Curt Schilling has been terminated by ESPN

[Enfuego]

I have read this entire thread and I doubt that anyone has actually read the law in North Carolina. Lets start out with the controversy over Schilling. ESPN and its parent Disney, are extremely pro gay rights so Schilling struck a nerve. ESPN is bleeding money and the last thing anyone wants today is to have a controversy over gay rights. ESPN was within its rights to terminate him over this but should have merely suspended him over the comments. Schilling has free speech rights, but, unfortunately, free speech is only allowed if it is within the agenda of Disney. The real problem here is political correctness. I mentioned Cuba earlier in this thread. All of the same people that are attacking and boycotting the State of North Carolina can't wait to either go to Cuba or if they are performers to play in Cuba.

It is the same double standard that exists with the Palestinian issue. Israel 100% supports gay rights. If the Palestinians even think you are gay, you will be put to death. Not a word from the left on this.

What the LGBT lobby does and which these types of laws seek to prevent, are the filings of lawsuits to further expand LGBT rights beyond any laws that are currently in effect. For example and I mentioned this earlier, do you think a priest/minister/rabbi/imam should be required to perform a same sex marriage if they are opposed to doing it? Your answer should be of course they should not be required to perform such a marriage. However, some people think they should and want to force that agenda on everyone. Even if a lawsuit against the minister were to fail, the next step would be to lobby the IRS to revoke their tax exempt status.

Just because you agree with the North Carolina law doesn't make you a bigot and as usual, free speech and free comment is met with attacks and insults.

It's not just Disney. Any company has the right to terminate you if you make comments that disparage the company in any way within the public domain. Schilling knew better and didn't care.

 

[PatsFan1283]

If Schilling had a thoughtful response on the matter then I highly doubt he would've been fired. Instead he had a meme with some guy that doesn't look like 99% of TS people. He got fired for lack of professionalism. And even if you think Disney/ESPN have liberal leanings, Schilling knows that going in. He has the ability to censor his behavior and have a more thoughtful response if this is really an issue that matters a lot to him. Give him some credit, he is not a little kid. He can articulate himself like a big boy. It's not always the message being delivered, but how it is delivered.

He was pulled off the LLWS coverage for posting a meme that compared Muslims to Nazis. This isn't his first go round.

Chris Broussard has made comments before denouncing the gay lifestyle, he still works at ESPN, why didn't he strike a nerve?

 

[Enfuego]

Some might say I've had a weak schedule. Acebb, Sheriff Joe and Dave007.....not exactly Ali,Marciano,and Tyson.

You still haven't really addressed the main issue. Why do you consider a person a "bigot" or "intolerant" if they don't agree with this NC law?

 

[Enfuego]

If Schilling had a thoughtful response on the matter then I highly doubt he would've been fired. Instead he had a meme with some guy that doesn't look like 99% of TS people. He got fired for lack of professionalism. And even if you think Disney/ESPN have liberal leanings, Schilling knows that going in. He has the ability to censor his behavior and have a more thoughtful response if this is really an issue that matters a lot to him. Give him some credit, he is not a little kid. He can articulate himself like a big boy.

Chris Broussard has made comments before denouncing the gay lifestyle, he still works at ESPN, why didn't he strike a nerve?

Exactly. Say whatever but just be very conservative and if in doubt, ask someone what they think before you do it or just don't hit send.

In my line of profession, I can't say anything degrading our POTUS. Just can't do it. If I do, I face punishment.

It is what it is.

 

[vitterd]

You still haven't really addressed the main issue. Why do you consider a person a "bigot" or "intolerant" if they don't agree with this NC law?

Did you see me use those words? I think they are certainly misguided and ignorant. I really don't think they understand that a transgender isn't trying to watch your wife or kid take a dump. I happen to think conservatives are mostly uninformed on a lot of social issues. Just my opinion.

Hope that answers the question.

 

[Enfuego]

Did you see me use those words? I think they are certainly misguided and ignorant. I really don't think they understand that a transgender isn't trying to watch your wife or kid take a dump. I happen to think conservatives are mostly uninformed on a lot of social issues. Just my opinion.

Hope that answers the question.

You just aren't getting it. It doesn't have to be a transgender person taking advantage of an advantageous situation. It's not about transgenders specifically.

 

[vitterd]

You just aren't getting it. It doesn't have to be a transgender person taking advantage of an advantageous situation. It's not about transgenders specifically.

That's what the discussion here has been about and that is what I've been answering. We are talking specifically about the Schilling meme. There is another thread about the specific law and I'm not sure I've commented in there. Could be wrong though

 

[ML Dog]

You keep digging yourself deeper.

Striking someone one in a dress is gonna be more harmful to a child. It's not about being a coward, it's about being an adult....if my child is in danger....I will protect them....someone pissing in a stall next to them isn't putting them in danger. Being a parent and adult isn't about punching a tranny....it's about showing them proper behavior.

I certainly hope you don't have children because your way of thinking will continue the cycle of ignorance

if you're gonna continue to attack me....expect to keep getting attacked back.

Ps.....how many previous names do you have here?

There will be occasions when a little girl is not heard because the monster immediately crushes her skull.

Google Necrophilia or whatever that word is for the fetish of having sex with sleeping females.


You have no clue where you even are.



You are so fucking stupid that you're stupidity actually makes you dangerous.


You are the PERFECT example, illustration of why we don't just shoot pedophiles in the head immediately.



Because people so stupid such as yourself cannot comprehend the actual severity of the threat.


You are a True Fucking Coward.

 

[vitterd]

There will be occasions when a little girl is not heard because the monster immediately crushes her skull.

