play on the road OOC...
The only consistent team in the Pac 10 lately is Oregon, with Cal, ASU and OSU ranked every 2 or 3 years. So USC's road should be easier, but they lose to unranked teams like Stanford, UCLA (remember, kept you out of the championship) and OSU (unranked at the time).
Florida has to get by their conference AND a conference championship game, which is usually vs. a top 7 team. That extra game for SEC teams is an extra game that USC never has to play.
I have to listen to my friend, people in the office and sports bars (living in LA) moan about why USC is not in the BCS championship. Well the BCS rewards victories vs. ranked teams and schedule strength-one loss will kill USC's season every time if they are going against the SEC (LSU 2 losses in 07').
We need a playoff system in college football, until then, if USC blows a big game they have to live with it. Sounds like sour grapes for USC fans. Another thing that kills me is that a lot of USC fans don't know much about the other conferences teams like the SEC, Big 12, Mountain West, etc. Try watching an SEC game, and quit being so myopic.
Good luck with your team, I hope that USC somehow makes it out of their tough schedule, and losing starters to make it to Pasadena. Games @Columbus and Eugene will be tough. OU and Texas looks tough next season, I see Florida playing either one of those teams.

 

[guitarjosh]

Guitarjosh-I know the point are trying to make. But most years SEC teams play more ranked teams in CONFERENCE than the Pac 10 does in their CONFERENCE.Why does SEC teams have to play extra ranked teams OOC when they already play their share of ranked teams? FYI Auburn played @WV, Bama vs. Clemson, Ole Miss @ WF, and UGA dominated ASU in Tempe this past season, and Tenn@Cal, Bama-FSU a few years ago. UGA plays OSU in Stillwater next season and they play @Oregon in a few seasons? Yeah, the SEC won't play on the road OOC...
The only consistent team in the Pac 10 lately is Oregon, with Cal, ASU and OSU ranked every 2 or 3 years. So USC's road should be easier, but they lose to unranked teams like Stanford, UCLA (remember, kept you out of the championship) and OSU (unranked at the time).
Florida has to get by their conference AND a conference championship game, which is usually vs. a top 7 team. That extra game for SEC teams is an extra game that USC never has to play.
I have to listen to my friend, people in the office and sports bars (living in LA) moan about why USC is not in the BCS championship. Well the BCS rewards victories vs. ranked teams and schedule strength-one loss will kill USC's season every time if they are going against the SEC (LSU 2 losses in 07').
We need a playoff system in college football, until then, if USC blows a big game they have to live with it. Sounds like sour grapes for USC fans. Another thing that kills me is that a lot of USC fans don't know much about the other conferences teams like the SEC, Big 12, Mountain West, etc. Try watching an SEC game, and quit being so myopic.
Good luck with your team, I hope that USC somehow makes it out of their tough schedule, and losing starters to make it to Pasadena. Games @Columbus and Eugene will be tough. OU and Texas looks tough next season, I see Florida playing either one of those teams.

I don't think you see the point I'm trying to make. The point I'm trying to make is THAT THE REASON THE SEC PLAYS MORE RANKED TEAMS IN CONFERENCE IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T PLAY OOC TEAMS THAT HAVE A REAL SHOT OF BEATING THEM!!! EVERY Pac-10 team but Arizona played at least 1 ranked OOC team this year. Washington, Oregon, and Oregon State played as many ranked OOC teams as the entire SEC! Can you not see that if Oregon State didn't go to Penn State and Utah but stayed at home and played Georgia Southern and SMU they would be 11-2 and in the top 10? Or if Oregon didn't play Boise State but Idaho they're 11-2? Or if Cal didn't go to Maryland but played Delaware at home they're 10-3? Not to mention half the teams lost a game due to the 9th conference game. The Pac-10 loses 10-15 games a year due to playing tough OOC games and an extra conference game. And that is the problem, most people just look at w/l records to determine how good a team is, which is why the Pac-10 was looked down upon so much.

