This....Moderates and independents would cross over for Ronnie ..it's a loud minority in the GOP behind trump, I suspect a good amount of the GOP membership would rather have him go away than give him the chance to fuk the party over again with a MAGA heavy themed election.
Only thing that could bring this to a "10" would be a Lake or MGT on the ticket as the Vice President.
I agree Generic Republican X is more electable than Trump, that wasn't the discussion though (I don't think it is a given that DeSantis has widespread appeal either, who knows? he's untested at the national level obviously, it is so early...Dude could implode like Kamala or Rubio in a debate...We don't know)
19 months is a long time though, a little bank failure here, some layoffs there, a spiking UE, inflation stays high, a quagmire war going on too long, enough of people in WI/PA having their kids tell them I wanna cut off my
, maybe your cousin gets fucked up by some inner city crime wave...before ya know it ya man Teflon Donny T the GOAT God amongst men is back wearin the stripes and we're all saying its his world and we just live in it.
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Do I believe most Democrats will feel he's not a threat to democracy? Yeah, of course. Most people can't stand him because of the dumb shit he says, how he talks, and that he's clearly an under-qualified ego-manic.
Most reasonable people know a president can't "ruin democracy", whatever that means lol
I'd personally drop the tranny fear mongering and cultural war issues ...The party hasn't done shit since it took the house... besides investigations.I agree Generic Republican X is more electable than Trump, that wasn't the discussion though.
19 months is a long time though, a little bank failure here, some layoffs there, a spiking UE, a quagmire war going on too long, enough of people in WI/PA having their kids tell them I wanna cut off my
before ya know it ya man Teflon Donny T the GOAT God amongst men is back wearin the stripes and we're all saying its his world and we just live in it.
no....it's a pretty weak white collar crime case in reality..I'm surprised they brought it at all.
yeah, this is wrong. Most democrats think he is a threat to democracy obviously. Especially after not accepting election results and Jan 6th. This was the #1 message the Dems ran on in the primary (along with abortion I guess)
Saying threat vs ruin is playing fast with words, but whatever.
Remember this conversation though, because if a year from now it is looking like he is the nominee, "HE IS A THREAT TO DEMOCRACY" is all you're going to hear from the people you say don't believe it.
If Trump was a threat to democracy he would be president right now...
He had a HUGE microphone for his belly aching. That was about it. The capital riot just made me laugh of how stupid a select minority fraction of this country are....
In the end he left like everyone else that ever lost an election in modern times in this country.
Where have I heard that before? That phrase fell so hard people had to make up something called "Russiagate", remember that? crazy times
We'll see, no opinion on the horse race yet. Too far out.
GM/McD/Google all announced layoffs in the last week, bank failures last month, inflation going nowhere, fuel costs going up....You tip into recession and someone off this board might be able to get elected with an R next to their name.
You gonna throw down on Trump again this cycle...and @crudebar will you be ready cash those bets again in 2024?
It's an easy message to echo in the media to fear monger, but no I don't think that's right
I interact with mostly Dems and I don't know a single one that actually thought he was a threat because of January 6, or that he's a threat to "destroy the country" in general. The whole thing was just a ridiculous, but you think we thought that something consequential was gonna actually develop from that, other than some psychotic assholes from bumble-fuck West Virginia getting prison time? Come on lol
