You no doubt know more than me about all this stuff. But anyone can make the case I am making. Boxing has back alley deals just like UFC has had back alley deals. Just because it doesn't happen every event doesn't mean anything. Are they going to fix every boxing match? Of course not. My issue with it is how UFC fronts like they are top of the chain. I don't care about where it originated from. Boxing originated from bare knuckel boxing they were doing that shit BC. Real talk. When heads didn't have a sword they would fight. Not kick each other. Boxing is human nature. The greats that have done it are legends of all sports because they deserve to be legends. The ufc guys are legends in their own sport. I respect them for their craft. But lets not act like their craft is more important or more difficult than boxing. That is where UFC begins to step on some toes IMO. Just keep it in your own lane. Why do you have to call out Mayweather to begin with? Because people know that is the true pinnacle of fighting.
The MMA "craft" is way more difficult to achieve than boxing. You have to know at least 3 styles to be fully effective. That's a fact. I just mentioned Mayweather for reference bc that's what most people do, but sorry, he's not the greatest and never will be in my mind, nor anyone's that I know of that really knows how to fight.
Fine, I will take Amir Khan and Canelo down too in a fight. They will pick me apart in boxing only. If you wanna go to "stand up only" and not pure boxing, I like my chances more bc I can kick for distance and elbow in the clinch. However, they would still probably win bc I spend more time worrying about wrestling and BJJ now bc it's way more effective for daily life and self defense, and takes way more work to conquer.
Are you serious? You don't think their craft is more difficult/important, protecting your face and dodge and weaving vs a fight til you are tapping out because you can't breathe in the octogon? LMAO
Boxing WAS the true pinnacle before UFC came in the game...
Jon bones jones would merk Mayweather in a UFC match....Mayweather would be climbing up the fencing lol
Mayweather would "win" in a fight in a boxing match but I don't see him knocking Jonny out...Even if he does it doesn't replicate what real shit would go on if it was a fight to the death...or even a fight on the streets...
UFC is badass fighting
Boxing is a "sport"
I agree, but I'll take a guy with ground game in a street fight all day, everyday...
Mayweather isn't the greatest. I agree. But the craft I disagree on. The footwork in boxing and angles have to be so damn precise or you will be knocked out. In UFC you always have a chance if you can go to the ground. You don't have to be able to throw hands all you have to be able to do is tackle someone and lay on top of them or choke them to death. Brock Lesnar is the perfect example of this. What type of craft did he need to know to become champion? The World Wrestling Federation "craft"? Put him in a boxing match against some heavyweights and see what happens LOL!!!! That's another thing. It takes just about nothing to get a title shot in the UFC. Rhonda Rousey coming off a loss will get a title shot probably first time back lol
Tackle someone?!? Really...it's called shooting for a take down, or sprawling to defend. It is a craft in itself. Takes way more energy to pull off than straight boxing as said before as well.
I will agree with you there. He should've used RDA.
Lol my bad. I was sounding ignorant with that one. But you get my ignorance. Brock Lesnar all he did was go for take downs and then sit on you. To me that is not craft. A big heavyweight in boxing trying to use his hands and feet requires wayyyyyyy MOREEEEEEE skill than shooting for a take down then sitting on you because you are bigger and stronger. It's the truth.
Word. Mike Tyson scares me!! I would fight Mayweather, I wouldn't have been able to fight Tyson back in the day for shitting my pants on the way to the ring.
Maybe it does, but it is the craft that is separating the best from the best in MMA. Main thing is, don't get hit or taken down, and you should be good. Lol
Never said he was the best fighter ever just the biggest star, and he is, and still is. I was on Aldo the last fight and even said it was a fluke win as Aldo would beat him 95% of the time.