Google Necrophilia or whatever that word is for the fetish of having sex with sleeping females.


You have no clue where you even are.



You are so fucking stupid that you're stupidity actually makes you dangerous.


You are the PERFECT example, illustration of why we don't just shoot pedophiles in the head immediately.



Because people so stupid such as yourself cannot comprehend the actual severity of the threat.


You are a True Fucking Coward.

You are comparing transgenders to pedophiles. You are all over the map. You really need to stay down on the mat. Regroup and log in under one of your other handles. The result will still be same but it might help you start over.

"the severity of the threat". Lol....you really can't invent this type of stupidity.

 

[mountain]

You are comparing transgenders to pedophiles. You are all over the map. You really need to stay down on the mat. Regroup and log in under one of your other handles. The result will still be same but it might help you start over.

"the severity of the threat". Lol....you really can't invent this type of stupidity.

Invite him to a Phils game and work it out

 

[vitterd]

Invite him to a Phils game and work it out

Nah....only ace and Joe.....although they can pick him up....give them group therapy.

 

[ML Dog]

You are comparing transgenders to pedophiles. You are all over the map. You really need to stay down on the mat. Regroup and log in under one of your other handles. The result will still be same but it might help you start over.

"the severity of the threat". Lol....you really can't invent this type of stupidity.

The only "Map" is that which displays a course that leads the young people of this world to the Safest circumstance.

Allowing humans that have penises into the bathroom with them, again....DOORS THAT CAN BE BARRED, some that can even be LOCKED upon entry

is not a good idea.

Bottom Line, End of Debate.

You come back at me with anything "in response" to that and you only prove you are a Troll

who does not in fact believe anything you espouse but a lonely old isolated alone man who provokes debate cuz you have no other Life.

So Google STFU and GTFO.

 

[barman]

Uh, that's my opinion. I havent taken a survey but it wouldn't be an issue to the women in my life. I'm suspecting more old men care about this than women.

Not often I am on same page w Vit, but I too do not know any women or girls in my life who would be at all concerned were they to know a transgender was using a restroom at same time as they.

It's as absurd as any of them being unduly concerned when two women get legally married.

Will also echo Vit's earlier post wherein he accurately notes that younger Americans are smarter than the generations older than them. Therefore we can be assured that increasing levels of sensible social progress will be seen, especially when we as a society give less concern to the irrational fears of the Olds.

 

[Dafinch]

Nobody stopped him from expressing himself.

We all have choices to make in life.

Do you wanna be gainfully employed by the worldwide leader in sports or post memes on facebook? Baseball tonight is a pretty cushy gig, the tradeoff for that is you have to conduct yourself like an adult out of work. Your held to a higher standard.

He wasn't fired for his views, he was fired for his lack of professionalism.

Memes like that don't advance discussion on serious subject matter.

Exactamundo...Bowling^&%:thumbsup2:

 

[metro]

dafinch.. all of pats posts are sharp.. i wanted to hate this guy because i hate patriots and their fans.. but couldn't this dude is like an encyclopedia about the ways of the world.. he even humbles himself to humor me with my oj nonsense etc

 

[Enfuego]

Not often I am on same page w Vit, but I too do not know any women or girls in my life who would be at all concerned were they to know a transgender was using a restroom at same time as they.

It's as absurd as any of them being unduly concerned when two women get legally married.

Will also echo Vit's earlier post wherein he accurately notes that younger Americans are smarter than the generations older than them. Therefore we can be assured that increasing levels of sensible social progress will be seen, especially when we as a society give less concern to the irrational fears of the Olds.

Again, you guys are focused on the word "transgender." That's not the concern. The concern is the safety factor due to the potential ability of any man walking in a women's bathroom to potential do harm.

 

[vitterd]

The only "Map" is that which displays a course that leads the young people of this world to the Safest circumstance.

Allowing humans that have penises into the bathroom with them, again....DOORS THAT CAN BE BARRED, some that can even be LOCKED upon entry

is not a good idea.

Bottom Line, End of Debate.

You come back at me with anything "in response" to that and you only prove you are a Troll

who does not in fact believe anything you espouse but a lonely old isolated alone man who provokes debate cuz you have no other Life.

So Google STFU and GTFO.

Even your insults are boring.

"Come back with anything in response to that and you only prove you are a troll". What?? I've been battering you around for hours.....you look like Balboa at the end of Rocky 1.

Your pics, your name calling just cements your massive defeat. Go join Acebb, sheriff Joe and the many other victims of my right hook. After you're done trying to figure out why there is a vitterd stamp across your forehead.....go save the children......they will all need therapy from seeing feet in the stall next to them.

 

[barman]

It would be very disturbing to a young girl or even grown woman to hear somebody standing in the stall pissing. That is a fact argue all you want

Trans women do not stand and pee....And in closed stalls, the sound of urination can be on all sides. Any female (or male) truly disturbed by the sound of urination in a neighboring stall is likely in neex of mental counsel

 

[PatsFan1283]

Trans women do not stand and pee....And in closed stalls, the sound of urination can be on all sides. Any female (or male) truly disturbed by the sound of urination in a neighboring stall is likely in neex of mental counsel

Is that legit?

How would you know?

 

[barman]

Caitlyn Jenner likes women and she is leering at your wife in the bathroom. You think thats cool?
Here you are fighting for people who are in your words "different:" so you and your bleeding heart should open to everyone yet you insult republicans? Hypocrite

My wife is in a retail sales job with a very busy traffic flow.

Men - and some women - leer at her daily.

She somehow finds a way to hang in there without emotional collapse. Maybe your own wife is in need of a few pointers regarding how to not GAF what other people think of her