For Those Banking on the 49ers to Win SB

[PatsFan1283]

Yeah packers went like 15-1 the next year, that was more about Rodgers coming into his prime and hitting his stride as the season went on. Also, the nfc was pretty weak then as it was before the Harbaugh 9ers/Legion of boom ascended. They beat Cutler in the NFCCG. They were favored in the SB over a pretty good Steelers team.


Giants qualify but really none of their wins were that Cinderella besides the 2007 Super Bowl. They were like a 2pt dog to the Pats in that 2011 SB.

‘12 Ravens had a Cinderella run, were big underdogs to NE and Denver and even 9ers in SB. But even, they were a perennial contender from ‘08-12 and just broke through at the end.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Depends on definition of Cinderalla i guess...Packers did win as 6th seed. in 2011(i believe). Had to win their final play-off game just to make it in...

That was a strange team. Never trailed any game at any point by more then 7 the whole season and post-season.

Eli's Giants i would say made Cinderella runs in both their championship years. His best team was actually the year after they beat Patriots in SB---went 13-3 and of course that year they lose first play-off game of that season. Eli only made play-offs 3 times his entire career.

They were better in terms of record but not sure they were a better team at year end. That’s the year Plax shot himself and was out right? And Strahan retired after SB win.

They didn’t win but this is as Cinderella as any, the 2008 cardinals w Warner resurgence. They had Warner, boldin, Fitzgerald so even this run didn’t feel crazy at time, but they were 9-7 and like 80-1 to win it all a week before the playoffs started.

 

[PatsFan1283]

The big “Cinderella runs” in the nfl kinda been the teams that have these monster seasons but fade right after and kinda came out of nowhere to do it. ‘’03 Panthers, ‘15 Panthers, ‘16 Falcons, ‘17 Eagles, 2005 Seahawks. 2006 bears. But all of these teams were 1 or 2 seeds.

 

[exploited17]

Giants beat the undefeated Pats may be the only SB winning Cinderella
And they had a pash rush
Lead the league in sacks
They could get to the QB qith 4 guys leaving 7 in the back
Thats how you beat great QBs
Pack are not that
24th in sacks

 

[crudebar]

Giants beat the undefeated Pats may be the only SB winning Cinderella
And they had a pash rush
Lead the league in sacks
They could get to the QB qith 4 guys leaving 7 in the back
Thats how you beat great QBs
Pack are not that
24th in sacks

Giants beating the Pats wasn't that surprising because it's one game. I think just about everyone thought there was a chance.

Hell Iverson's 76ers would have won a championship over Shaq/Kobe Lakers(one of the best all-time teams) if it was a 1 and done.

Simply saying a 1 and done does top teams/qb's no favors. Peyton Manning is probably the best i ever saw and truly only won 1 SB at the top of his game.

And if people are really going to argue that Tom Brady was sooo much better then Manning---well. Luck plays a big role in 1 and done.

Hell Phil Hellmuth can win heads up sit and gos against best of best when its a short 1 and done.

 

[exploited17]

They won 4 though including SB
Beating 2 QB greats

 

[Avocado33]

Obviously a lot of variability in single elimination tournaments. I would say road teams have been reasonably successful.

But sample size honestly is never going be large enough in our lifetimes to make any conclusions

 

[crudebar]

They won 4 though including SB
Beating 2 QB greats

Great QBs get you into play-offs just about every single year as that is a much larger sample....

But they don't guarantee you 2, 3, 4 championships like the best of the best NBA players will...

Parity is also so huge in sports these days. Back in the '90s and early 2000s so many teams had no clue how to build their clubs---now all teams pretty much run off the same blue print.

 

[PatsFan1283]

Giants had already won 2x as around +7 I believe. And NE had really started to slow. The chargers in the AFCCG despite LT and gates both injured as well as rivers playing on a torn acl had chances to win that game. They had scares vs Kyle boller and some bum for Philly down the stretch (don’t even recall who now), they were limping towards the finish line.

NE beating the greatest show on turf rams was a legitimately surprising result to people though. Rams were expected to kill them. But that was that ‘99-02ish era where anything kinda went. Rams led the league in turnovers.