Do this: go through all 12 SEC teams' schedules, and pull out one of the bad Sun Belt teams or 1-AA teams, and add a 9th conference game. You've just added 6 losses to the conference. Then pull an extra cupcake off their OOC and replace it with a top 25 team. You've added another 5-10 losses. So just by making those changes, you've almost guaranteed every team in the SEC at least 1 loss, and a lower ranking.

And I'm well aware that Georgia played in Arizona this year. That is the first time since 1965 they've played a regular season game in a state that doesn't have an SEC team, North Carolina, or Virginia.

 

[gmoney72]

I am the biggest Florida fan on here. Go back and look through past years of all my posts and you will see. I feel so sorry for all other teams in NCAA Div 1 CFB that I want to help your team and go ahead and give you some bulletin board material to help inspire your teams.

At the recent CBB game with the Florida Gators at home taking on Arkansas; some of the Gators, Tim Tebow amongst other and Coach's Urban Myer and Charlie Strong all made little speeches to the crowd. My favorite quote came from Joe Haden.

Cornerback Joe Haden thanked Tebow and linebacker Brandon Spikes for staying in school, then said, "WE'RE GOING TO WIN IT AGAIN NEXT YEAR"

So for all you crying, whining fans from other programs out there; Go ahead and post it up on your bulleting board. It won't matter. The Gators will repeat next year making it 3 Titles in 4 years. That will make the Florida Gators the only team in History to ever win 3 out right titles (no split championships) in 4 years! Your Florida Gators. The dynasty is just begining. Come get some

 

[russ1945]

This thing can go on and on. In GoSooners thread "Bradford staying at OU" I made three posts in a row #42, #43, & #44 which deals mainly with returning starters for OU, Texas, and Florida. It was pretty astounding to see that even though you kept Tebow that you lost 28 TD's from last years squad. Now be honest now. That is the biggest loss among those three teams. I was beginning to believe you guys until I did my homework. Now I feel like Corso and I have to say "not so fast my friends." That is my final say on this thread although I know I will take a pounding from the Floridians.

 

[Conan]

I don't think you see the point I'm trying to make. The point I'm trying to make is THAT THE REASON THE SEC PLAYS MORE RANKED TEAMS IN CONFERENCE IS BECAUSE THEY DON'T PLAY OOC TEAMS THAT HAVE A REAL SHOT OF BEATING THEM!!! EVERY Pac-10 team but Arizona played at least 1 ranked OOC team this year. Washington, Oregon, and Oregon State played as many ranked OOC teams as the entire SEC! Can you not see that if Oregon State didn't go to Penn State and Utah but stayed at home and played Georgia Southern and SMU they would be 11-2 and in the top 10? Or if Oregon didn't play Boise State but Idaho they're 11-2? Or if Cal didn't go to Maryland but played Delaware at home they're 10-3? Not to mention half the teams lost a game due to the 9th conference game. The Pac-10 loses 10-15 games a year due to playing tough OOC games and an extra conference game. And that is the problem, most people just look at w/l records to determine how good a team is, which is why the Pac-10 was looked down upon so much.

Do this: go through all 12 SEC teams' schedules, and pull out one of the bad Sun Belt teams or 1-AA teams, and add a 9th conference game. You've just added 6 losses to the conference. Then pull an extra cupcake off their OOC and replace it with a top 25 team. You've added another 5-10 losses. So just by making those changes, you've almost guaranteed every team in the SEC at least 1 loss, and a lower ranking.

And I'm well aware that Georgia played in Arizona this year. That is the first time since 1965 they've played a regular season game in a state that doesn't have an SEC team, North Carolina, or Virginia.

That was some of the best reasoning in this entire thread. What you might have added to it was the fact that this has been going on for years. Year after year these so-called elite teams go untested because the entire conference goes untested vs the rest of the country.

But they claim they don't have to play outside of the SEC because it's so tough... even though untested vs the rest of the country. How can anyone really know how tough it really is if they only play each other? And, when they do go outside the conference to make up 4 more games to add to the shortest of all conference schedules in the country, they play wussies.

