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If you need to know, no, I stopped living at my parents' house about 13 years ago and have made my own way since, thanks for asking.

Why don't you write something relevant, for example finally tell us what special connection there is between Obama and Caterpillar. Or just answer my question about where I was hypocritical. If, as you say, this place is littered with my hypocrisy it shouldn't be hard for you to find and explain an example, right?

Nope, sorry Preussen, no proof, no belief. You just can't throw that out there without proof and expect me to just believe it, do YOU now?

I did write something relevant when I told you to stop making me the excuse for your lack of knowledge. Like I said, if you DO care, go teach yourself; if you don't, go do something else to yourself. Just stop asking ME to do the things YOU should have done BEFORE getting involved.
 

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Nope, sorry Preussen, no proof, no belief. You just can't throw that out there without proof and expect me to just believe it, do YOU now?
Perfectly true. Which is why I believe that making claims about one's real life in order to make a point, like you did in that other thread, is totally stupid.


I did write something relevant when I told you to stop making me the excuse for your lack of knowledge. Like I said, if you DO care, go teach yourself; if you don't, go do something else to yourself. Just stop asking ME to do the things YOU should have done BEFORE getting involved.

As I have pointed out ad nauseum, this is total nonsense, and you know it, but you keep repeating it over and over again because obviously you have nothing relevant to say. This is boring.
 

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Nope, sorry Preussen, no proof, no belief. You just can't throw that out there without proof and expect me to just believe it, do YOU now?
Perfectly true. Which is why I believe that making claims about one's real life in order to make a point, like you did in that other thread, is totally stupid.

As I have pointed out ad nauseum, this is total nonsense, and you know it, but you keep repeating it over and over again because obviously you have nothing relevant to say. This is boring.

It may be boring for you, but I quite enjoy watching you confirm your own hypocrisy post after post, so by all means, carry on.
 

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It may be boring for you, but I quite enjoy watching you confirm your own hypocrisy post after post, so by all means, carry on.

You really enjoy this discussion? Your mindset must be even stranger than I thought.
And I challenge you, again, to show me where I was hypocritical. Just one example will suffice. But I won't hold my breath, general assertions seem to be all you are capable of. I guess you are unwilling to "teach me" in this instance, too, I'm supposed to "educate myself" to recognise a hypocrisy only you can see, right? :)
 

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You really enjoy this discussion? Your mindset must be even stranger than I thought.
And I challenge you, again, to show me where I was hypocritical. Just one example will suffice. But I won't hold my breath, general assertions seem to be all you are capable of. I guess you are unwilling to "teach me" in this instance, too, I'm supposed to "educate myself" to recognise a hypocrisy only you can see, right? :)

see posts 31, 36, 38, 40 and 43. Then search "interplanetary math", that would be another good starting point for you. When you're done there, search "today is not that day", another gem. Maybe today IS your day? But we all know better. That's just off of the top of my head, there are another dozen you scampered away from that I could care less about. I have to go, V-Day and all that, but you do your best at keeping this title on the front page and I'll do the same on Monday!
 

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see posts 31, 36, 38, 40 and 43. Then search "interplanetary math", that would be another good starting point for you. When you're done there, search "today is not that day", another gem. Maybe today IS your day? But we all know better. That's just off of the top of my head, there are another dozen you scampered away from that I could care less about. I have to go, V-Day and all that, but you do your best at keeping this title on the front page and I'll do the same on Monday!

Really, you are unbelievable. The gist of your post is "Preussen, you have made posts in this and other threads", which is absolutely true but hardly has any significant meaning, I'm afraid. Of course, this fits perfectly with your theme of making assertions but invariable refuse to give substance to them...
 

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Preussen See post 35 and its ok Ive been accused of living with my parents too I think its the best thing that he can come up with and he is retired and rich and you are not blah blah and he is highly educated and bets you dont have a college degree...blah blah

then he makes no sense with his arguments...

the truth is probably that he lives with his parents and is a high school drop out.. LOL!
 

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For those too lazy to read through the whole, very, ahem, interesting conversation between Bilbal and me, here a summary of the posts:


P: Contrary to the representations in the first posts of this thread, Caterpillar's CEO did not say the stimulus package will not help Caterpillar, all he said is that it may take a year to kick in.

B: You missed something important concerning the connection between Obama and Caterpillar/Jim Owen.

P: Tell us what you mean.

B: I would like people to find out by themselves with Google and Wikipedia.

P: I tried and came up empty. Could you be more specific?

B: Educate yourself!

P: It's nonsense to claim I missed something and then refuse to tell me what it is.

B: Your lack of knowledge is not my problem.

P: So far you have only asserted that I lack knowledge.

B: You know exactly what I'm talking about.

P: No, I don't, and why should I?

B: Why should I waste my time explaining it to you?

P: Because you were the one who implied that my original point was missing something. You can't just assert I'm wrong but refuse to explain why.

B: You do this, too. You are a hypocrite.

P: Where did I do such a thing?

B: The place is littered with your unwitting hypocrisy.

P: Give me an example. And say something relevant about the connection between Obama and Caterpillar.

B: [Ignoring the request for an example of the alleged hypocrisy] I did say something relevant when I told you to educate yourself.

P: That's nonsense.

B: I enjoy watching you confirm your hypocrisy post after post.

P: I challenge you again to give just one example of where I was hypocritical.

B: You made several posts in this and other threads.


Reading this conversation it is obvious that I got something totally wrong, and that was my decision to try and have a rational discussion with Bilbal despite my previous experiences with him.
 

