JJ, definately a garbage book. Nate, what are you talking about. Your people called him. He didn't call you clowns begging for a bonus. You called him for a post up and now don't want to live within your own rules. What a joke. And answer my question dammit. Why not just repeal your bonus and spare all of us at this forum your squelling. This book is junk.
Nate is the worst manager I have ever seen. When somebody is critical and questions his book, he attacks the and claims they past post. A real professional manager works with the clients in a professional manner rather than attacks them. If you want to be accussed of everything under the sun and get the runaround and get lied to. Then First Fidelity is for you.
SPORTSBOOKS WANTED
Ones that are upfront about their wagering limits and arent afraid to give you that action and sometimes beyond,if you request it on a noncircled game.
Ones that arent afraid of offering at least a 15% cash bonus,or 30% Bonus Play, or reduced vig to entice people to send their money to another country.
Ones that dont cold call you and look desperate for your action.
Ones that pay relatively fast once youve fulfilled their requirements and look forward to having your business again ( knowing that the odds of you losing money back to them is pretty good)
Ones that give you FAIR casino games.
Ones that dont have directors of operations that have plenty of time on there hands to post in forums about how people come in and out of their book and accuse them of being scandalists for doing so.
Currently there are many,many books that measure up to all of these requests minus the fair casino games, where it is believed that not one book out there is fair in this regard.
Ones that are upfront about their wagering limits and arent afraid to give you that action and sometimes beyond,if you request it on a noncircled game.
Ones that arent afraid of offering at least a 15% cash bonus,or 30% Bonus Play, or reduced vig to entice people to send their money to another country.
Ones that dont cold call you and look desperate for your action.
Ones that pay relatively fast once youve fulfilled their requirements and look forward to having your business again ( knowing that the odds of you losing money back to them is pretty good)
Ones that give you FAIR casino games.
Ones that dont have directors of operations that have plenty of time on there hands to post in forums about how people come in and out of their book and accuse them of being scandalists for doing so.
Currently there are many,many books that measure up to all of these requests minus the fair casino games, where it is believed that not one book out there is fair in this regard.
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Gentlemen, these are the facts and they are undisputed.
I deposited 1300 with FF earlier this year and lost it. I played with Vietbet, their sister book, and lost my deposit there too.
So I never took a payout from either FF or their sister book and lost my deposits. They then solicit and invite me for a nice limit/bonus only to take it back.
I got referred to FF by a friend. Well, they were under the impression that my buddy who referred me and I are abusing the bonuses. He referred me to FF (got no referral bonus) and I referred him to Vietbet (got a referral bonus and lost it).
I have clarified to FF that we are two different individuals with separate neteller and offshore accnts. Is it hard to fathom that one peson refers a friend to FF, and then the person who got referred refers the referror to a sister book of FF? I mean does everyone know of Vietbet being a sister book of FF? I don't think so.
I have never taken a payout from FF or Vietbet and always played by the rules - I have no idea why they classify me as a "bonus whore" or scammer. These terms are being used very losely.
Gentlemen, these are the facts and they are undisputed.
I deposited 1300 with FF earlier this year and lost it. I played with Vietbet, their sister book, and lost my deposit there too.
So I never took a payout from either FF or their sister book and lost my deposits. They then solicit and invite me for a nice limit/bonus only to take it back.
I got referred to FF by a friend. Well, they were under the impression that my buddy who referred me and I are abusing the bonuses. He referred me to FF (got no referral bonus) and I referred him to Vietbet (got a referral bonus and lost it).
I have clarified to FF that we are two different individuals with separate neteller and offshore accnts. Is it hard to fathom that one peson refers a friend to FF, and then the person who got referred refers the referror to a sister book of FF? I mean does everyone know of Vietbet being a sister book of FF? I don't think so.
I have never taken a payout from FF or Vietbet and always played by the rules - I have no idea why they classify me as a "bonus whore" or scammer. These terms are being used very losely.
shark and steve, you both make good points. There are a select few very well organized booking institutions. If other books would follow in their footsteps they would do better.
And like studbolt said, why not repeal the bonuses? I and many others here play with books and get no bonus or reduced vig.
