Considering purchasing a gun. I'm a complete novice. Need input.

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I agree...most people don't need a gun. I pick up and deposit decent sums of money and would not even think about it without a firearm. People are wasting money if they buy a gun and lock it away.....by the time you realize what is happening it is likely too late.

Might as well keep a machete or cheap sword under the bed.

What's a decent sum of money?
 

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I actually agree with this for the most part which is why I dont yet have a gun.

I guess my thinking is what is the harm in taking a class and learning proper gun safety then putting the gun in a locked case in my nightstand just in case? In a perfect world (and most likely), I would never touch the gun again.

No harm at all. Wish a lot more people took gun safety classes. For me (for me only), with a ton of kids around the house, I just see more bad things that could come from owning one than not. I'd rather not deal with it as long as I don't fear for my safety.
 

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my gun is ready 24/7 and is out of any childs reach...not hard to do

Point being, you're not in a position to tell me I "need more gun smarts." Im sure more gun safety experts would agree with my position than yours.

Find another thread to troll.
 

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No harm at all. Wish a lot more people took gun safety classes. For me (for me only), with a ton of kids around the house, I just see more bad things that could come from owning one than not. I'd rather not deal with it as long as I don't fear for my safety.

Agree. Tough choice for me for the exact same reason.
 

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Point being, you're not in a position to tell me I "need more gun smarts." Im sure more gun safety experts would agree with my position than yours.

Find another thread to troll.

I may know a bit more than you about firearms...considering i shot in the Pan Am games and instructed local police departments in firearms safety....but carry on.

Who are these gun safety experts you speak of??? People who are anti-gun.?
 

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I may know a bit more than you about firearms...considering i shot in the Pan Am games and instructed local police departments in firearms safety....but carry on.

Who are these gun safety experts you speak of??? People who are anti-gun.?

Ha. You really are clueless. So there are experts out there who recommend having the safety turned off "AT ALL TIMES"?

Makes you wonder why they even put them on the gun huh?
 

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Guess i will stay clueless...have a good night.
 
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I agree...most people don't need a gun. I pick up and deposit decent sums of money and would not even think about it without a firearm. People are wasting money if they buy a gun and lock it away.....by the time you realize what is happening it is likely too late.

Might as well keep a machete or cheap sword under the bed.

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I keep mine under my desk glued with the help of a magnet, slide and glide... wont take it outside unless I have to go to a risky area or do risky business
 

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I keep mine under my desk glued with the help of a magnet, slide and glide... wont take it outside unless I have to go to a risky area or do risky business

Everyone in my household of age know exactly where it's at and how to use it.
 

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First, I just have to say these people saying "why do you need a gun if you live in a safe neighborhood" really aren't talking sense. This guy lived in one of the "safest" neighborhoods in America and got the pleasure of watching his wife and oldest daughter be raped before they (and his other daughter) were murdered in a home invasion. So you can totally discount what those people are saying (and don't listen to the "get a shotgun" comments).

Regarding the topic of which firearm to choose. Personally, I carry a Sig P220 .45. I would not suggest you purchase or carry anything other than a .38 .40 or .45 caliber. That is just my personal preference thinking that if you ever need to pull (if you pull you fire) then you want to put down the threat.

The considerations to keep in mind are: reliability, accuracy, ease of operation (shootability), carryability and affordability. You need to find a balance among those things to feel confident and comfortable if you do choose to carry.

So you may want to consider a Sig P239 (.357 or .40) or a much less expensive alternative S&W J-Frame .38 or a Kahr MK9.

Your first step should be to go to a gun shop and handle some of these weapons and ask questions of the staff. You need to see what fits your hands and get comfortable with the weight and feel of a pistol.

Finally, there is no harm in going through the process of getting the CCW but never carrying.
 

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If you can get a concealed carry permit that's Great .. otherwise the gun MUST be in a Lock Box at home and in your Car ( Trunk ) and..... wait for it

UNLOADED

Not sure if different States have different Laws ... guess they do... but I believe this is the case in the U.S overall

Yes. Generally speaking, you want to have the pistol unloaded and compartmentalized (in the console, glove box, or gun case) and any magazines or ammunition in a separate area of the vehicle. In a gun bag in the trunk or in a separate compartment from the firearm. This is the best approach if you do not have a CCW.
 

