No argument about the crowds at Stanford or UCLA. That's no way to support your football team. I think maybe in time when Harbaugh and Neweasel have their mitts on their respective programs, that will change. Bezerkeley seemed like they packed in a better crowd yesterday, Tedford's doing -- and he'll do more after they evict the tree-sitters. Autzen was as loud and as raukus as they come Saturday. I also think having a game at Qwest field made WSU's crowd look better than they have looked too.
50-80,000 is a good Saturday crowd for the west coast culture. Those $5 cokes and $7 hot dogs will more than make up for 10 or 20,000 cheap seats, parking lots, extra cops and security.... who needs it if they don't have to put up with it. I don't blame them.... but a 55-80,000 per game average at the better schools would make the conference look better at large, I agree. However don't let yourself get too Neyland'ed out in the head. As long as there are the big houses in the B-10 and Stanfords on the WC to compare to the Vandys, that keeps things in perspective. AZ, CAL, UW, ASU and Oregon should all pull 55,000 - 85,000 per game. USC should pull 90,000 per game, probably UCLA should too.
kentucky NO WAY there lack of offense will get them rolled in the SEC ... Auburn another overrated opinion to start a year on auburn how many years are they going to come out as a overrated team and immediately fall of the map losing to someone they shouldn't IE South florida and MISS St last year back to back
kentucky's defense is very stout and their offense just had first game jitters-they will be fine just like last year when they were a top 10 teams---those were 2 good teams that beat auburnbut yes that was just one year-they are definitely a top 20 team however this year-watch and see-and every team I listed will be ranked in the top 20 at some point-until they beat each other up
I disagree with every one below #5. That's pure speculation and it would need to be a special year for them to be ranked. Vandy and both Mississippi teams are at the bottom where they deserve to be. That's 3 right there. (This year LSU gets 2 of them [+bama] at home. Pretty tough you think?) Alabama, KY and SC are mid tier teams similar to Zona, UCLA, Oregon St.
You are bullshitting yourself if you think you can include these teams in a top 20 list in any given year. As a matter of fact, I think all 3 Pac-10 examples have at least as good if not a much better chance that they will end up in the top 20 before all the SEC examples will. You seem to do most of your handicapping reading the annuals and local papers that are full of praises for your precious SEC also-rans. They haven't proven a thing for years but the Pac teams I just named have. Look at all the smoke up your own ass before you blow it up everyone elses. Sorry to put the facts in your way.
Alabama will drill those 3 teams you mentioned and the top 5 SEC teams are all top 10-please list me 5 PAC 10 teams that are in the top 10??? This means that teams like alabama, vandy, south car, florida, georgia, tenn play 5 top 10 teams during the year. What pac 10 team plays 5 top 10 teams this year?
Oh you mean playing teams in thier own conference who schedule mostly lowlife non-conf. competition most of the time then play 5 more teams in conference play that will never be competitive... end up with a rank for beating all the losers they should and then 2 or 3 tough games the rest of the season to "win" their rank... how circular and meaningless to the rest of the country.
I told you that Alabama was playing an exceptional season for themselves. How long's it been? How about next year? How about LSU going to play UW in '09 with a program in shambles just for a little extra exercise to "PROVE" their superiority? If they are so good and if they get all those EASY conferfence games like everyone else, then why can't they prove something to the rest of the counytry and play everyone like most of the rest of CFB does? Play some REAL teams and I don't mean the same teams they play in conference every year, good and bad. If you are great it's your obligation to show you are and take on all comers. If not then you are just jacking off. You might like that (in your football dreams) but I think it's boring.
Because they were lucky enough to get Ohio St. who happens to be the ONE B-10 team that can't beat an SEC team. Michigan beat the snot out of Florida (one of the "elite") last year. Too bad for Florida they didn't get Ohio St.
You can say that the SEC won the NC 2 of the last 3 years but you can also say 2 years this whole decade. See how you blow smoke up everyone's ass?
Can explain why they didn't win a clear cut NC for 7 years before that?
clear cut---well auburn went undefeated but were ineligible-that should count as well-then you got tenn is 98-its tough to win it every year man-but my answer is simple-they beat up on each other which means they dont get the opportunity every year-if the SEC had a team in the NC game every year for a decade i would expect 8-9 National championships
Yesterday's game didn't prove shit as to who is the best team in the nation. The top teams all played some of the worst teams in the NCAA. Who is the best team though? USC and Ohio St. Week 3 we watch the real National Championship game. Not saying teams like Florida and Georgia aren't very good teams, because they are, but neither has the talent that USC and OSU have. I'm not a fan of either team, that's just the truth.
LSU, Auburn and Tennessee are not top 10 teams IMO. SEC has two top 10 teams- Georgia and Florida. I think I saw someone say Vandy is a top 20 team too, which might be the stupidest thing I've seen in the NCAAF forum. Their season win total was 3 games. If someone thinks they are top 20 I sure hope you hammered the over for the max bet because top 20 teams usually win 4+ games. Maybe I just have too high expectations for my top teams though.
LSU, Auburn and Tennessee are not top 10 teams IMO. SEC has two top 10 teams- Georgia and Florida. I think I saw someone say Vandy is a top 20 team too, which might be the stupidest thing I've seen in the NCAAF forum. Their season win total was 3 games. If someone thinks they are top 20 I sure hope you hammered the over for the max bet because top 20 teams usually win 4+ games. Maybe I just have too high expectations for my top teams though.
Man you SEC honks are really full of yourselves. In your own minds you are legendary. But if you think you can just blow smoke up people's asses that way and be believed, you are pathetically homered.
By the way, wasn't that around the time when USC beat Auburn twice including a shut out @ Auburn, and for that USC should have played 2nd fiddle to them? For what they did to Auburn, if it came down to picking them or USC, the Trojans deserve a 5-year pass over the Tigers just for what they did to them. (The best the SEC had at the time too.)
I've said this before... the only thing that makes the SEC a better conference is the fact that there are one or 2 more good teams that play in it compared to the rest.... for the time being -- and nothing more than that.
I never said USC should have played 2nd fiddle to auburn USC would be a top rate team still if they played in the SEC but i was just saying auburn went 13-0 a few years back and was ineligible-and USC is def a top 5 team and perhaps the best but until someone dethrowns the SEC they reign as best conference with the best teams hands down
Wake me up when any team in the Pac-10 not named USC could finish higher than 5th in a pool of teams: Florida, Georgia, LSU, Alabama, Auburn, Tenn, South Carolina
Washington, WSU, UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, Oregon State might as well be listed as BYE on USC's schedule. The next big game ASU or Cal wins will be the first I can remember. Oregon still thinks it's cool to rush the field when beating lower ranked teams like ASU on their path to getting waxed in the Holiday Bowl
Washington, WSU, UCLA, Stanford, Arizona, Oregon State might as well be listed as BYE on USC's schedule. The next big game ASU or Cal wins will be the first I can remember. Oregon still thinks it's cool to rush the field when beating lower ranked teams like ASU on their path to getting waxed in the Holiday Bowl
