Did anyone learn anything from NFL pre-season?

Avocado33 · Sep 3, 2023

REDEYE said:
Pretty much every team has its share of hype each year, especially going into a season, if you're paying attention to that kind of thing.
You seem to pay attention to hype more than most here. In the big scheme of things , it means very little.

I pay attention to it and laugh at it

More so I laugh at people falling for it

Nothing wrong with it

REDEYE · Sep 3, 2023

Avocado33 said:
I pay attention to it and laugh at it

More so I laugh at people falling for it

Nothing wrong with it

I guess you would have to know who is falling for it. Do you seek those people out ?

Bozzie · Sep 3, 2023

lol speaking of "falling" for things besides joe Joe ...Red is the last guy who should be talking about "falling" for anything...

Russell Wilson +250 for comeback player of the year...value I think.
Darrell Hamlin's double the favorite to win at -285.. no value.

Avocado33 · Sep 3, 2023

REDEYE said:
I guess you would have to know who is falling for it. Do you seek those people out ?

No need to seek them out. It falls in my lap

CHOPTALK · Sep 3, 2023

Bozzie said:
lol speaking of falling for things.besides joe Joe ...red is the last guy who should be talking "falling "for anything.

Russell Wilson +250 for comeback player of the year...value I think.
Darrell Hamlin's double the favorite to win at -285.. no value.

Do you mean +2500
+250 is horrible value on that play
It’s over +2000 everywherr

And Hamlin winning the award is basically a formality at this point . I bet Hamlin back when he was +330 months ago

Bozzie · Sep 3, 2023

CHOPTALK said:
Do you mean +2500
+250 is horrible value on that play
It’s over +2000 everywherr

And Hamlin winning the award is basically a formality at this point . I bet Hamlin back when he was +330 months ago

I did..my bad.

Bozzie · Sep 3, 2023

CHOPTALK said:
Do you mean +2500
+250 is horrible value on that play
It’s over +2000 everywherr

And Hamlin winning the award is basically a formality at this point . I bet Hamlin back when he was +330 months ago

You know the press is in love already with DH...it's a long season plus he's just average at best.

good luck..mostly shopping odds haven't bought any futures but the Wilson odds... I like.

PatsFan1283 · Sep 3, 2023

I’m on Hamlin for decent amount

Unless it’s revealed he’s really dead and sheriff joe was right all along, I’d be reasonably surprised if he didn’t win

also think Wilson is done but even if he jumps over the defense from midfield gonna be tough to beat Hamlin

Avocado33 · Sep 3, 2023

Bozzie said:
lol speaking of "falling" for things besides joe Joe ...Red is the last guy who should be talking about "falling" for anything...

Russell Wilson +250 for comeback player of the year...value I think.
Darrell Hamlin's double the favorite to win at -285.. no value.

Nah man Russ is done

Maybe worth a shot in Lamar or Dobbins if Ravens get rolling

Though Hamlin may have it locked up if he is a regular player

Greenbacks · Sep 3, 2023

Comeback Player of Year 2023

97524

Damar Hamlin

-250

97528

John Metchie

+1000

97509

Calvin Ridley

+1200

97506

Matthew Stafford

+1200

97500

Russell Wilson

+1200

97530

Sam Darnold

+1200

97529

Tua Tagovailoa

+1200

97526

Lamar Jackson

+2500

97523

Cooper Kupp

+2800

97527

Baker Mayfield

+3300

97508

Trey Lance

+3300

97525

Odell Beckham Jr.

+4000

97514

Breece Hall

+6600

97503

Javonte Williams

+6600

97522

Kyler Murray

+6600

97533

Michael Thomas

+6600

97532

Tony Pollard

+6600

97531

Chase Young

+7500

97521

Carson Wentz

+8000

97507

Rashaad Penny

+10000

97504

Tim Patrick

+15000

97501

Zach Wilson

+15000

97511

Allen Robinson

+20000

97515

Elijah Mitchell

+20000

97517

Harold Landry

+20000

97516

Shaquil Barrett

+20000

97513

Sterling Shepard

+20000

97510

JC Jackson

+25000

97518

JD Mckissic

+25000

97505

Rashan Gary

+25000

97502

Rashod Bateman

+30000

Greenbacks · Sep 3, 2023

Sam Darnold is a back up.
He shouldn't be +1200

CHOPTALK · Sep 3, 2023

I think all Hamlin needs to do is play at least 1 play in the regular season .

