If true, the company will pay through the nose before the lawyers are done with them and then they will find insurance next to impossible to find and impossible to afford.
Yes 36 years is ridiculous. We are a reactionary group and want blood but in a few years most will consider this punishment extreme.
An Irish-American guy here was drunk driving and killed four people and seriously injured several others, like 8 years ago. He fled to Ireland and started a new life. They finally caught him and he was given only around 12 years in jail, and I believe he is eligible for early release two years before then.
This is a guy who was obviously in the wrong, speeding and drunk driving, driving on the wrong side of a two lane highway. He showed no regard for anybody, and refused to take a blood test at the hospital, and disappeared after that (police originally didn't realize he was drunk, but people at a party that he was at all testified that he was).
And this guy gets 36 years for at the most reckless driving?! He wasn't drunk, and he tried to save the people by laying his life on the line. And he gets three times the time as someone who was just the opposite.
Unreal!
This is a guy who was obviously in the wrong, speeding and drunk driving, driving on the wrong side of a two lane highway. He showed no regard for anybody, and refused to take a blood test at the hospital, and disappeared after that (police originally didn't realize he was drunk, but people at a party that he was at all testified that he was).
And this guy gets 36 years for at the most reckless driving?! He wasn't drunk, and he tried to save the people by laying his life on the line. And he gets three times the time as someone who was just the opposite.
Unreal!
anyone who says our justice system is fair isn't paying attention.
and that poor guy. Yes he killed four people and yes he should have gotten in trouble but 36 yrs is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of in my life...guy was doing his job and trying to make a living. People die in car accidents all the time...no one goes to jail (unless they were drunk) If he wasn't carrying gasoline and there wasn't a huge explosion Im sure it wouldnt have been such a huge deal. What if he was carrying toilet paper and the four people still died?? Poor guy...
and that poor guy. Yes he killed four people and yes he should have gotten in trouble but 36 yrs is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard of in my life...guy was doing his job and trying to make a living. People die in car accidents all the time...no one goes to jail (unless they were drunk) If he wasn't carrying gasoline and there wasn't a huge explosion Im sure it wouldnt have been such a huge deal. What if he was carrying toilet paper and the four people still died?? Poor guy...
Maybe if this guy was little more white and a law enforcement officer instead of a brown skinned truck driver, he might have got a less harsh sentence
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From 2002 in the same area of South Florida
http://www.nbc6.net/news/1808698/detail.html
OUTRAGE CONTINUES OVER FARRALL VERDICT
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Members of South Florida's black community were expressing outrage over Monday's split verdict in the trial of former FBI agent David Farrall.
Farrall, 39, was acquitted of felony DUI manslaughter and vehicular homicide in connection with a wrong-way wreck that killed two South Florida men. Farrall was convicted on lesser charges of driving under the influence of alcohol and reckless driving in the crash that killed half-brothers Maurice Williams, a 23-year-old youth minister, and Craig Chambers, 19, a college student. The two were on their way from church choir practice to Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton when the Honda Accord driven by Farrall slammed into their smaller Kia.
The jury found that Farrall was driving drunk. But after the trial, jurors said they were unable to determine whether it was Farrall or the victims who were driving the wrong way on Interstate 95 on the night of the November 1999 crash. But that decision, made by an all-white jury in a case involving two black victims, came under fire Tuesday. The case has been mired in controversy from the beginning.
The Florida Highway Patrol, which investigated the crash, initially blamed the brothers, saying it was they, and not Farrall, who were traveling the wrong direction when the crash occurred. That prompted cries of favoritism from critics who pointed out that the victims in the case were black civilians, while Farrall, who is white, was a law enforcement officer. Farrall, who was dismissed from the bureau's Miami office following the incident, has maintained that he was not drunk, and that he was traveling in the right direction on the night of the crash.
The FHP later retracted its initial finding and apologized to the victims' family. In their final report, the FHP found that Farrall, formerly an agent in the was driving south in the northbound lanes of the interstate with his lights off. The verdict has reopened the wound for the family, which said on Monday that they had lost faith in their ability to find justice in the case. Despite their disappointment, a lawyer for the family says they will revisit the case in civil court and are suing the FBI, the Florida Highway Patrol and the bar where Farrall was drinking. Attorney Levi Williams cited the O.J. Simpson civil case as a precedent for the lawsuit. Miami attorney W. George Allen echoed the sentiments of the family and many in South Florida's black and Caribbean communities Tuesday, calling the verdict "a miscarriage of justice," and adding: "I really believed that gentleman was at fault." The brothers were originally from Jamaica. Jurors who spoke to the media on Tuesday expressed sympathy for the family.
Juror Richard Deberardinis said that after the verdict was read, "I know the first thing I wanted to do was to give the mother a hug ... I see it as my mother losing me." And as he left the courtroom, freed without bond Monday, Farrall also expressed sympathy for the family, telling NBC 6: "It hasn't been reported much in the papers but I spent most of my life tyring to help save peole's lives ... it's sad for everyone." And in a message to the victims' relatives, he added, "Hopefully, they'll find some peace and comfort. My heart and prayers go out to them." But the family said they take no comfort in either the jurors' or Farrall's words.
