Does Jeff Bagwell deserve to get into the hall of fame??

[TomGshotput]

Damn your good !

Not really. He even provided the link and still couldn't count up to six: the number of seasons Larkin missed 13 games or fewer, in baseball that definitely has to count as full seasons. Plus another three seasons he played in over 140 games and another. That's not far off Sandberg and the guy does deserve credit for the 1/2 to 3/4 years where he was still very good. I would vote for him, but don't see him as being as much of an oversight as Raines or Bagwell. I see Larkin as having a better career than Sandberg and Trammell, but sure it's close enough that a reasonable case could be made for either of them being better

Larkin did lead the league in MVP votes one year. Which is one time more than Trammell led the league in anything

(also according to baseballreference, Petry had about the same ratio of groundballs to flyballs in 1983 as he did in 1982

 

[billhill999]

Larkin played 4 seasons where he played in 150 more games, my standard for a full season.
Never led the league in anything.
Not Hall worthy.
Never claimed Trammell was Hall worthy, but was part of one of the greatest up the middle tandems that ever lived.

 

[TomGshotput]

He played 110 out of 114 games in 1994. To actually use that against him as falling short of some made up standard is just being a twit

(Ted Williams only four full time seasons too, according to your silliness)

(It actually is a fair argument to say that Larkin had too little playing time, but at least do it with a sense of sincerity and give him credit for the over 2 000 games he did play)

 

[Hookandcrook+]

Who?

 

[Jstack34]

After looking at all the stats from this thread, got to say he should be in

 

[djzenn]

An interesting discussion. I decided to check how Bagwell stacks up against the other Hall 0f Fame first basemen who played at least part of their career during my lifetime (I was born in 1963): Stan Musial, Harmon Killebrew, Orlando Cepeda, Willie McCovey, Tony Perez, Rod Carew (he started and played more games at 1B than 2B), and Eddie Murray.

Only Murray and Musial scored more runs. Killebrew, McCovey, Murray, and Musial hit more home runs. Everyone but Cepeda and Carew hit more RBIs. Only Musial and Carew had a higher career batting average. He looks pretty good in this regard. One reason he is not higher is almost all of these guys played longer. He finishes seventh in games played and plate appearances (ahead of only Cepeda) and eighth in at-bats. Murrays number in this regard are one-third higher across the board.

Looking at other numbers Bagwell deserves entry beyond a shadow of a doubt. His average 162 game season is 114 (R) 34 (HR) and 115 (RBI). From the group only Killebrew is higher in any category with 38 HRs. When your average season in terms of Runs, HRs, and RBIs is better than Stan Musial's I don't think there should be any question that you belong in the Hall of Fame. Bagwell's lifetime OBP is .408, Slugging % is .540, and OPS is .948. He is second in each category only to Musial.

Here is how he ranks all-time in each category: 62nd (Runs), 34th (HR), 45th (RBI), 251st (BA), 40th (OBP), 35th (SLG %), and 21st (OPS). Considering that there 154 everyday former Major League players in the Hall of Fame I think Bagwell clearly deserves a place.

 

[5teamparlay]

Congrats Jeff!!!

 

[aclv1]

I am still undecided about how I feel about him being elected but congrats to him .

 

[texansfan]

Welcome to the HOF Jeff Bagwell!