davidbird said:Actually it was started by a poster at the suggestion of a moderator, Wilhelm. So it was officially sanctioned. This issue doesn't make the poll less valid.
I hope, Xpanda, that my holding a different view doesn't necessarily mean that I don't have a clue or that I too am a "butbuddy" of Doc.
xpanda said:Which is precisely what this forum is for. Your level-headedness is appreciated, especially these days.
That last poll was started by a poster, not a moderator. It has no bearing on this decision.
I don't disagree with you necessarily. I've been paying far less attention to this forum since Doc's reinstatement (as have many many others) but it's clear that we lost a lot of quality and veteran posters (most of them not on the Right, fwiw) when Doc was reinstated. The emails we've received only confirm what we were worried about. Losing posters who have been regulars in this forum for many years over one guy is a serious problem that needs to be addressed. (Conversely, when Doc was last banned, we did not lose nearly as many veterans over it.)
xpanda said:Also, fwiw, Wil can see who voted. Political views and such will be taken into consideration (as many on the right will vote him out as will posters on the left vote to keep him, purely for partisan reasons. That there are so many who agree with Doc politically, but still want him banned, will be a larger consideration.)
nimue77 said:You can count on losing many mor posters if doc is permanenty banned now.
xpanda said:Yes, we realise that. But we lost so so many (from both sides) when he was reinstated. The ratio of left v. right threads started in here since Doc's reinstatement is evidence of that. There has been very little debate in here since then, compared to before. I tend to think the fallout from losing Doc is far far less than the fallout from keeping him.
nimue77 said:Ahhhhh....so this isn't about what doc is doing....it's about what happens as a result of him being banned or unbanned. Now I get it.
xpanda said:What 'happens as a result of him being banned or unbanned' is the direct result of the things Doc does. His supporters like that he posts so much that he drowns out the others (in fairness, there are some who just find him funny). His detractors hate the spamming, flaming and hijacking.
So, if Doc stays, we lose those posters looking for a good debate without worrying about Doc hijacking their threads. If Doc goes, we lose those posters who think this is censorship, or who like the way Doc posts. There are more people - especially among the veterans - in the former group, than in the latter.
nimue77 said:If "spamming, flaming or hijacking" is really such a problem than why has nothing been done to basehead for his raft of recent instances of such things. There are others I could mention too.
BASEHEAD said:Nim....youre attempts to compare me to spammie is causing you to lose any cred you may have left.
Show me some hijackings?....how about spam?....flame when flamed.
nimue77 said:If "spamming, flaming or hijacking" is really such a problem than why has nothing been done to basehead for his raft of recent instances of such things. There are others I could mention too.
nimue77 said:And Pat Patriot is guity of the same things - not to mention being admitting he is a hypocrate. Odd's that he is one of the posters that sent emails to the mods about doc mercer?
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Big november coming fraud boy....the goverment will be shutting you off soon ....no more freebies fuck face....ahahahahahaha!
No don't give credit to the US troops for anything right fraud boy because it hurts welfare party chances in November...right fraud boy spin your way out of this.....you just showed your vulgar vile fraud piece of scum shit that you are.
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Nimue77, when this admin. foolishly unbanned doc this is the type of board they wanted simply by letting him back.They took a direct shit on the moderators and basically said you can say anything you want to anybody anytime you want...so before you get your panties in bunch and whine about my post I just was mirroring what the moron does all the time.....How do YOU like it?....That is what the adminastration gave their blessing to...its completley in the rules....How do you like it??? ...Huh?
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