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whether it was mathematically correct to call I could have answered rather quickly. But I think I will wait till later this week to answer it....just to make sure.....and it will give some of these guys something to talk about. They can say " see he can't figure it out"..... Sounds like a good time to me.

However you wanna spin it.
 

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Ass kicking. Not sure if watching the UFC or reading the RX.

The big difference is when someone is getting his ass kicked in UFC that person knows he is getting his ass kicked. In this case the person getting his ass kicked can't even figure out its getting kicked.
 

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The big difference is when someone is getting his ass kicked in UFC that person knows he is getting his ass kicked. In this case the person getting his ass kicked can't even figure out its getting kicked.

Wait, I'm not the one getting my ass kicked and I don't even know it. Right?! :)
 

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The big difference is when someone is getting his ass kicked in UFC that person knows he is getting his ass kicked. In this case the person getting his ass kicked can't even figure out its getting kicked.
Look at all the buddies circle jerking over winning nothing and think they are winning something. Guess it will take an rx freeroll to prove myself.

If you people are this stupid at the poker table....you better pray for luck
 

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You got me....can't answer it. Can't even find an answer on the web. I think the play is to stall....have them call clock and then kill my hand when time runs out.

That's cause the answer is not on the web, cause I made the scenario up. But you don't even know where to start with the math. So either it's not as easy as you proclaimed, or you're stupid. So which is it?

Are you ignorant or are you just plain dumb?

Decisions decisions...
 

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That's cause the answer is not on the web, cause I made the scenario up. But you don't even know where to start with the math. So either it's not as easy as you proclaimed, or you're stupid. So which is it?

Let me think about it some more. Can I ask choptalk for hints? I know he's good with numbers.
 

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I see your white flag waving, and surrender is accepted. Until next time sir.
Yeah....I took my shoes and socks off for counting purposes.....still couldn't figure it out.

Im gonna go search for my own offshore forum kiss ass chorus now....then we can battle it out.
 

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I wouldnt call myself a professional poker player. I was very much a recreational player when this happened. It was a 7 month run that worked for me over 4 years ago. It can be verified thru the casino's....i have already offered to have you be the person that does all the checking. You can verify my tax returns and anything you would need.

Yet does not know what the RX poker tournament is.
Yet has never played in any RX poker tournament, despite in that thread saying he will.
Yet can not answer Harry's question. In fact, he's now kind of pretending it wasn't asked.

If you think this guy actually won a bunch of money playing poker, you're gullible and need your head examined.

I haven't seen someone clowned this badly since that Alaskan dummy started offering legal opinions.
 

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OK so here's the scenario.

Mid-stages of a tournament, far from the money (I'll take ICM out of it to make this easier on you)

Blinds are 500/1k with a 100 ante.
You have 22k chips (after your ante and blind) and KJo in the big blind.
It folds to the cutoff, who shoves 11k, and then it folds to you.

Question 1 (easy) - what are your immediate pot odds
Question 2 (harder) - what is the minimum equity you need to make a call +EV
Question 3 - how do you range this opponent (doesn't really matter, just make up a theoretically feasible range)
Question 4 (no cheating using pokerstove) - What is your equity vs his range

I think most players understand that if your answer to #4 is > your answer to #2 you should call. And that your answer to #4 depends on your answer to #3. But what are the answers?

Good tournament players make the mathematically correct play here, they don't only trust their gut. And they have a good idea of the answers to all 4 questions without using a calculator or any other tools, and base their decision in that math.

So which is it? Call or fold? And why?

You have 20 seconds

#1)

Assuming a 9-handed table, there is 13.4k in the pot (900 antes + 1k BB + 500 SB + 11k shove). You have to call 10k to call the shove, so you are getting 1.34/1 pot odds

#2)

You need to win 1/(1.34 + 1)% of the time to make this break-even. You need 42.7% equity.

#3)

I mean obviously this depends on opponent, but I'd say someone shoving 11bb from middle position has something like 77+, ATs+, AJo+, KJs+, KQo, JQs. Now whether or not that is a profitable shoving range is another discussion, for me personally it would be a tad wider. But that's about right for a lot of people.

In reality shoving 18.6% of hands here is actually unexploitable and Nash-eq correct (a whole other math discussion for another day). FYI 18.6% is 22+ A7s+ A5s-A3s ATo+ K9s+ KJo+ Q9s+ QJo J9s+ T9s 98s

But I don't think most are shoving quite that wide.

#4)

KJ is only 33% equity vs the range I assigned. So it is a fold as I have this opponent ranged.

Interestingly enough we have exactly 42.7% equity against the 18.6% Nash shoving range shown above. So it would be exactly break-even against an opponent who was shoving that wide.




The answers to #4 came from pokerstove, I can't figure out hand vs range equity exactly in my head, although I usually have a pretty close approximation.

Really the answers to #1 and #2 are what you should be able to figure out in about 10 seconds. What % equity do I need to call is kind of an important concept (although useless if you can't even get close on #4).

Ranging an opponent is obviously extremely important, and then given that range a good player should be able to get somewhat close on #4.





So it's not exactly 3+4 kind of math...
 

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Yet does not know what the RX poker tournament is.
Yet has never played in any RX poker tournament, despite in that thread saying he will.
Yet can not answer Harry's question. In fact, he's now kind of pretending it wasn't asked.

If you think this guy actually won a bunch of money playing poker, you're gullible and need your head examined.

I haven't seen someone clowned this badly since that Alaskan dummy started offering legal opinions.

