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Finding Nemo over 30 would have been a good play. I failed you Gil.
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Shut my piehole? That's hilarious. The film will NOT go over 15mil. There is no chance after Friday's numbers.

Oren, as for your comments. Did you see that in any of my official plays? I didn't think so. Yes, I thought that Hollywood Homicide +2.5 mil was a FAR better play than D and D at -2.5 mil, but, I didn't play it anyway.

I got 12-1 odds on D and D going UNDER 15 mil, and, it's going to pay.

You guys are a bunch of jealous, sore losers. Oren, out of curiosity, when was the last time that you thought a film would go UNDER? I honestly can't remember. You might want to start taking your natural bias into account when you handicap these.

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Here is something from Boxofficeprophets.com. And, neither Boxofficereport, nor Boxofficemojo, are predicting that this film will break 14.5 after Friday's numbers.


Dumb and Dumberer: When Harry Met Lloyd
The first words of the film's title are good examples of the types of people responsible for this film's estimated $4.6 million Friday gross. With any luck, however, word has quickly spread as to how much of a turdburger this prequel is. Logic dictates a 2.7 multiplier and a $12.4 million weekend, but given the target audience, who knows.


Oren, Gil, give it up, guys. It's over on this bet for you.

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Hmmm I think we'll just have to go back 3 weeks to my under 9 million The In-Laws wager. You might want to lay off the reefer man it's seriously inhibiting your memory recal skills. So with your logic, we can only call your bullshit when it's posted in your "my official plays" posts? If the theater reports had stood, your FAR BETTER PLAY of Hollywood Homicide +2 1/2 would have a hard time cashing. I mentioned that I took Dumb and Dumberer, which is outperforming it on even less screens by the way, although I'm still probably going to lose because of those ****ing theater counts, but anyways, then you jump in with your "On top of that, I thought that Homicide would gross more than Dumb and Dumber anyway, despite the fact that I thought DD was playing in 100 more theaters." So you expect me to sit here and listen to your smug ass babble profusuley on how you can do no wrong when all you have to do is scroll back 3 pages to see this stinky remark? Yeah, I lost again this week, but I already admitted it before we even had estimates because I made my plays before the theater counts came out, which were totally out of wack. D&D will be close to 14.5 million, who knows what it would have been with another 200 theaters. Let me guess, with an average of 7 k a theater it would end up being 14.999 million. Sorry, you're right! Pass the pipe, it's not a microphone! Hey, didn't Fast and the Furious go over last week?

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Oren, no offense man, but, you are a ****ing idiot and you couldn't make a long term profit doing this if your pathetic, lonely, no-good life depended on it. Again, it was NOT one of my plays. I didn't play it. What part of that do you NOT understand?

You are a complete ****ing idiot. Other than the In Laws, when was your last wager on an "under"?

Get a life, loser. You need one. And, from now on, if you want to make some money, just play what I tell you to play, dude. You will be alot better off in the long run.

What a ****in' clown.

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LOL damn, someone woke up with a tampon stuck in their hole today. I also bet on the under Fast and the Furious, but I hedged it because it was a shitty play. And I bet the under for the Matrix which ALSO LOST.

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I just made a thousand bucks off of your under 15 million play, idiot! Can you read? I work on computers dude, trust me, I've got a life. I just happen to have access to this board while I'm working, which is a lot. I think I'm still at around 75% on these things, and I've got another dime on x2 over t3, which is also going to cash. If you want respect try not being so pompous. I gave you props but you never admit that you're wrong, so how can I resist rubbing it in when you open your mouth and a fart comes out?

"I got a big ol' blunt
I'm lampin' on my front porch
about to put a torch to it
then Coco said don't do it
please don't hit that shit in front of my little four year old son
she sent him inside the house meanwhile my Sheri steadily rolled one
[what are you doing (daddy)?]
after the other
then another
'cause I'm rollin' in the dough
so we rolled in the indoe
as if the kid didn't know
he's lookin' through the windoew yo while we tryin' to hide it
to make a boy grow to be ignorant and misguided
about the bud
now I have to play the part of the advisor
because the bud is just the tasty tantalizer
the bud not the beer 'cause the bud makes me wiser"

or in JCambert's case, dumber
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"Oren, no offense man, but, you are a ****ing idiot"

LOL that's classic.