"He gets to go home and have Thanksgiving dinner with his family. Where's my sons?" the victims' mother, Florence Thompson said following the verdict. Deberardinis said he wanted to convict Farrall of DUI manslaughter, but the evidence wasn't clear enough. And he said FHP botched the case. Don Bowen of the Miami Urban League said he hoped that the race of the jurors and defendant didn't play a part in the jury's decision. "I would hope that (race) didn't (affect the case), Bowen told NBC 6. "I don't have any reason to think that it would." But veteran Fort Lauderdale attorney George Allen disagreed. "Of course it mattered!" Allen said of the race of the parties involved in the case. But Bowen insisted that the case reflected little more than the ebb and flow of the criminal justice system. "I think what happened transcended race and I think it was just reflective of the system of justice that we have. Sometimes innocent people, or in this case, guilty people are found innocent," Bowen said.
Both Allen and Bowen said Farrall's lawyer was able to use a confusing FHP investigation to create reasonable doubt for the jury. "Good defense attorneys may be able to muddy the waters enough that they're able to get people off," Bowen said. "I don't personally respect that. I don't know how David Farrall and his attorney can live with themselves." Farrall's defense questioned the results of the blood alcohol test given to the former FBI agent on the night of the crash and measuring his blood alcohol level at 0.14 percent, saying the Breathalyzer machine was faulty. The legal blood alcohol limit is .08 percent. The defense also maintained, as Farrall did when he took the stand, that despite the FHP's reversals, it was Williams and Chambers who were going the wrong way.
Despite his outrage at the verdict, Allen said of the defense's tactics in the case: if he were Farrall's lawyer, "I would've done it the same way." And as to the makeup of the jury, Allen said the rules don't allow lawyers to block people just because of race. But he said there are ways to get around the rules and lawyers do it all the time. The victims' family has raised the race of the jurors as a factor in the case, along with what they call a poor job of presenting the case by prosecutors. Juror Deberardinis said the jury's racial makeup wasn't a factor in their verdict -- the botched FHP investigation was.
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From 2002 in the same area of South Florida
http://www.nbc6.net/news/1808698/detail.html
OUTRAGE CONTINUES OVER FARRALL VERDICT
FORT LAUDERDALE, Fla. -- Members of South Florida's black community were expressing outrage over Monday's split verdict in the trial of former FBI agent David Farrall.
Farrall, 39, was acquitted of felony DUI manslaughter and vehicular homicide in connection with a wrong-way wreck that killed two South Florida men. Farrall was convicted on lesser charges of driving under the influence of alcohol and reckless driving in the crash that killed half-brothers Maurice Williams, a 23-year-old youth minister, and Craig Chambers, 19, a college student. The two were on their way from church choir practice to Florida Atlantic University in Boca Raton when the Honda Accord driven by Farrall slammed into their smaller Kia.
The jury found that Farrall was driving drunk. But after the trial, jurors said they were unable to determine whether it was Farrall or the victims who were driving the wrong way on Interstate 95 on the night of the November 1999 crash. But that decision, made by an all-white jury in a case involving two black victims, came under fire Tuesday. The case has been mired in controversy from the beginning.
The Florida Highway Patrol, which investigated the crash, initially blamed the brothers, saying it was they, and not Farrall, who were traveling the wrong direction when the crash occurred. That prompted cries of favoritism from critics who pointed out that the victims in the case were black civilians, while Farrall, who is white, was a law enforcement officer. Farrall, who was dismissed from the bureau's Miami office following the incident, has maintained that he was not drunk, and that he was traveling in the right direction on the night of the crash.
The FHP later retracted its initial finding and apologized to the victims' family. In their final report, the FHP found that Farrall, formerly an agent in the was driving south in the northbound lanes of the interstate with his lights off. The verdict has reopened the wound for the family, which said on Monday that they had lost faith in their ability to find justice in the case. Despite their disappointment, a lawyer for the family says they will revisit the case in civil court and are suing the FBI, the Florida Highway Patrol and the bar where Farrall was drinking. Attorney Levi Williams cited the O.J. Simpson civil case as a precedent for the lawsuit. Miami attorney W. George Allen echoed the sentiments of the family and many in South Florida's black and Caribbean communities Tuesday, calling the verdict "a miscarriage of justice," and adding: "I really believed that gentleman was at fault." The brothers were originally from Jamaica. Jurors who spoke to the media on Tuesday expressed sympathy for the family.
Juror Richard Deberardinis said that after the verdict was read, "I know the first thing I wanted to do was to give the mother a hug ... I see it as my mother losing me." And as he left the courtroom, freed without bond Monday, Farrall also expressed sympathy for the family, telling NBC 6: "It hasn't been reported much in the papers but I spent most of my life tyring to help save peole's lives ... it's sad for everyone." And in a message to the victims' relatives, he added, "Hopefully, they'll find some peace and comfort. My heart and prayers go out to them." But the family said they take no comfort in either the jurors' or Farrall's words.