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For those too lazy to read through the whole, very, ahem, interesting conversation between Bilbal and me, here a summary of the posts:


P: Contrary to the representations in the first posts of this thread, Caterpillar's CEO did not say the stimulus package will not help Caterpillar, all he said is that it may take a year to kick in.

B: You missed something important concerning the connection between Obama and Caterpillar/Jim Owen.

P: Tell us what you mean.

B: I would like people to find out by themselves with Google and Wikipedia.

P: I tried and came up empty. Could you be more specific?

B: Educate yourself!

P: It's nonsense to claim I missed something and then refuse to tell me what it is.

B: Your lack of knowledge is not my problem.

P: So far you have only asserted that I lack knowledge.

B: You know exactly what I'm talking about.

P: No, I don't, and why should I?

B: Why should I waste my time explaining it to you?

P: Because you were the one who implied that my original point was missing something. You can't just assert I'm wrong but refuse to explain why.

B: You do this, too. You are a hypocrite.

P: Where did I do such a thing?

B: The place is littered with your unwitting hypocrisy.

P: Give me an example. And say something relevant about the connection between Obama and Caterpillar.

B: [Ignoring the request for an example of the alleged hypocrisy] I did say something relevant when I told you to educate yourself.

P: That's nonsense.

B: I enjoy watching you confirm your hypocrisy post after post.

P: I challenge you again to give just one example of where I was hypocritical.

B: You made several posts in this and other threads.


Reading this conversation it is obvious that I got something totally wrong, and that was my decision to try and have a rational discussion with Bilbal despite my previous experiences with him.

I'll take a stab here.I think they are implying that if the stimulus package goes thru with all the spending for infrastructure that Caterpillar would benefit greatly since they make most of the equipment that they would use to build the roads and such.[Hence the Obama and Cat reference] The CEO of John Deere should have also whored his company out too.
 

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I'll take a stab here.I think they are implying that if the stimulus package goes thru with all the spending for infrastructure that Caterpillar would benefit greatly since they make most of the equipment that they would use to build the roads and such.[Hence the Obama and Cat reference]

Isn't this exactly what the stimulus bill is intended to provide, benefits for companies in order to jump-start the economy?
 

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Reading this conversation it is obvious that I got something totally wrong, and that was my decision to try and have a rational discussion with Bilbal despite my previous experiences with him.

Through all of your childish smoke and mirrors routines, my offer remains.
 

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Preussen See post 35 and its ok Ive been accused of living with my parents too I think its the best thing that he can come up with and he is retired and rich and you are not blah blah and he is highly educated and bets you dont have a college degree...blah blah

then he makes no sense with his arguments...

the truth is probably that he lives with his parents and is a high school drop out.. LOL!

Sweetlou, why don't you man up and come visit me? Bring a check for $3,000 made out to my kids' college funds and you can come live a day in my life.

Come peruse my education records and diplomas, call them yourself for verification. Meet my kids, meet their nanny, meet my wealth advisers, view the deeds to my properties, meet my tenants, meet the farmer who raises our milk and beef supply, keep some real milk and beef for yourself.

Bring an extra $500 cash and I'll show you the contents of my safe deposit box, then you can stick your $500 in there and I can send your stunned ass back home.

How long will that take you to save up by flipping burgers and cleaning shitters?

Why $3,000? Because YOUR talk is cheap, not mine.
 

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Through all of your childish smoke and mirrors routines, my offer remains.

What childish smoke and mirror routines? And more importantly, what offer??

My opinion stands. The only informations you have offered in this thread are about your supposed financial success which is totally unverifiable, as you well know and perhaps count on. Unless you start to bring something relevant this discussion I see no sense in continuing it.
 

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What childish smoke and mirror routines? And more importantly, what offer??

My opinion stands. The only informations you have offered in this thread are about your supposed financial success which is totally unverifiable, as you well know and perhaps count on. Unless you start to bring something relevant this discussion I see no sense in continuing it.

And even though you see no sense in it, you will continue. What does that make you?

My offer to you stands, my offer to lou stands.
 

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And predictably there is the assertion of hypocrisy again from the guy who is unable to describe one example of it.

Btw what is so difficult to answer my simple question about what offer you mean? I just don't see where you have ever offered me something.
 

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Here's an example for you:

Preussen: "Unless you start to bring something relevant this discussion I see no sense in continuing it"

I purposefully bring NOTHING relevant to the conversation so I can watch you respond like Pavlov's dog.

Imagine how much smarter you might look if you spent just one quarter of the time finding a decent counter argument instead of the full time whining at me to find it for you.
 

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Here's an example for you:

Preussen: "Unless you start to bring something relevant this discussion I see no sense in continuing it"

Erm, Bilbal, are you certain that you know what hypocrisy means?

I purposefully bring NOTHING relevant to the conversation so I can watch you respond like Pavlov's dog.

In case you haven't noticed, all I'm still doing in this thread is to show how ridiculous you are. And now you even admit to behaving like a troll. You are making it too easy.

Imagine how much smarter you might look if you spent just one quarter of the time finding a decent counter argument instead of the full time whining at me to find it for you.

Perhaps you honestly believe that this sounds sensible, but it obviously isn't.
I don't know about you, but whenever I state an opinion and no-one replies with any argument that might make me reconsider my opinion then I see absolutely no reason in doing research with the goal of finding some counter argument.
Also, I never whined at you to find something for me. All I'm saying is that I simply disregard your hint that my opinion might be wrong because you are unable to back it up in any way.

And I can't fail to notice that you still haven't told me what your offer is. :)
 

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