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Should we Ban Doc Mercer?

  • Ban Doc Mercer Indefinitely.

    Votes: 87 54.7%
  • Allow Doc Mercer to continue to post indefinitely.

    Votes: 72 45.3%

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teazeman said:
yes or no?

Doc started a thread announcing his departure, yes. He has done this at least four other times that I can recall, only to be back within a couple of days, back to the same habits. Maybe this time is different, who knows? I'm not holding my breath.
 

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"That last poll was started by a poster, not a moderator. It has no bearing on this decision."

Actually it was started by a poster at the suggestion of a moderator, Wilhelm. So it was officially sanctioned. This issue doesn't make the poll less valid.

I hope, Xpanda, that my holding a different view doesn't necessarily mean that I don't have a clue or that I too am a "butbuddy" of Doc.
 

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Doc really needs his own blog because a forum isn't the best venue for him to speak his views. He doesn't care at all for any debate, he just likes to say what he thinks. We came close to having a discussion about free trade but all he could respond was "these are interesting times" and "George Bush is fucking us over."
 

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Wildbill: Nothing...he did it the last time he was kicked out.

As far as "new" ideas that Doc might concede to......

All of these suggetsion have all been mentioned before:
1 week suspension.....same Doc returns
2 week suspension.....same Doc returns
banned then somehow for some reason reinstated....same Doc returns

5 thread maxes.....I agreed before was a great idea and stated I could swing it but Doc could not seem to think that was acceptable.

When the RX inexplicably reinstated Doc b/c some folks complained and threatened to leave I accepted the fact that the RX had some alterior motives for keeping the guy and moved on.All I asked (politely I may add) for days and days after his return was for the pig to stay out of threads I start and Id reciprocate.He wouldnt even make that concession.

Its clear some the guys piping in dont have a full exposure of the antics of Doc.D2 wonders why BB isnt banned for for using Doc name and calling out a MORONIC post.Certainly Doc would never start a flaming thread with a posters name in it,right? Its got nothing to do with his politics and everything to do with his being a childish nuisence who cant even abide by the simplest rules,keep his word in gentlemanly contests and make any concessions/compromise to make things run smoother (and with less drama) here.

Its not even a party line vote anymore....hes insulted and alienated some good folks who have been on his side.Their only mistaking asking Doc to calm down.

Honestly I have no problem jabbing back and forth with most of you....Doc has simply worn out his welcome IMO.
 

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davidbird said:
Actually it was started by a poster at the suggestion of a moderator, Wilhelm. So it was officially sanctioned. This issue doesn't make the poll less valid.

You're right. I'd forgotten that. At any rate, this poll came at the request of management, and is, to my knowledge, the only poll being considered.

I hope, Xpanda, that my holding a different view doesn't necessarily mean that I don't have a clue or that I too am a "butbuddy" of Doc.

Of course not. Not in my opinion, anyway. I've never used that terminology to describe Doc's supporters.

I suspect that your political views are much in line with my own, and so I, for one, will be happy to see you here. You are also, obviously, capable of fair and rational discussion, as evidenced in this thread. That's all we ask.
 

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You can count on losing many mor posters if doc is permanenty banned now.


xpanda said:
Which is precisely what this forum is for. Your level-headedness is appreciated, especially these days.



That last poll was started by a poster, not a moderator. It has no bearing on this decision.



I don't disagree with you necessarily. I've been paying far less attention to this forum since Doc's reinstatement (as have many many others) but it's clear that we lost a lot of quality and veteran posters (most of them not on the Right, fwiw) when Doc was reinstated. The emails we've received only confirm what we were worried about. Losing posters who have been regulars in this forum for many years over one guy is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. (Conversely, when Doc was last banned, we did not lose nearly as many veterans over it.)
 

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I don't trust Wil to accurately gauge posters political views. Not everyone falls into left or right or some other nonsense label.


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Also, fwiw, Wil can see who voted. Political views and such will be taken into consideration (as many on the right will vote him out as will posters on the left vote to keep him, purely for partisan reasons. That there are so many who agree with Doc politically, but still want him banned, will be a larger consideration.)
 

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Sorry, Xpanda. I somehow got Rightside's "get a clue" and "butbuddy" comment attributed to you. I should have known you were way to professional for that. My bad.
 

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nimue77 said:
You can count on losing many mor posters if doc is permanenty banned now.

Yes, we realise that. But we lost so so many (from both sides) when he was reinstated. The ratio of left v. right threads started in here since Doc's reinstatement is evidence of that. There has been very little debate in here since then, compared to before. I tend to think the fallout from losing Doc is far far less than the fallout from keeping him.
 

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nimue77 said:
I don't trust Wil to accurately gauge posters political views. Not everyone falls into left or right or some other nonsense label.

I know. But political views - and underlying motives relating to those views - will be considered.
 

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Ahhhhh....so this isn't about what doc is doing....it's about what happens as a result of him being banned or unbanned. Now I get it.


xpanda said:
Yes, we realise that. But we lost so so many (from both sides) when he was reinstated. The ratio of left v. right threads started in here since Doc's reinstatement is evidence of that. There has been very little debate in here since then, compared to before. I tend to think the fallout from losing Doc is far far less than the fallout from keeping him.
 