I see things like, well we go on the road vs Vandy or So. Carolina too and those games aren't so easy... I mean they say these things as if nobody else in the USA in any other conference has the same kind of concerns? But to listen to an SEC fan talk about their schedule, you'd think this was something unique in every aspect and how hard life is for them and only them.

You are right, if the Floridas and LSU's and Alabamas in the SEC played some meaningful OOC games, games that really represented the rest of CFB in this country, they would inevitably lose their share. Then, beating each other wouldn't necessarily mean beating a top-10 or at the very least a ranked team. The whole conferernce loses, even the good teams when any one of them goes out on the road and gets beat because now their intra-conference games carry less weight than they did when they played nothing but patsies and stayed undefeated.

Because the entire conference plays so few games vs any other BCS conference, there is no way to truly rate them by comparison to the rest of the country.

Logically, the consequences of that are such that you will get blowouts and major "UPSETS" in games that get sided where the books make a killing. The reason why is because the SEC is overrated, or at the very least inaccurately rated. The reason why is that they claim too much credit for beating each other, having nothing to gauge them with outside of thier own conference. Utah/Alabama is the best example of that this year. Then you look at how well the whole conference did in its bowls and you end up with something looking much more average than elite... and it happens the same way year after year.

It would be nice to see some outside competition on a regular basis... say at least two BCS opponents from outside the SEC per team per year the way most of the other BCS conferences do it. Keep a couple of patsies on the schedule for the sake of getting reps in a game to polish up. But to play 4 patsies per year, or just teams close to home, that don't test a team's ability to travel and win and it is no real test at all. Comparing records between conferences among conference leaders after week 4 is like comparing apples to oranges.

That's why Florida barely got by the team that Utah literally manhandled and why nobody saw it coming. Utah comes along and proved that they are the better team, maybe even better than the SEC champ who barely escaped losing to the same team Utah thoroughly beat down when they played them.

There wouldn't be these doubts or questions asked if the SEC got out there so everyone could truly measure them up to the rest of CFB. Until that day comes, there will be many more "upsets" based on a false impression of SEC superiority over everyone else.

One bowl game per year isn't enough OOC action. If it was, then everyone would only have a conference schedule and a bowl game without any extra OOC games to play, in reality, the same way the SEC has set things up for itself.

 

[ChrisParadise]

That was some of the best reasoning in this entire thread. What you might have added to it was the fact that this has been going on for years. Year after year these so-called elite teams go untested because the entire conference goes untested vs the rest of the country.

But they claim they don't have to play outside of the SEC because it's so tough... even though untested vs the rest of the country. How can anyone really know how tough it really is if they only play each other? And, when they do go outside the conference to make up 4 more games to add to the shortest of all conference schedules in the country, they play wussies.

I see things like, well we go on the road vs Vandy or So. Carolina too and those games aren't so easy... I mean they say these things as if nobody else in the USA in any other conference has the same kind of concerns? But to listen to an SEC fan talk about their schedule, you'd think this was something unique in every aspect and how hard life is for them and only them.

You are right, if the Floridas and LSU's and Alabamas in the SEC played some meaningful OOC games, games that really represented the rest of CFB in this country, they would inevitably lose their share. Then, beating each other wouldn't necessarily mean beating a top-10 or at the very least a ranked team. The whole conferernce loses, even the good teams when any one of them goes out on the road and gets beat because now their intra-conference games carry less weight than they did when they played nothing but patsies and stayed undefeated.

Because the entire conference plays so few games vs any other BCS conference, there is no way to truly rate them by comparison to the rest of the country.

Logically, the consequences of that are such that you will get blowouts and major "UPSETS" in games that get sided where the books make a killing. The reason why is because the SEC is overrated, or at the very least inaccurately rated. The reason why is that they claim too much credit for beating each other, having nothing to gauge them with outside of thier own conference. Utah/Alabama is the best example of that this year. Then you look at how well the whole conference did in its bowls and you end up with something looking much more average than elite... and it happens the same way year after year.