I haven't been keeping track but after this week I'm guessing my winning percentage will drop below 75 percent, if it hasn't already. But I'm still in the black.
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$$Ka-Ching$$
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on a side note, JP go take your Midol...no one bashed you last week when you made bombastic statements regarding 2F2F like:

"Oren, why on earth would you be starting to doubt that it is going to go UNDER? It is going to stay under...trust me on this one.

WRONG!

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The following are the "expert" predictions:

Boxofficeguru: $53 mil. This is the ONLY expert predicting that it will go over $50million, and, incidentally, he is probably the least accurate of all the experts when it comes to predictions.

Boxofficemojo: $34.1 mil. This guy is the most accurate of the lot.

Boxofficereport: $48 mil. This guy is the second most accurate of the lot.

Lee's Movie info: $40.8 mil. This guy is probably the second LEAST accurate, right behind Boxofficeguru.

Boxofficeprophets: $44.7 mil

the-number.com: $40 mil.


And, when you combine all this with the fact that the UNDER in BOTH places was taking back money, this was a no brainer weekend, guys. This is almost like free money. Oren, you shouldn't have bought back the bets, man.

JP


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Gil, could you please grow up? Especially considering that you are WRONG. It's 18.95 million, not 20.5 million. Secondly, using a 2.6 multiplier, it is STILL going to stay under, my friend, so, stop talking garbage and go make some more plays at Intertops, will you?

Then when you lose after all this, you are curiously silent? Learn to take the losers as well as the winners dude...
 
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lol O.K. Dumb and Dumberer squeezed out a loud fart yesterday. It's a bona-fide bomb. My bad!

I can't resist:

"Don't give too much credence to those absurd crowd reports."
-JCambert posted June 14, 2003 12:01 AM

on boxofficereport.com:
"Anyone see anything today, Saturday? If so, what were the crowds like at the three new releases?"

-JCambert Posted: June 14 2003,4:50

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I was just clowning you dude. Thanks again for the under play, it has helped me recoup my recent losses and then some.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Oren1:
I've got another dime on x2 over t3<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
How is that possible? What book takes a dime on a movie play?
 

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Ninja- Before Olympic dropped their limits and number of bets allowed it would have been easy to do. Two bets to win $500 each. I have the same 1k on x2 as it was one of the last round of bets before the new limits. They have taken much bigger bets than this even on movie props.

Also you can continue to bet multiple $300 bets at WSEX for as many as you want or they will allow you.
 
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That's good to know, but it's a good thing I didn't know that until now, Lakerfan. I haven't won a cent at that place. I bet on that prop about at Olympic 3 times, once each time they changed their odds, which they used to allow.
 

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Oren- Agree with you that WSEX lines are generally the sharpest. Have to have a pretty good angle to bet them.
 
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Do you know if Bodog will allow you to bet the maximum amount on two different brackets for the same prop? I asked them about it yesterday and have yet to recieve an response. Seeing some more potential opportunities there...
 

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I do not know Oren. I would guess it would be ok, but with Bodog I think asking makes sense. Hopefully you will get an answer and can share their response.
 
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I'm looking at the Hulk's days to make 100 million specifically. This bracket seems a little skewed, would you say that a movie in June potentially would make more money on a Monday than say, X2, which opened in May? There's not a lot of precedence for enormous openings in June, but looking at July I'm seeing some big numbers. I kind of like 4 and 5 days here, and have already put 50 on each. Might double those up if they let me. The buzz surrounding the Hulk is growing.
 
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I never got a response through email, but I just called them and they said it was O.K. to place the maximum bet on more than one bracket. Like I said I'm taking 4 and 5 days, and will hope for a huge weekend, (not over 100 million, of course.) At first the buzz around the Hulk was pretty negative, but I'm predicting that the current marketing campaign will pump up this movies performace somewhat, if not a lot. 3500+ theaters. It is kind of hard to guage, because so many people seem to have a negative opinion of this film based soley on the previews, but, other than that, it's got everything going for it. The kids obviously aren't going to care that he looks fake. Goldmember, which did 95 million in little over 5 days(including thursday night which was 3.5 million,) had a 3 day of 76. I'm betting that the Hulk makes aroun 85, if not a lot more here. Goldmember made 10 million and 9 million on Monday and Tuesday in July, don't see why the Hulk can't do it in June. Plus these have great value at 7/2 and 15/2 odds.
 

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