"He gets to go home and have Thanksgiving dinner with his family. Where's my sons?" the victims' mother, Florence Thompson said following the verdict. Deberardinis said he wanted to convict Farrall of DUI manslaughter, but the evidence wasn't clear enough. And he said FHP botched the case. Don Bowen of the Miami Urban League said he hoped that the race of the jurors and defendant didn't play a part in the jury's decision. "I would hope that (race) didn't (affect the case), Bowen told NBC 6. "I don't have any reason to think that it would." But veteran Fort Lauderdale attorney George Allen disagreed. "Of course it mattered!" Allen said of the race of the parties involved in the case. But Bowen insisted that the case reflected little more than the ebb and flow of the criminal justice system. "I think what happened transcended race and I think it was just reflective of the system of justice that we have. Sometimes innocent people, or in this case, guilty people are found innocent," Bowen said.
Both Allen and Bowen said Farrall's lawyer was able to use a confusing FHP investigation to create reasonable doubt for the jury. "Good defense attorneys may be able to muddy the waters enough that they're able to get people off," Bowen said. "I don't personally respect that. I don't know how David Farrall and his attorney can live with themselves." Farrall's defense questioned the results of the blood alcohol test given to the former FBI agent on the night of the crash and measuring his blood alcohol level at 0.14 percent, saying the Breathalyzer machine was faulty. The legal blood alcohol limit is .08 percent. The defense also maintained, as Farrall did when he took the stand, that despite the FHP's reversals, it was Williams and Chambers who were going the wrong way.
Despite his outrage at the verdict, Allen said of the defense's tactics in the case: if he were Farrall's lawyer, "I would've done it the same way." And as to the makeup of the jury, Allen said the rules don't allow lawyers to block people just because of race. But he said there are ways to get around the rules and lawyers do it all the time. The victims' family has raised the race of the jurors as a factor in the case, along with what they call a poor job of presenting the case by prosecutors. Juror Deberardinis said the jury's racial makeup wasn't a factor in their verdict -- the botched FHP investigation was.
At first I really wanted to say the sentence was a joke but after reading he's received 10 violations while driving a friggin gas tanker I don't feel bad about this at all. He tried cutting someone off and killed them in the process and it was far from the first time it's happened it seems. I don't feel bad for him at all.
No excuse for driving 25 mph over the speed limit with that type of cargo. Also, as Jake T said, he has had 10 other driving offenses. He isn't innocent. It sounds like he's a sociopathic scumbag who is sorry he's in prison, not because he killed innocent people. What type of humane person drives like that with flammable cargo?
Hate to break it to you dip**it your country goes the way our country goes.ope:
I'd agree that Canada has to go with USA in stuff like a potential WW#3, the really big one ! USA does have much greater WMD capability than Canada, and a common language. Canada has no choice, but to side with USA, for mutual interests.
Doug would rather be Canadian, than American... BC/ Vancouver, in particular.
This is the reason why everybody hates America. Finding a scapegoat for everything. FUCK THAT!!!! Call me old school but when you drive a truck and fucken kill someone, ITS YOUR FUCKEN FAULT. Why dont they go after his parents for bringing him to this world? Why dont they go after the truck builder for allowing the truck to flip? Why dont they go after the state for not revoking his license after his 2nd traffic violation? Fucken frivilious lawsuits up the a-hole cause of fucking people who cant be accountable for their own action and those who support them.
Its called responsbility and accountablity. He fucken drove the truck. He crashed the fucken truck. He killed 4 people. His company could have offered him everything to meet a deadline but its in his best interest not to crash the fucken truck and kill people.
Its the same people who thinks all kid games should end in a tie and all kids should get throphies. Fuck you to all those fuckers. There are winners and losers. Deal with it. Bunch of whiny ass people. Its not fair - wahhhhh wahhhhh. Go play in traffic.
Ever think why kids cant deal with failures anymore? Cause they were brought up to think everything is fair and everyone is a winner. And if you cant have it your way, whine to mom and dad and they'll do the bitching for you. FUCKEN BS. America, wake the f up. Slap your son if he whines about not how the other kids wont let him play. Punch that bama in the mouth if he finished last and wants a throphy. Fuck him up, if he's 12 and thinks everything is unfair and he wants that puppy.
I was just about to post the EXACT same thing. We have a problem in this country of not holding people accountable for their actions. This guy is a grade A piece of shit. If you CHOOSE a profession where you are driving a fuel tanker, you have to be a mature adult and not drive recklessly. Period. No exceptions.
And the guy already had TEN driving violations yet he continues to drive recklessly??? Yeah, he sounds like a real sweetie. Hopefully he dies in prison before he gets out, but that probably won't happen. I'm still looking for option #5 on the poll:
- Put a bullet in his head