And like studbolt said, why not repeal the bonuses? I and many others here play with books and get no bonus or reduced vig.
Hello, my name is Larry and I'm managaing the business of Wager7.com, which is the main agent of First Fidelity Sportsbook and Casino. I was unaware that Nate, who is with the youwager part of First Fidelity is dealing with issues in this forum. I will sort through this and have Nate discontinue his postings here. I, Larry, will handle the issues. I hope to do a MUCH smoother job.
I would like to point out that we do market aggressively, and we also cold call to people that have inquired with us in the past, but we will make every effort to stop any calls that are at inappropriate times and will send out memos to clerks immediately. We will present our marketing offers to prospects, but if he or she becomes annoyed with our call we'll politely discontinue our calls to them. We've built our reputation on Paying and paying FAST. We aren't aware of any "no pays" or "slow pays"
at all. Our customer service at wager7.com is trained to be polite and answer questions honestly and it is not in our practice to relinquish any offer of any kind. If there is a misunderstanding, we hope the person will call or write us to iron it out. We've given millions of dollars away in bonuses and have had thousands of happy customers and we consider just one unhappy customer too much. I hope I can be of assistance in this forum.
In a fairly large company you'll always have somebody who seams to step out of the character that the company strives to portray and its up to the management on a higher level to sort through it and fix it. I hope that I can keep customers or potential customers in this forum as happy as our company wants our customers to be.
at all. Our customer service at wager7.com is trained to be polite and answer questions honestly and it is not in our practice to relinquish any offer of any kind. If there is a misunderstanding, we hope the person will call or write us to iron it out. We've given millions of dollars away in bonuses and have had thousands of happy customers and we consider just one unhappy customer too much. I hope I can be of assistance in this forum.
In a fairly large company you'll always have somebody who seams to step out of the character that the company strives to portray and its up to the management on a higher level to sort through it and fix it. I hope that I can keep customers or potential customers in this forum as happy as our company wants our customers to be.
Nate probably said nothing the other 300 off shore books aren't thinking about bonus shoppers, LOL. His mistake was he was being honest. Having said that I do not fault the players for playing by established rules. I know it's easy to say but seriously if you do not want bonus hunters do not offer them. If a player comes in and fulfills all the requirements than I do not think there is a thing wrong with that.
As far as First Fidelity they are a solid book in my opinion, they pay and pay when you beat them. I do not condone the marketing but they have deep pockets from all that I hear and will pay you. They have taken some "bad beats" that other stores used as an excuse to close down and run with the players money but this shop never missed a beat. Welcome to the forum Larry.
I like that little Vietbet shop too.
As far as First Fidelity they are a solid book in my opinion, they pay and pay when you beat them. I do not condone the marketing but they have deep pockets from all that I hear and will pay you. They have taken some "bad beats" that other stores used as an excuse to close down and run with the players money but this shop never missed a beat. Welcome to the forum Larry.
I like that little Vietbet shop too.
Larry,
Thanks for comming on here to explain. I can't tell you how refreshing it is to have a professional representative from First Fidelity come on here and explain your position. Nate has become abusive and offensive in the way he talka to posters who have questions for him and the book. If somebody has a problem with First Fidelity, Nate has to call them names and accuse them of being some sort of bonus whore. He is very unprofessional.
Thanks for comming on here to explain. I can't tell you how refreshing it is to have a professional representative from First Fidelity come on here and explain your position. Nate has become abusive and offensive in the way he talka to posters who have questions for him and the book. If somebody has a problem with First Fidelity, Nate has to call them names and accuse them of being some sort of bonus whore. He is very unprofessional.
WARNING SIGN!!!!!!
Remember Bill from New Age Bets? How he would engage in flame wars on a posting forum? Anyone who cannot maintain themselves in a professional manner cannot run a sportsbook in a professional manner and will fail. If you have a boss Nate, I hope he fires you for his sake. You are hurting his business with each post that you make.
Remember Bill from New Age Bets? How he would engage in flame wars on a posting forum? Anyone who cannot maintain themselves in a professional manner cannot run a sportsbook in a professional manner and will fail. If you have a boss Nate, I hope he fires you for his sake. You are hurting his business with each post that you make.