Lying acebb doing his thing. I said I will play in it this year. I will play every tournament if you post picks for one week. Do you know this is s gambling site?

thats why you run for the hills when real money is offered to prove what I've done.

You Run from every heads up bet against me that involves posting picks.

Can't answer Harry's question???? Lmao. It took seconds to know the math answer. I'm talking seconds.
 

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Lying acebb doing his thing. I said I will play in it this year. I will play every tournament of you post picks for one week. Do you know this is s gambling site?

thats why you run for the hills when real money is offered to prove what I've done.

You Run from every heads up bet against me that involves posting picks.

Can't answer Harry's question???? Lmao. It took seconds to know the math answer. I'm talking seconds.

See, last night you seemed content to surrender and admit that you couldn't figure it out.

Now you supposedly knew the answer in seconds.

And no, just because you said fold does not mean you got the answer right. This is math, it's like grade school, you have to show your work. You did not answer any of my 4 questions.

I could come up with some more scenarios that are a little closer (this was a pretty obvious fold), and I'm sure you would get a LOT of them wrong.

Whatever. Arguing with you is boring. Too easy.
 

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See, last night you seemed content to surrender and admit that you couldn't figure it out.

Now you supposedly knew the answer in seconds.

And no, just because you said fold does not mean you got the answer right. This is math, it's like grade school, you have to show your work. You did not answer any of my 4 questions.

I could come up with some more scenarios that are a little closer (this was a pretty obvious fold), and I'm sure you would get a LOT of them wrong.

Whatever. Arguing with you is boring. Too easy.
I told you why I would fold. What other answer do you want. the math is quite simple and is not even close to the only factor as to call or fold. But don't worry....your kiss ass chorus here will back you up no matter what.

Hell....maybe even choptalk will back you up again without ever adding anything but" you're wrong"

but hey, sheriff joe and lying acebb got your back......so you're in great company. A psychopath and a lying psychopath who stalks dudes.
 

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See, last night you seemed content to surrender and admit that you couldn't figure it out.

Now you supposedly knew the answer in seconds.

And no, just because you said fold does not mean you got the answer right. This is math, it's like grade school, you have to show your work. You did not answer any of my 4 questions.

I could come up with some more scenarios that are a little closer (this was a pretty obvious fold), and I'm sure you would get a LOT of them wrong.

Whatever. Arguing with you is boring. Too easy.
Lol.....you thought my surrender post was serious? Too funny. Have a great day!
 

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I told you why I would fold. What other answer do you want.

This will be my last response to you in this thread.

I wanted answers to the other 4 and you couldn't give them. You didn't even know where to start.

And as predicted, you STFU after you had to admit defeat. And equally as predictable, you came back in here flapping your gums within an hour of me posting the real answer, saying of course it was easy and of course you knew.

Everyone knows you're a clown, but keep trying to convince yourself otherwise. No one believes for one second you could answer that question, you proved you could not. You put your ignorance on full display in this thread - everyone who read this thread knows it, and no amount of grandstanding by you will change anyone's opinion.

You received an epic beatdown in this thread. I don't throw around the word "knockout" often, but I'm pretty sure that's what you poly-forum fags would call it.

Now go ahead and get in the last word, cause I know that's important to you. I honestly feel bad for you, you're a pathetic human being. What a sad, sad life you must lead.
 
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Lying acebb doing his thing. I said I will play in it this year. I will play every tournament if you post picks for one week. Do you know this is s gambling site?

thats why you run for the hills when real money is offered to prove what I've done.

You Run from every heads up bet against me that involves posting picks.

Can't answer Harry's question???? Lmao. It took seconds to know the math answer. I'm talking seconds.

You're lying your ass off again as usual.

I started bugging you about these tournaments 2+ yeas ago, and you said you would play.

Here is the grand total of the number of RX tournaments you've played in the last 3 years:

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This will be my last response to you in this thread.

I wanted answers to the other 4 and you couldn't give them. You didn't even know where to start.

And as predicted, you STFU after you had to admit defeat. And equally as predictable, you came back in here flapping your gums within an hour of me posting the real answer, saying of course it was easy and of course you knew.

Everyone knows you're a clown, but keep trying to convince yourself otherwise. No one believes for one second you could answer that question, you proved you could not. You put your ignorance on full display in this thread - everyone who read this thread knows it, and no amount of grandstanding by you will change anyone's opinion.

You received an epic beatdown in this thread. I don't throw around the word "knockout" often, but I'm pretty sure that's what you poly-forum fags would call it.

Now go ahead and get in the last word, cause I know that's important to you. I honestly feel bad for you, you're a pathetic human being. What a sad, sad life you must lead.

Using that "get the last word" trick. Hysterical. I can answer every question and it isn't even funny how stupid you are to think I can't.

Be happy you have your own lemmings in here to pat your back.....just because you win rx free rolls you think you are some poker expert.

The truth is..... I've won a truck load playing poker in literally 7 months. More than most will see in a lifetime. I know that hurts because you and these other dolts think because they know poker lingo....they are Doyle Brunson.

The real answer???? Lmao. I gave you MY answer last night....which of course was the correct play

now I will enjoy my suite at the Borgata the next few days and you and your know nothin morons can win free rolls and actually think you know something.

Epic beatdown? You asked a question and much to your disappointment I was 100 percent correct. Yeah, quite a beating.

Now be happy that you have a bunch of losing degenerated penny slot gamblers here to raise your hand in victory.
 

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