Do we all agree USC is the best now?

[VoiceofReason101]

You could sit down any 2 USC backs who are at least in Beanie Wells class if not better than him and USC would make just as good a game of it. McKnight and Johnson could sit the game out but they still have Gable and Bradford. Ohio St. has good depth but not as good as USC.

That's exactly why I made the statement. This game not only losses its luster on a casual fan standpoint/national appeal but Maurice isn't exactly a surefire future NFL player, little less star. Don't worry ESPN will do everything in their power to make us think that this game is as important as they make it out to be (see previous post).

Conan what percentage of USC players do you gander get "gifts" ?

 

[MattMillen+]

The college is in a state that is what 1/4 of the population of the entire country to recruit from and they are the only competitive college program for 1000 miles and they would qualify as a middle of the road SEC team.

Are you really saying USC would be a middle of the road SEC team?

 

[bigbookie]

Are you really saying USC would be a middle of the road SEC team?

this is bs-they would be at the top of the sec but they would lose an avg of 2 games per year

 

[MattMillen+]

Talk about an SEC homer.

 

[LowTide]

Yawn

 

[Conan]

That's exactly why I made the statement. This game not only losses its luster on a casual fan standpoint/national appeal but Maurice isn't exactly a surefire future NFL player, little less star. Don't worry ESPN will do everything in their power to make us think that this game is as important as they make it out to be (see previous post).

Conan what percentage of USC players do you gander get "gifts" ?

I really don't know that VOR. I know that there's a certain amount of sleazy people around most CFB programs that occasionally get their dirty mitts into kids lives but I see no reason why the coaches or administration of ANY big school would consider there's an advantage to it. This goes on, no doubt but it's extremely overblown when so many of a school's athletes are made the victims of inuendo. That's not fair to them.

And it's not just that either. I remember last year everyone declared one of the UCLA players to be a criminal gangsta when he was arrested for burglary based on nosy neighbor's tip. Turns out he was helping his friend get his stuff out of his own cousin's house. Or the UCLA coach who was arrested and then completely cleared of all charges. The vultures start circling at the first smell of anything resembling death.

VOR, what's your opinion of the way the many top SEC programs cushy up their schedules with non-conference nobodies and 5 or 6 meaningless conference opponents every year? (just to justify their having to play 3 or 4 tough games vs the "elite" -- who's schedules are no different from thier own.) The way they set their schedules, all they need to do is win 1/2 of those big SEC games and they wind up 10-2, ranked and an asset to each other's SOS.

Cool kind of setup don't you think?

 

[MattMillen+]

I really don't know that VOR. I know that there's a certain amount of sleazy people around most CFB programs that occasionally get their dirty mitts into kids lives but I see no reason why the coaches or administration of ANY big school would consider there's an advantage to it. This goes on, no doubt but it's extremely overblown when so many of a school's athletes are made the victims of inuendo. That's not fair to them.

And it's not just that either. I remember last year everyone declared one of the UCLA players to be a criminal gangsta when he was arrested for burglary based on nosy neighbor's tip. Turns out he was helping his friend get his stuff out of his own cousin's house. Or the UCLA coach who was arrested and then completely cleared of all charges. The vultures start circling at the first smell of anything resembling death.

VOR, what's your opinion of the way the many top SEC programs cushy up their schedules with non-conference nobodies and 5 or 6 meaningless conference opponents every year? (just to justify their having to play 3 or 4 tough games vs the "elite" -- who's schedules are no different from thier own.) The way they set their schedules, all they need to do is win 1/2 of those big SEC games and they wind up 10-2, ranked and an asset to each other's SOS.

Cool kind of setup don't you think?

Very nice input Conan. Couldn't have said it better myself.

 

[bigbookie]

I really don't know that VOR. I know that there's a certain amount of sleazy people around most CFB programs that occasionally get their dirty mitts into kids lives but I see no reason why the coaches or administration of ANY big school would consider there's an advantage to it. This goes on, no doubt but it's extremely overblown when so many of a school's athletes are made the victims of inuendo. That's not fair to them.

And it's not just that either. I remember last year everyone declared one of the UCLA players to be a criminal gangsta when he was arrested for burglary based on nosy neighbor's tip. Turns out he was helping his friend get his stuff out of his own cousin's house. Or the UCLA coach who was arrested and then completely cleared of all charges. The vultures start circling at the first smell of anything resembling death.