This has nothing to do with how good or bad he is .
Nobody is saying he’s better then Tua or Calvin Ridley .

That’s not the point .
The point is he is coming back from the dead and playing again .

That’s all he needs to do .
Don’t matter how many tackles he makes or INTs he gets .

If it was about performance on the field he would not even be a candidate .

Bozzie · Sep 3, 2023

Greenbacks said:
Comeback Player of Year 2023

97524 Damar Hamlin -250
97528 John Metchie +1000
97509 Calvin Ridley +1200
97506 Matthew Stafford +1200
97500 Russell Wilson +1200
97530 Sam Darnold +1200
97529 Tua Tagovailoa +1200
97526 Lamar Jackson +2500
97523 Cooper Kupp +2800
97527 Baker Mayfield +3300
97508 Trey Lance +3300
97525 Odell Beckham Jr. +4000
97514 Breece Hall +6600
97503 Javonte Williams +6600
97522 Kyler Murray +6600
97533 Michael Thomas +6600
97532 Tony Pollard +6600
97531 Chase Young +7500
97521 Carson Wentz +8000
97507 Rashaad Penny +10000
97504 Tim Patrick +15000
97501 Zach Wilson +15000
97511 Allen Robinson +20000
97515 Elijah Mitchell +20000
97517 Harold Landry +20000
97516 Shaquil Barrett +20000
97513 Sterling Shepard +20000
97510 JC Jackson +25000
97518 JD Mckissic +25000
97505 Rashan Gary +25000
97502 Rashod Bateman +30000

these odds are jacked up...mine are totally different.lol
I see Wilson @up to +2500.
I'm not saying mine are right...

Odds to Win NFL CPOY

Player	Odds to Win NFL CPOY
Damar Hamlin	-285
Tua Tagovailoa	+2000
Russell Wilson	+2000
Lamar Jackson	+2500
Breece Hall	+2500
John Metchie III	+2800
Cooper Kupp	+3000
Trey Lance	+3500
Calvin Ridley	+3500
Matthew Stafford	+4000
Odell Beckham Jr	+4500
Sam Darnold	+4500
Dameon Pierce	+5000
Chase Young	+5000
D’Andre Swift	+5000
Jonathan Taylor	+5000
Derek Carr	+5000
JK Dobbins	+5000
Mike Williams	+5500
Jimmy Garoppolo	+6000

jamerx · Sep 3, 2023

I thought comeback player had to do with your performance on the field from one year to the next. Not from coming back from the dead (literally).

Bozzie · Sep 3, 2023

CHOPTALK said:
I think all Hamlin needs to do is play at least 1 play in the regular season .

This has nothing to do with how good or bad he is .
Nobody is saying he’s better then Tua or Calvin Ridley .

That’s not the point .
The point is he is coming back from the dead and playing again .

That’s all he needs to do .
Don’t matter how many tackles he makes or INTs he gets .

If it was about performance on the field he would not even be a candidate .

Good points ... despite the criteria for voting.

Avocado33 · Sep 3, 2023

Greenbacks said:
Sam Darnold is a back up.
He shouldn't be +1200

Was just gonna say

wtf is Darnold doing there lol

PatsFan1283 · Sep 3, 2023

Alex Smith did more than Hamlin but really didn’t do a whole lot in the year he won, he just came back from a life threatening injury and nearly having his leg amputated

Avocado33 · Sep 3, 2023

jamerx said:
I thought comeback player had to do with your performance on the field from one year to the next. Not from coming back from the dead (literally).

Hamlin deserves it if he truly survived the deadly Covid vaccine

Avocado33 · Sep 3, 2023

Maybe if Jimmy leads Raiders to a wild card spot he could get it

CHOPTALK · Sep 3, 2023

Avocado33 said:
Was just gonna say

wtf is Darnold doing there lol

In a normal year where you don’t have a player who came back from the dead I could see a path for Darnold .
It would require Purdy getting injured early in the year but it could happen

The former 3rd pick of the draft been a bust everywhere he goes takes over for an injured Purdy in week 3 and SF goes 14-3

That would be his path in a normal year

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