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Yes. Generally speaking, you want to have the pistol unloaded and compartmentalized (in the console, glove box, or gun case) and any magazines or ammunition in a separate area of the vehicle. In a gun bag in the trunk or in a separate compartment from the firearm. This is the best approach if you do not have a CCW.

Correction: If you do not have a CCW, the only instances where you are permitted to transport a firearm in your vehicle would be if you are going to or from a gun shop or to or from a gun range.
It would be best to have the firearm in your car in a gun case (or safe) and any ammunition in a gun bag in the trunk. If you are caught at Target or the grocery store with a gun in your trunk, for example, you are asking for trouble.
 

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First, I just have to say these people saying "why do you need a gun if you live in a safe neighborhood" really aren't talking sense. This guy lived in one of the "safest" neighborhoods in America and got the pleasure of watching his wife and oldest daughter be raped before they (and his other daughter) were murdered in a home invasion. So you can totally discount what those people are saying (and don't listen to the "get a shotgun" comments).

Regarding the topic of which firearm to choose. Personally, I carry a Sig P220 .45. I would not suggest you purchase or carry anything other than a .38 .40 or .45 caliber. That is just my personal preference thinking that if you ever need to pull (if you pull you fire) then you want to put down the threat.

The considerations to keep in mind are: reliability, accuracy, ease of operation (shootability), carryability and affordability. You need to find a balance among those things to feel confident and comfortable if you do choose to carry.

So you may want to consider a Sig P239 (.357 or .40) or a much less expensive alternative S&W J-Frame .38 or a Kahr MK9.

Your first step should be to go to a gun shop and handle some of these weapons and ask questions of the staff. You need to see what fits your hands and get comfortable with the weight and feel of a pistol.

Finally, there is no harm in going through the process of getting the CCW but never carrying.

I see your point ACEBB but let me counter with random home invasions of stranger on stranger where murder does occur is extremely rare. It does happen yes, but it's not commonplace.

I guess I just don't live in the "what if" world when it comes to thinking about being murdered. For you guys that do, no worries. It's your right.
 

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Yes. Generally speaking, you want to have the pistol unloaded and compartmentalized (in the console, glove box, or gun case) and any magazines or ammunition in a separate area of the vehicle. In a gun bag in the trunk or in a separate compartment from the firearm. This is the best approach if you do not have a CCW.

What is the best practice for carrying a weapon in your car if you DO have your concealed carry permit?
 

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What is the best practice for carrying a weapon in your car if you DO have your concealed carry permit?

I typically have my weapon in a carry holster loaded but not chambered in the center console. Remember, the firearm can not be visible and I would not suggest putting it under a car seat or in the door for when you have to open it. I have a full-sized truck so the glove box is too far away. Put it somewhere where you can get to it quickly but that it is stable. I guess it is possible to wear it holstered on a hip but wearing a seat belt is problematic.
 

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I see your point ACEBB but let me counter with random home invasions of stranger on stranger where murder does occur is extremely rare. It does happen yes, but it's not commonplace.

I guess I just don't live in the "what if" world when it comes to thinking about being murdered. For you guys that do, no worries. It's your right.

There is a robbery (defined as using force or the threat of force and/or by putting the victim in fear) every 1.5 minutes in America. There is a home burglarized every 9 minutes in America and 59% of those are via forced entry.

I think you need to revisit some of your assumptions. This isn't "what if" at all.
 

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There is a robbery (defined as using force or the threat of force and/or by putting the victim in fear) every 1.5 minutes in America. There is a home burglarized every 9 minutes in America and 59% of those are via forced entry.

I think you need to revisit some of your assumptions. This isn't "what if" at all.

I'm saying simply a home invasion resulting in a murder. Robbery could be on the street walking your dog and of course those statistics are largely geared toward the inner city. If you live in the suburbs, the statistics, I assume, change drastically.
 

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