do you dealers mind if I ask what kind of base pay you get?
Is it kind of like waiters?
Basically what im asking is, is most of your income dependent on tips?
Also would you guys rather keep all of your tips or do you prefer the pool tips thing more?
If I was a dealer I think I would rather keep all of mine 100%, and let everyone fend for themselves.
I dont see the benefit of giving customers great customer service and keeping a smile on my face when the dealer 2 tables over is being an asshole not getting many tips while a portion of your tip money goes to the asshole.
Is it kind of like waiters?
Basically what im asking is, is most of your income dependent on tips?
Also would you guys rather keep all of your tips or do you prefer the pool tips thing more?
If I was a dealer I think I would rather keep all of mine 100%, and let everyone fend for themselves.
I dont see the benefit of giving customers great customer service and keeping a smile on my face when the dealer 2 tables over is being an asshole not getting many tips while a portion of your tip money goes to the asshole.
since im brand spanking new, im sure terps can give you better answers but here are mine.
my base pay is 4.50 an hr +tips. ive only dealt bj though, im signed off on miss stud and let it ride, but ive only shadow dealt them (with a dealer watching me) for 30 mins. they are just focusing on hammering in bj, how to pay out people, keep your tray organized, receiving fills (chips brought to you) and closing tables etc right now. each additional game you learn is normally a bump in pay, so you learn craps u get .25 an hr raise, learn roulette, another .25 an hr raise etc etc
so as you can see, of my 22 an hr pay, almost 80% is from the tips. as for pooling i really dont mind, compared to vegas we dont really have many robot dealers that show no personality or interact with the customers. also high limit can rack up alot of ur tips for the pooling, if someone is playing 5k hand, hits a bj and tips $500 people will be fighting themselves to get in there if you didnt pool
my base pay is 4.50 an hr +tips. ive only dealt bj though, im signed off on miss stud and let it ride, but ive only shadow dealt them (with a dealer watching me) for 30 mins. they are just focusing on hammering in bj, how to pay out people, keep your tray organized, receiving fills (chips brought to you) and closing tables etc right now. each additional game you learn is normally a bump in pay, so you learn craps u get .25 an hr raise, learn roulette, another .25 an hr raise etc etc
so as you can see, of my 22 an hr pay, almost 80% is from the tips. as for pooling i really dont mind, compared to vegas we dont really have many robot dealers that show no personality or interact with the customers. also high limit can rack up alot of ur tips for the pooling, if someone is playing 5k hand, hits a bj and tips $500 people will be fighting themselves to get in there if you didnt pool
nope and i have maybe smoked 4-5 cigs/cigars in my life, so it is def something new. the first day or two breathing it in, almost took my voice away/made my eyes water, but now after like 7-8 shifts of it, im starting to notice it alot less. had a good laugh when this 24 yr old or so was basically chain smoking at my table asked for a 2nd ash tray to cover up his cig sitting in the tray bc he didnt like smoke
I put a dip in my mouth very discretely one time and always made sure I did not spit in front of anyone.
Anyway this old 60 something women in her sixties chain smoking and blowing in everyone's faces had the nerve to tell me to spit my dip out because its gross.
I told the bitch to fuck off and quit blowing your cancer sticks in my face.
then I grabbed a clear cup and put the spit cup right next to her and made real sure she saw me spit every time I had to spit.
The rest of the table loved it.
Another guy at the table then asked me If he could bum a dip.
I said sure you can as long as its a big one, and as long as you take it in front of the cancer stick bitch.
If any other person at the table besides her would have asked me to quit I would have quit.
But not her
Not a single person at the casino got mad at me. Not the dealer or the pit boss.
I think they all agreed that they would rather be around a discrete dipper then a chain smoker who blew smoke in everyones face.
Once smoking bitch left I got rid of my clear cup and returned to doing my habit discretely.
Anyway this old 60 something women in her sixties chain smoking and blowing in everyone's faces had the nerve to tell me to spit my dip out because its gross.
I told the bitch to fuck off and quit blowing your cancer sticks in my face.
then I grabbed a clear cup and put the spit cup right next to her and made real sure she saw me spit every time I had to spit.
The rest of the table loved it.
Another guy at the table then asked me If he could bum a dip.
I said sure you can as long as its a big one, and as long as you take it in front of the cancer stick bitch.
If any other person at the table besides her would have asked me to quit I would have quit.
But not her
Not a single person at the casino got mad at me. Not the dealer or the pit boss.
I think they all agreed that they would rather be around a discrete dipper then a chain smoker who blew smoke in everyones face.
Once smoking bitch left I got rid of my clear cup and returned to doing my habit discretely.
One thing I like about the Gold Strike in Tunica is that if you are the only player sitting at a table you can ask for the table to be non-smoking. As long as you are there the table will continue to be non-smoking. This goes for BJ, Baccarat, whatever...I didn't know this till I was told about from a dealer. They don't advertise it, but I am sure everyone appreciates it when the table is made NS.
thats a nice idea, i often wondered if a non smoking casino business would drop off alot. I would think some people would go out of their way to go there just because its non smoking. But with gambling, smoking and drinking seems to go hand in hand for most. im surprised by how many attractive women smoke at the casino.
Al,
Did you ever play much at the Horseshoe next door? I used to play regularly at the Shoe before Harrah's bought them out. They pretty much ignored counters at reds for years there. Not long after Harrah's bought them out they flat-bet me, and at the time I think I was only spreading $10-$50. I haven't been back since.
I used to play some at Gold Strike and some of the other joints in Tunica, like Fitgeralds - but always liked the Shoe the best.
I play at the Shoe some. I like the atmosphere at the GS the best though...and it helps that they have a pretty good double deck $25 min game. I can bet greens with impunity - I try not to bet too many blacks as I think it would throw up a flag...unless I am playing Bac then I bet whatever. Keep it under $200 a hand and they won't even look at you in the high limit salon. Plus I get better comps at the GS and I like there steakhouse more.
It is really almost impossible to do it any other way. If dealers kept there own tips, every dealer would be forced to know every game, and also deal at every given shift. No one would wanna work the grave shift being it is usually incredibly slow... there would be no incentive to deal any other game besides BJ being it is the best as far as tips are concerned.
Not really, good dice crews can do quote well. Bacc can be best job go for own at high end strip joints...
Casinos have ruined tokeswith carnival games, but why do they care? The TR can also be about keeping the wage in line with management wage as well. Otherwise many dealers would crush the Supervisors. 20 years a dealer here.
Yeah we typically do better then the supervisors. Then again supervisors get full paid vacation and personal time. At least at my casino, mini bacc is the lowest tip game we have with pai gow poker being right there as well. The carnival games are actually pretty good for us (next best next to BJ)... craps is tough with a 4 man crew you really need to make a lot in a given night to make it worth it. I am sure every casino is different, but at least at mine it would be near impossible to keep your own.