VOR, what's your opinion of the way the many top SEC programs cushy up their schedules with non-conference nobodies and 5 or 6 meaningless conference opponents every year? (just to justify their having to play 3 or 4 tough games vs the "elite" -- who's schedules are no different from thier own.) The way they set their schedules, all they need to do is win 1/2 of those big SEC games and they wind up 10-2, ranked and an asset to each other's SOS.

Cool kind of setup don't you think?

not all the OOC games are cushy-look at alabama playing clemson and tennessee going to UCLA and Cal-of course there are some and it is like that in every conference but the in conference games are so tough they need a break every now and then. I mean SEC doesnt play teams like wash and wash st in conference. There are 9 teams in the SEC that are top 20 quality

 

[whormoan]

I really don't know that VOR. I know that there's a certain amount of sleazy people around most CFB programs that occasionally get their dirty mitts into kids lives but I see no reason why the coaches or administration of ANY big school would consider there's an advantage to it. This goes on, no doubt but it's extremely overblown when so many of a school's athletes are made the victims of inuendo. That's not fair to them.

And it's not just that either. I remember last year everyone declared one of the UCLA players to be a criminal gangsta when he was arrested for burglary based on nosy neighbor's tip. Turns out he was helping his friend get his stuff out of his own cousin's house. Or the UCLA coach who was arrested and then completely cleared of all charges. The vultures start circling at the first smell of anything resembling death.

VOR, what's your opinion of the way the many top SEC programs cushy up their schedules with non-conference nobodies and 5 or 6 meaningless conference opponents every year? (just to justify their having to play 3 or 4 tough games vs the "elite" -- who's schedules are no different from thier own.) The way they set their schedules, all they need to do is win 1/2 of those big SEC games and they wind up 10-2, ranked and an asset to each other's SOS.

Cool kind of setup don't you think?

As opposed to USC who after Ohio State won't play a single relevant team the entire yr while Florida, LSU, Georgia, Tenn, Auburn, Ala, etc... all knock each other off. There is not a single team in the Pac-10 not named USC who would finish ahead of any of the teams in the SEC I just listed. So while USC has breathers bs Wash St, OSU, Stanford (oops), etc..., why shouldn't SEC schools have a breather or two on the schedule

 

[whormoan]

I really don't know that VOR. I know that there's a certain amount of sleazy people around most CFB programs that occasionally get their dirty mitts into kids lives but I see no reason why the coaches or administration of ANY big school would consider there's an advantage to it. This goes on, no doubt but it's extremely overblown when so many of a school's athletes are made the victims of inuendo. That's not fair to them.

And it's not just that either. I remember last year everyone declared one of the UCLA players to be a criminal gangsta when he was arrested for burglary based on nosy neighbor's tip. Turns out he was helping his friend get his stuff out of his own cousin's house. Or the UCLA coach who was arrested and then completely cleared of all charges. The vultures start circling at the first smell of anything resembling death.

VOR, what's your opinion of the way the many top SEC programs cushy up their schedules with non-conference nobodies and 5 or 6 meaningless conference opponents every year? (just to justify their having to play 3 or 4 tough games vs the "elite" -- who's schedules are no different from thier own.) The way they set their schedules, all they need to do is win 1/2 of those big SEC games and they wind up 10-2, ranked and an asset to each other's SOS.

Cool kind of setup don't you think?

"No advantage to it". I guess the top recruits in the country lining up and coming from all over the nation to play where they can line their pockets while in college isn't an advantage.

 

[Conan]

not all the OOC games are cushy-look at alabama playing clemson and tennessee going to UCLA and Cal-of course there are some and it is like that in every conference but the in conference games are so tough they need a break every now and then. I mean SEC doesnt play teams like wash and wash st in conference. There are 9 teams in the SEC that are top 20 quality

bigbookie,

I have numerous times given credit where it was due. UGA and UT have done their share of scheduling good football games OOC. Alabama HAD to do it or Saban would likely get nowhere for years to come. LSU hasn't done it for about a decade, in fact they PURPOSEFULLY schedule bottom Pac-10 teams because when they even go as far as scheduling a mid-ranked Pac team like Oregon St., they have a tough time beating them. Next year they have Washington. Whooo hoooo! Florida hasn't been anywhere for 2 decades. That is chickenshit no matter how you look at it. If UGA and UT can make things interesting (like the Pac-10 does) then why not LSU, Florida, Auburn... oh wait a minute. Auburn did ante up and played USC only a few years ago. I think they sent the rest of the SEC champs a clear message. Nevermind.