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nimue77 said:
Ahhhhh....so this isn't about what doc is doing....it's about what happens as a result of him being banned or unbanned. Now I get it.

What 'happens as a result of him being banned or unbanned' is the direct result of the things Doc does. His supporters like that he posts so much that he drowns out the others (in fairness, there are some who just find him funny). His detractors hate the spamming, flaming and hijacking.

So, if Doc stays, we lose those posters looking for a good debate without worrying about Doc hijacking their threads. If Doc goes, we lose those posters who think this is censorship, or who like the way Doc posts. There are more people - especially among the veterans - in the former group, than in the latter.
 

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Could we at least have some assurance that whatever the decision, that the rx will stand by it? I personally dont care for the way in which this has been handled by all involved, the rx should have stuck by wil and x the first time around. I am ready for the political forum to move on before others decide to leave as well.
 

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If "spamming, flaming or hijacking" is really such a problem than why has nothing been done to basehead for his raft of recent instances of such things. There are others I could mention too.


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What 'happens as a result of him being banned or unbanned' is the direct result of the things Doc does. His supporters like that he posts so much that he drowns out the others (in fairness, there are some who just find him funny). His detractors hate the spamming, flaming and hijacking.

So, if Doc stays, we lose those posters looking for a good debate without worrying about Doc hijacking their threads. If Doc goes, we lose those posters who think this is censorship, or who like the way Doc posts. There are more people - especially among the veterans - in the former group, than in the latter.
 

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nimue77 said:
If "spamming, flaming or hijacking" is really such a problem than why has nothing been done to basehead for his raft of recent instances of such things. There are others I could mention too.

Nim....youre attempts to compare me to spammie is causing you to lose any cred you may have left.

Show me some hijackings?....how about spam?....flame when flamed.
 

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Yeah, no kidding.

Base has not spammed 5% as often as Doc, nor has any other single poster.

Mostly because of Docs BS, this forum lately is more like a kindergarten than a place for informative discussion.

Cut his posts by 2/3 and it would again be tolerable if he stayed on topic and/or within his own threads.

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FD you shouldnt jump to conclusions w/ Doc........pedophiles arent necessarily gay.


Other than that I see nothing recent, but that doesn't mean your posts havn't been edited so I can't see instances. I have had threads spammed by you in the past. But how about this thread by bblight? Quite a flammable thread if you ask me.
http://forum.therx.com/showthread.ph...ghlight=mercer




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Nim....youre attempts to compare me to spammie is causing you to lose any cred you may have left.

Show me some hijackings?....how about spam?....flame when flamed.
 

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And Pat Patriot is guity of the same things - not to mention being admitting he is a hypocrate. Odd's that he is one of the posters that sent emails to the mods about doc mercer?

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Quote:
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Big november coming fraud boy....the goverment will be shutting you off soon ....no more freebies fuck face....ahahahahahaha!

No don't give credit to the US troops for anything right fraud boy because it hurts welfare party chances in November...right fraud boy spin your way out of this.....you just showed your vulgar vile fraud piece of scum shit that you are.

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Nimue77, when this admin. foolishly unbanned doc this is the type of board they wanted simply by letting him back.They took a direct shit on the moderators and basically said you can say anything you want to anybody anytime you want...so before you get your panties in bunch and whine about my post I just was mirroring what the moron does all the time.....How do YOU like it?....That is what the adminastration gave their blessing to...its completley in the rules....How do you like it??? ...Huh?
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nimue77 said:
If "spamming, flaming or hijacking" is really such a problem than why has nothing been done to basehead for his raft of recent instances of such things. There are others I could mention too.

Since Doc's reinstatement, the forum has been largely left unmoderated, save for one post moved by me at someone's request, and TRS being suspended for 3 days on RobFunk's decision. The spamming and flaming you see in here right now would be moved if the forum were still moderated.
 

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nimue77 said:
And Pat Patriot is guity of the same things - not to mention being admitting he is a hypocrate. Odd's that he is one of the posters that sent emails to the mods about doc mercer?

Quote:
<TABLE cellSpacing=0 cellPadding=6 width="100%" border=0><TBODY><TR><TD class=alt2 style="BORDER-RIGHT: 1px inset; BORDER-TOP: 1px inset; BORDER-LEFT: 1px inset; BORDER-BOTTOM: 1px inset">So this post is okay but doc should be banned?

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Big november coming fraud boy....the goverment will be shutting you off soon ....no more freebies fuck face....ahahahahahaha!

No don't give credit to the US troops for anything right fraud boy because it hurts welfare party chances in November...right fraud boy spin your way out of this.....you just showed your vulgar vile fraud piece of scum shit that you are.

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Nimue77, when this admin. foolishly unbanned doc this is the type of board they wanted simply by letting him back.They took a direct shit on the moderators and basically said you can say anything you want to anybody anytime you want...so before you get your panties in bunch and whine about my post I just was mirroring what the moron does all the time.....How do YOU like it?....That is what the adminastration gave their blessing to...its completley in the rules....How do you like it??? ...Huh?
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Yeah, don't you get it, anything untoward that Pat says is alright because doc has done it first. Oh, and nanny nanny boo boo. :happyass:
 

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