 

[exploited17]

Great QBs get you into play-offs just about every single year as that is a much larger sample....

But they don't guarantee you 2, 3, 4 championships like the best of the best NBA players will...

Parity is also so huge in sports these days. Back in the '90s and early 2000s so many teams had no clue how to build their clubs---now all teams pretty much run off the same blue print.

My point is if you gonna be a Cinderella you better have something special about you like a great pass rush
Pack do not have that

 

[crudebar]

My point is if you gonna be a Cinderella you better have something special about you like a great pass rush
Pack do not have that

Don't they have Rodgers--he could be special.
Don't they have Jaire---shut down jefferson maybe he will be special
Don't they have a run game---maybe that will be special.

What great qb are they going to run into(before sb) that it has to be the pass rush that is special? Maybe their d-backs will be so good the rush will just evidently get there anyways...

I don't think this Packers team is anything great either---i am saying they have a chance like all the teams that make play-offs.

If i thought they were great i would be showing u a SB ticket when they were 4-8. At that point i didn't even think they would make play-offs even if they won their last 5.

 

[exploited17]

You need a D to win on the road
Specifically pass rush

 

[Avocado33]

NE beating the greatest show on turf rams was a legitimately surprising result to people though. Rams were expected to kill them. But that was that ‘99-02ish era where anything kinda went. Rams led the league in turnovers.

First SB I fully remember. Remember everyone being surprised

Pretty sure Rams stormed back in that game but Brady led drive to get the kick. Game extended another quarter Rams may have ran away with it

 

[crudebar]

You need a D to win on the road
Specifically pass rush

There defense was actually suppose to be one of the best in the league going into this season.

I have $0 on them this season. I had no clue what this team would be...

Had 5k on them last season at 16 to 1 when i really liked them.

So not preaching Packers but to say they haven't a chance is pretty laughable(imo)

 

[crudebar]

NE beating the greatest show on turf rams was a legitimately surprising result to people though. Rams were expected to kill them. But that was that ‘99-02ish era where anything kinda went. Rams led the league in turnovers.

This and when the Packers lost in i believe '98 to denver. Back when Favre was being talked about as the best ever. Who would have figured it would be his last SB appearance and last mvp season at like 28 or 29. Was coming off 3 straight mvps and b2b super bowl appearances.

I believe both were around -14.

I remember a sports book if you signed up offered you up to a 1k wager on either saint louis or ne at no spread. They must have cleaned up there---i know i lost 1k.

 

[exploited17]

Packers were11vs Denver

 

[peanuts]

I want to see the Niners vs chiefs in Super Bowl. It's going to be a revenge game if ever.

 

[crudebar]

I was so green in sports betting i didn't know if overtime counted in the wager. I remember frantically trying to read through the rules to see if overtime counted when it looked like that SB was going to OT...lol

These were the days in gambling. Just bonus hunting every casino and sports books and pulling in 100k a year easy. Back in the hs and college days. Checks in the mail box just about every day needing no skill at all to win.

 

[LuckysBoy]

I concur, will be surprised if they get to SB and then win it with rookie QB.SF has won 9 straight and have not lost since being tuned up by the Chiefs.You can only play who is on your schedule, but that division is pretty weak this year. THey Are a different team from early in year, when they had a lot of guys out and did not have Mcaferry yet.SF has played 2 teams all season with a winning record,KC ripped em, and Chargers danced with them but was missing a bunch of guys when they played them.Playoffs with a QB with NO experience there, could easily end poorly and coud be the first round.Could be GB in first round and I am sure they would like to even the score after GB gave SF the game last year in the playoffs.SF absolutely had no business winning that game.SF did not move the ball all game.Rodgers going up against a rookie, would be hard for me to bet on Purdy.Even New Orleans losing 13-0 was really closer than score indicated , as Kamara had a couple bad TOs in that game.Prescott is playing well, I think NFC Philly or Dallas goes to SB.The thing the Pack has great about them is Rodgers.He may not be as great as he once was,But you just need him to Once be as great as he ever was.

 

[Avocado33]

I want to see the Niners vs chiefs in Super Bowl. It's going to be a revenge game if ever.

Preseason pick for me. Seems live but Chiefs seems to be scraping by right now….they could use the bye IMO