 

[Conan]

"No advantage to it". I guess the top recruits in the country lining up and coming from all over the nation to play where they can line their pockets while in college isn't an advantage.

You forgot to mention a chance of sleeping with Lindsay Lohan and her friends.

 

[guitarjosh]

USC looked great yesterday, no doubt. But they looked the best early on in the 2006 season too. I talked to one of my OU homer friends (who hates USC) after the 2006 Arkansas game, and he said they looked to be the best team. Booty looked amazing that game, and it looked like they wouldn't miss Leinart at all. Then, the rest of the season hit, and Booty had quite a few problems. Sanchez looked good yesterday, but he also had all day to throw. We can't judge how good he or the team will be off of one game.

 

[Conan]

"not all the OOC games are cushy-look at alabama playing clemson and tennessee going to UCLA and Cal-of course there are some and it is like that in every conference but the in conference games are so tough they need a break every now and then. I mean SEC doesnt play teams like wash and wash st in conference. There are 9 teams in the SEC that are top 20 quality"


One more thing bigbookie, if you are going to make a statement like 9 SEC teams are top 20 caliber, you'd better start naming off names because that sounds to me like some southern fried exaggerated bullshit designed to blow smoke up everyone's ass.

And futhermore, before you start accusing the Pac teams of having it so easy vs teams like Washington and Washington St., don't forget about the Mississippi's and Miss. St.'s, Vandy's... what makes them any harder? You people talk like there's no such thing as football anywhere but in the SEC. That's how ignorant you sound sometimes.

 

[Harvey Dent]

9 top 20 teams in the SEC really?

 

[The Vegas Snake]

NO i dont agree, not yet....its week 1 man, usc beat a very sorry virginia team. if they beat OSU in 2 weeks, then talk all u want...

 

[whormoan]

"not all the OOC games are cushy-look at alabama playing clemson and tennessee going to UCLA and Cal-of course there are some and it is like that in every conference but the in conference games are so tough they need a break every now and then. I mean SEC doesnt play teams like wash and wash st in conference. There are 9 teams in the SEC that are top 20 quality"


One more thing bigbookie, if you are going to make a statement like 9 SEC teams are top 20 caliber, you'd better start naming off names because that sounds to me like some southern fried exaggerated bullshit designed to blow smoke up everyone's ass.

And futhermore, before you start accusing the Pac teams of having it so easy vs teams like Washington and Washington St., don't forget about the Mississippi's and Miss. St.'s, Vandy's... what makes them any harder? You people talk like there's no such thing as football anywhere but in the SEC. That's how ignorant you sound sometimes.

Any team not named USC that traveled to Oxford or Starkville would be in for a fight at the least and most would lose. The biggest difference between the SEC and the Pathetic 10 is the difficulty of winning on the road. Miss and Miss St will have 80,000 crazy inbreds at every game making life tough. Did you happen to watch the Stanford game the other night? Tough crowd. Wait til you see the half empty Rose Bowl tomorrow night

 

[Harvey Dent]

Any team not named USC that traveled to Oxford or Starkville would be in for a fight at the least and most would lose. The biggest difference between the SEC and the Pathetic 10 is the difficulty of winning on the road. Miss and Miss St will have 80,000 crazy inbreds at every game making life tough. Did you happen to watch the Stanford game the other night? Tough crowd. Wait til you see the half empty Rose Bowl tomorrow night

They didnt have much problem at arkansas

 

[whormoan]

They didnt have much problem at arkansas

I know Trojans have a hard time reading, but I said any team NOT NAMED USC in reference to Conan's ridiculous claim that the SEC has bottom feeders that don't get mentioned when talking about the conference. The 2nd place team in the Pac-10 this yr (whoever it is) would be lucky to come out of Oxford or Starkville, MS with a W, let alone the tougher venues

 

[ballsout]

Yawn

i second that.