It would be nice to see some outside competition on a regular basis... say at least two BCS opponents from outside the SEC per team per year the way most of the other BCS conferences do it. Keep a couple of patsies on the schedule for the sake of getting reps in a game to polish up. But to play 4 patsies per year, or just teams close to home, that don't test a team's ability to travel and win and it is no real test at all. Comparing records between conferences among conference leaders after week 4 is like comparing apples to oranges.

That's why Florida barely got by the team that Utah literally manhandled and why nobody saw it coming. Utah comes along and proved that they are the better team, maybe even better than the SEC champ who barely escaped losing to the same team Utah thoroughly beat down when they played them.

There wouldn't be these doubts or questions asked if the SEC got out there so everyone could truly measure them up to the rest of CFB. Until that day comes, there will be many more "upsets" based on a false impression of SEC superiority over everyone else.

One bowl game per year isn't enough OOC action. If it was, then everyone would only have a conference schedule and a bowl game without any extra OOC games to play, in reality, the same way the SEC has set things up for itself.

forget schedules for a minute

every year the most elite high school prospects sign with SEC schools

every year the SEC puts more elite players in the NFL

so, they come to the SEC on top, and leave on top , but while there they suck because they dont adjust thier schedules to play teams to satisfy you?

give it up. now matter how much whining, crying, debating, twisting facts - its not gonna change how the media, players, coaches, and GM's view the SEC. but they must all be wrong because you guys say so?

hell, even a program like TN thats in turmoil is turning away recruits that will start in the Pac-10. and today it looks like an OC from the Big East is going to knoxville as an unpaid graduate assistant. yes an offensive coordinator from a big east team would rather coach for free in the SEC

The SEC is where everyone wants to be. you west coast guys have better weather, down south we have better football. get over it

 

[Conan]

forget schedules for a minute

every year the most elite high school prospects sign with SEC schools

every year the SEC puts more elite players in the NFL

so, they come to the SEC on top, and leave on top , but while there they suck because they dont adjust thier schedules to play teams to satisfy you?

give it up. now matter how much whining, crying, debating, twisting facts - its not gonna change how the media, players, coaches, and GM's view the SEC. but they must all be wrong because you guys say so?

hell, even a program like TN thats in turmoil is turning away recruits that will start in the Pac-10. and today it looks like an OC from the Big East is going to knoxville as an unpaid graduate assistant. yes an offensive coordinator from a big east team would rather coach for free in the SEC

The SEC is where everyone wants to be. you west coast guys have better weather, down south we have better football. get over it

Forget the SEC for a minute...

Replace SEC with USC and your statements mean exactly the same thing.

And remembering again the SEC, just for the hell of it -- all that may be true to an extent, as you put it, then you would think with such superiority built in, (as if that was the only football conference in the country that was worth anything... so to speak) you'd figure that whenever they did swap games with teams from outside the south, they'd simply dominate them. But they don't. For that matter they lose more games than they win especially when they play the Pac-10 or any decent school from the west.

Go figure.

("Conveniently" I used the time frame of the past 7 years... maybe that's a little too current for you? I hope not.)

PS... Better weather... and better coaches too don't forget.

 

[ChrisParadise]

Forget the SEC for a minute...

Replace SEC with USC and your statements mean exactly the same thing.

Ive never once denied that USC is the nations premier program over the past 6-8(?) yrs. Just like Miami was before them , Nebraska before them, Oaklahoma etc.

They had a good run which is probably coming to end end in the next few years, history has shown us how it works.

However, take USC out of thePac-10 and you have a bunch of average BCS conference teams. The SEC has so much talent and depth that any of 8 teams can win it all any year.

I dont know what your argument is. Ill take USC even over anyone for any game next year. But that doesnt mean Arizona St or Washington deserve a god damn thing.

 

[ChrisParadise]

by the way Conan. i applaud carol for hiring a former UT QB as his OC. even if he sucked so bad he had to transfer to get some PT...hes still a good ole east TN boy that knows football. ironic that Carrol hands his offense over to a guy who grew up 20min from knoxville watching SEC football.

the vols interviewed him for a postion coach spot and probably should have gave him a job