Does Jeff Bagwell deserve to get into the hall of fame??

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Does Jeff Bagwell deserve to get into the hall of fame??


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Did he ever get a meaningful Postseason hit ?

If 100 postseason atbats trumped 10 000 regular season ones, Bagwell could only be seen as a horrible player

The Hall-of-Fame has never been about looking at such a small part of a players career; it has always been about looking at the entirety of his career. And for an entire 2 000 games, Bagwell was one of the very best players
 

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He'll get in easily, possibly the year Biggio gets elected in his first year.
 

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If 100 postseason atbats trumped 10 000 regular season ones, Bagwell could only be seen as a horrible player

The Hall-of-Fame has never been about looking at such a small part of a players career; it has always been about looking at the entirety of his career. And for an entire 2 000 games, Bagwell was one of the very best players

How are you only elected to 4 all star teams if you were the best at your position in your era ? Isn't there like 3 1st baseman on each squad each year ! one of the best maybe, no way one of the greatest which is what your looking for in a HOF career. He doesn't have it ! The fact that he only got 41% backs my argument
 

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This is a really tough call. W/ his numbers he certainly should be in....but we all know how baseball HOF voter's are. They make people who should be first ballot wait 2 or more years. Hell, some players get in on their last shot at the hall.

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How are you only elected to 4 all star teams if you were the best at your position in your era ? Isn't there like 3 1st baseman on each squad each year !

Not always. In 1998 when McGwire hit 70 homeruns, he was the starter and Galarraga was the only other NL firstbaseman. When the season was over, after adjusting for the fact that one played in Colorado and the other played in the Astrodome, their success when hitting the baseball was extremely close

In 1995 it was only McGriff and Mark Grace. By the end of the season, neither really did any better than Bagwell

In 1993 the NL All-Star firstbaseman were Galarraga, John Kruk and Greg Jeffries. Again, Bagwell was just as good as all three

Same thing again in 2000

The fact that he only got 41% backs the argument that the sports writers are idiots
 

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The fact that he only got 41% backs the argument that the sports writers are idiots

Big time idiots, electing Blyleven creates a giant shit storm.
Now, Moose is a lock, right? I mean compare Moose to Bert.
Same applies to Morris, if Bert, why not Jack?

Idiots indeed.
 

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Morris is not even close to Blyleven

Blyleven was by far the best eligible pitcher not already in the Hall-of-Fame, thus a deserving choice

Mussina is not a lock. Schilling will be the real test for him. Both of those guys are far ahead of Morris. Just as Bagwell didn't play on championship teams because of who his teammates were, check out both hitting and fielding stats from the Tigers during the 80s. While Bagwell's career OPS compared to the league was one of the very best in history, Morris career ERA was barely better than the rest of the league
 

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I was just making a point.
Point being, Moose , oh never mind.................
 

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Not always. In 1998 when McGwire hit 70 homeruns, he was the starter and Galarraga was the only other NL firstbaseman. When the season was over, after adjusting for the fact that one played in Colorado and the other played in the Astrodome, their success when hitting the baseball was extremely close

In 1995 it was only McGriff and Mark Grace. By the end of the season, neither really did any better than Bagwell


In 1993 the NL All-Star firstbaseman were Galarraga, John Kruk and Greg Jeffries. Again, Bagwell was just as good as all three

Same thing again in 2000

The fact that he only got 41% backs the argument that the sports writers are idiots

Whether you have 2 or 3 1st baseman on the team, being only elected 4 times is a joke if he is a suppose to be a HOF player. I guess the voters and the manager are idiots too for not naming him on the squad each year. Next year when he is left off again the whole world will be a bunch of idiots. The fact that your naming Galarraga, John Kruk and Greg Jeffries on the team ahead of Bagwell doesn't support your argument
 

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I suppose you would have no problem with your daughter hanging with OJ then

Don't argue with him, trust me, you'll win every time, but you'll lose.

I got a problem with Blyleven, who is nothing more than 14-12 type pitcher.
Tommy John was the same way.

Moose's career numbers are head and shoulders better than both of them.

Show me one, just ONE, HoF season.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/blylebe01.shtml

THIS is a HoF resume

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mussimi01.shtml
 

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Don't argue with him, trust me, you'll win every time, but you'll lose.

I got a problem with Blyleven, who is nothing more than 14-12 type pitcher.
Tommy John was the same way.

Moose's career numbers are head and shoulders better than both of them.

Show me one, just ONE, HoF season.

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/b/blylebe01.shtml

THIS is a HoF resume

http://www.baseball-reference.com/players/m/mussimi01.shtml

I don't have an opinion about Byleven that is strong either way. But the way the poll is going here on the RX, the majority of us will be idiots too
 

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