Drafting Carson Wentz will set your NFL team back at least 7 years

[THawk+]

I am rooting for Wentz. Comes from a small school. Good family values and a good young kid.

With that said your comment is extremely stupid. Football is a team sport. The quarterback is only one part of the equation. The score of the game also dictates how the game is played. If you fall behind and have to pass then it is allot easier for the defense which seemed to be part of the problem yesterday.

But using your rationale......then a quarterback that threw for a 154 yards and 3 interceptions in a big game like the playoffs and a chance to go to the Superbowl must not be an MVP level quarterback.......see Tom Brady against Baltimore in 2009.....just to name one of numerous poor performances. I think Brady is a great quarterback but even great quarterbacks don't perform great every game.

Wentz not really a great QB with the plethora of good/very good QB now in the league. Yes every good QB has a "bad" game I am not going to compare a playoff game to week 11 of the regular season, not apple to apple.

I watched the game he stunk from the first series. He left some plays out there, he looked lost all game long. I would assign the blame on the head coach for how the Eagles season has gone. He seems to have turned into a pumpkin since last year.
He has not had his team ready to go.

 

[Enfuego]

I started this thread years ago as I had watched Wentz at NDSU and thought he was a stiff and the Eagles were clearly wrong for drafting him.

He's definitely not a stiff but he's not an elite NFL QB either. Could he be elite? Hell yes he could be elite.

Drafting him definitely didn't set the team back but he also didn't win them their long sought after SB title either. He was a significant contributor but he didn't win them a title.

It will be interesting to see what happens moving forward. I do find it amusing all the guys that bump this thread when he has one good game as if that defines his career. You never see this thread bumped when he sucks.

 

[NBAcapper08]

you started this thread saying he would set our franchise back at least 7 years and we won a super bowl 2 years later. Shut the fuck up

 

[Enfuego]

you started this thread saying he would set our franchise back at least 7 years and we won a super bowl 2 years later. Shut the fuck up

Did you read my post yes or no? Let me provide the quote for you...

"Drafting him definitely didn't set the team back..."

I accept your apology and thanks for the kind words on a Monday afternoon. Very classy.

 

[JustinCruise]

you started this thread saying he would set our franchise back at least 7 years and we won a super bowl 2 years later. Shut the fuck up

That escalated quickly

 

[NorthernStar]

My nephew played baseball with Carson Wentz in North Dakota. Said he was very smart and was athletic. In high school he wasn't very big and his brother who also played seemed like "the athlete" in the family. Went off to college and grew into his body.

At the time of the draft I thought it was a stretch too. Playing against better players is a big change. The fact that he is smart and athletic definitely improves the probability of success. Especially if you are a smart quarterback (see all the athletic dumb quarterbacks that are huge busts).

HIs college stats were not bad. Mid 60's completion percentage, high TD to Int ratio. Plus he learned how to win at NDSU.

I am on the record of saying I think their coach makes some real bonehead in game decisions. Last year those all worked. Eventually those dumb decision will come back to bite you in the ass. Philadelphia seems to be having some super bowl hangover, injuries and they seem not very well prepared overall on offense and defense. Add a tougher schedule and not winning any of the close games this year and it gets you a losing record. The coaching may have a bigger impact on Wentz's results this year.

 

[JustinCruise]

My nephew played baseball with Carson Wentz in North Dakota. Said he was very smart and was athletic. In high school he wasn't very big and his brother who also played seemed like "the athlete" in the family. Went off to college and grew into his body.

At the time of the draft I thought it was a stretch too. Playing against better players is a big change. The fact that he is smart and athletic definitely improves the probability of success. Especially if you are a smart quarterback (see all the athletic dumb quarterbacks that are huge busts).

HIs college stats were not bad. Mid 60's completion percentage, high TD to Int ratio. Plus he learned how to win at NDSU.

I am on the record of saying I think their coach makes some real bonehead in game decisions. Last year those all worked. Eventually those dumb decision will come back to bite you in the ass. Philadelphia seems to be having some super bowl hangover, injuries and they seem not very well prepared overall on offense and defense. Add a tougher schedule and not winning any of the close games this year and it gets you a losing record. The coaching may have a bigger impact on Wentz's results this year.

Good post

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Patriots or Rams

I will take the Saints and KC for whatever you want....team that wins the Super Bowl is the winner....

 

[CHOPTALK]

I’ll take that too

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Crickets from JC.....

 

[JustinCruise]

Wentz is absolute trash this year

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

Wentz is absolute trash this year

Same as your fantasy teams and threads about fantasy....

 

[5teamparlay]

What happens if Foles wins??

Wentz is injury prone

 

[VIEJODINOSAUR]

What happens if Foles wins??

Wentz is injury prone

He will make another million if he beats the Bears

 

[PoundFoolish]

I will take the Saints and KC for whatever you want....team that wins the Super Bowl is the winner....

I’ll take that too

why didn't you take this JC?

 

[The Greatest One]

Poor enfuego....

started 2 qb threads and got destroyed on both

need a team with wentz and rg3 on it

 

[Enfuego]

Poor enfuego....

started 2 qb threads and got destroyed on both

need a team with wentz and rg3 on it

I would make the point drafting Wentz didn't set the team back 7 years but I'm not sure drafting Wentz has produced the results they thought they'd get out of him either. He is their future but he is injury prone too. I think a number of other signings, in particular their head coach, had much more of an impact on their success than Wentz did. We'll wait and see I guess.

Also, when I started the RGIII thread, there was no debate in anyone's mind, he was a better QB than Kirk Cousins. It wasn't even up for discussion. This is prior to him suffering multiple injuries.

You saying Kirk Cousins was a better QB simply because he's a white guy doesn't do much for your credibility.

 

[The Greatest One]

I would make the point drafting Wentz didn't set the team back 7 years but I'm not sure drafting Wentz has produced the results they thought they'd get out of him either. He is their future but he is injury prone too. I think a number of other signings, in particular their head coach, had much more of an impact on their success than Wentz did. We'll wait and see I guess.

Also, when I started the RGIII thread, there was no debate in anyone's mind, he was a better QB than Kirk Cousins. It wasn't even up for discussion. This is prior to him suffering multiple injuries.

You saying Kirk Cousins was a better QB simply because he's a white guy doesn't do much for your credibility.

I'm right when I say things. I'm not going to go back and forth with you on this bs as I know you live for that. . It's no big deal. You were wrong. It's fine

 

[Enfuego]

I'm right when I say things. I'm not going to go back and forth with you on this bs as I know you live for that. . It's no big deal. You were wrong. It's fine

Haha, saying a bench warming QB, who had next to zero snaps at the time this post was made, was better than a QB who had perhaps the greatest rookie year in NFL history is stupid. And saying it only because of his ethnicity is even dumber. RG was good and then sucked and Cousins isn't a world beater either.

 

[Enfuego]

Do any of you guys still think Carson Wentz is a top 15 NFL QB?